929:. Obviously, a state cannot be both sovereign and be ruled by a foreign individual appointed by foreign sovereigns. Check out that link: Mr. Inzko can overturn any decision made by anyone or any office in the country, including Constitutional Court, Presidency and Parliament. He doesn't have to say "The country I rule is not sovereign", it's obvious from the existence of his office. I am not making any conclusion of or on my own as there is nothing to analyze and thus nothing to synthesize either. Those are simply the facts of the matter, and common knowledge. Your demanding links to third-party sources to "tell" you the obvious is ridiculous. Did you read other working link:
905:- they are useful for many kinds of writing, but Knowledge (XXG) can't use them. You really do need confirmation from reliable sources that explicitly state that Bosnia-Herzovinia is not a sovereign nation, and those need to be better, more reliable sources than the sources that say that it is. Remember, your goal is not to score a point in a political argument or to support your own point of view on the subject, but to accurately represent what the best available sources currently say. -
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579:) with unlimited powers (above Parliament, above Presidency, above Constitutional Court), who is appointed by the Peace Implementation Council (PIC). PIC is a body composed of envoys of foreign sovereigns to Bosnia-Herzegovina which is therefore a dominion where foreign sovereigns exercise shared sovereignty. So for instance, as I have been pointing out but got blocked for doing so, Bosnia-Herzegovina is not a sovereign nation because it does not fulfill all the criteria:
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Those are two edits, not three. Thanks for making my point. It's also clear it is you who has political agenda here. It all started with mine simply stating that a colony (a country under a foreign governor) cannot be a sovereign state at the same time. Look where your conspiracy theories have taken
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You made yourself clear, but you didn't make yourself correct. You were first blocked for edit warring on 29 June. When that block ended, you continued the exact same edit warring on June 30, and were blocked a second time, for 48 hours. When you started editing again on July 3, you continued edit
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Okay, so where did the governor say, "Bosnia-Herzogovina is not a sovereign nation?" I looked at the link you provided, but it was a dead link. Can you link to confirmation that he made that statement - maybe a newspaper article about it, or the original place the statement was published? That
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Perhaps I didn't make myself clear so here it is again: I was already blocked twice for editing the page twice. This (two-weeks) block is based on someone reporting me again for an edit that I was already blocked for. Can you show a regulation that enables you to block someone twice for the same
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583:. It has been a dominion since Turkey occupied it and killed its king Stjepan Tomašević. Now, one can pretend it's not a dominion, and call it all sorts of fancy names, but that still doesn't change the facts. And facts are what serious encyclopedias should be all about.
933:? Are you insisting that "independent sources" must call the sky blue too? Or are you 10? To me, it's those who included this country in the list of sovereign states, who clearly do have own political agenda in this. Don't blame the messenger, I just tell how it is.
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Key phrases: "We mean business. Enjoy the next two weeks. Could get real hot." and "I am here for fun only. I know you and your buddies hate truth and justice." I just can't think of anything else those phrases can possibly mean.
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have a foreign governor at the same time. It simply makes no sense. Anyone who claims the opposite has either a mental problem or a political agenda. Logics, anyone? Hopefully the sky is still blue.
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I can tell already how your game is played. However, sovereignty is a dead serious business. And we mean business. Enjoy the next two weeks. Could get real hot.
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