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like when an accusation become a conviction. One of these sources mentions explicitly that "we are intellectually entitled to believe a conspiracy theory depending on its evidence". Since you're asking me for my opinion I'd say if a conspiracy theory has been properly investigated and its evidence put before a court of law (where both processes are established as neutral and independent), we can then objectively decide if there is a conspiracy or not. The problem is, many conspiracy theories have not been put through this process, so no-one (me or you or anyone else on wikipedia) can make generalised value judgements on all conspiracy theories and their lack of evidence. It's a similar epistemic idea to "theory" in general - a theory isn't something with a lack of evidence, it's just something which may or may fit reality and be accepted as truth, depending on properly judged evidence.

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consensus. The primary difference between what you've done already at DRN and what would happen at MEDCOM is that you'll have a more experienced mediator — which is not at all intended to imply that the DRN volunteer was inept or did a poor job, it's just the nature of the difference between the two forums — and there will be no time limit on how long the mediation can take (and, indeed, formal mediations often continue for several months). But you each have to consider whether or not your position or that of the others is so entrenched that there is little or no chance of you changing your mind or compromising so that the three of you can come to consensus. If that is the case, then before refiling at MEDCOM you might want to consider, if you've not tried it already, a

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Silence", by Yorkshire Television ; the fact that Bonacci won civil damages from King after the district court judge heard corroborating testimony, where he decided on a $ 1 million amount; a viewer phone-in poll by Omaha television station KETV channel 7 which showed a 10-1 viewer dissatisfaction of the grand jury’s report, with over 3000 responses; Episode 5 of the podcast Sword and Scale . Is there any possibility that any of this material could be added to the article? Autonova (talk) 23:08, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

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how much work went into figuring out what the proposals should be.) If you have two "camps" of editors (as seems to be the case here), the best outcome would be to have an A version that one camp is good with, a B version the other camp is good with, and then put that up for an RfC; that way, after the RfC is over, it will be clear which version has consensus, and there won't be any further need to discuss that particular passage.

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Aside from the issue of how best to form the RfC, I wanted to ask you this: what about the notion that once a conspiracy theory has credible evidence, nobody refers to it as a "conspiracy theory" anymore. E.g., it's a "conspiracy theory" until someone gets criminally charged, and then it becomes just

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Wow that was a lot to say! Anyway, you might want to post suggested language on the article talk page before doing the formal RfC, just to see if there is at least a consensus on what the A/B/C/whatever versions should be. (At that Macedonian RfC I linked to above, take a look at the talk page to see

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A conspiracy theory is the fear of a nonexistent conspiracy or the unnecessary assumption of conspiracy when other explanations are more probable. The absence of proof of the conspiracy, and evidence showing it to be false, is interpreted by believers as evidence of its truth, thus insulating it from

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Hi. I don’t think that the RfC you posted was worded as good as it could be. Would you mind reverting yourself and give me like a half hour to post some more detailed suggestions on your talk page? I just don’t think the way it’s worded will get a usable outcome, whereas there are better ways to word

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I notice you are engaged in a discussion at the Ocarina of Time article regarding whether or not the claim that it is the "greatest video game of all time" is synthesis. I have dealt with this issue in the past, and I believe I know why the article has remained as it has for so long. There was an old

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I suspect Sir Rubin has probably stopped looking for the article he "thought" he recalled might support "reverse whatever" now that such a finding would actually show flaws in the governments analysis (not in Niels, etc). But if he finds "it", it might bring another editor more toward common ground.

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Autonova, thank you for speaking out about the extreme bias in this article. Like the OJ Simpson trial, this court case was and is a huge controversy, despite how the juries decided. This article should discuss both sides, there are educated opinions on the side of the victim testimonies that aren't

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The author of this article states the case of Paul A. Bonacci v. Lawrence E. King was a hoax when in fact Paul A. Bonacci was awarded 1 million dollars which is not stated on this page about this trial. The sensitive subject of the government trying to cover up government pedophilia is reintroduced

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Another example is the idea that the government is conspiring with Big Pharma to cover up evidence that vaccines cause autism. That will also never be tried, because there is a robust scientific consensus from studies around the globe that vaccines are not associated with autism at all, let alone as

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I ended up just making a really small change to wording; I saw that the article has been regarded as too long in the past so didn't want to add too much. I might create a few new pictures for the article if I get a decent scenario in campaign. If i have a few days free, I might see if anyone has any

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That's terribly conscientious of you! That's a good point - I didn't realise being next to a wall also had an impact. Maybe something like "whether the unit holds an advantageous position on the battlefield relative to the enemy"? I'd love to collaborate on that section some more but I've got a load

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Thanks for the clarification, which on my second reading was what I understood. Yes, I have read a few times that NIST adjusted its metrics and assumptions in its conceptual model until it achieved a certain result. And further, it is said that FEMA's assumptions are quite different, not in line.

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As you can see, both of my suggestions are tiny incremental changes, which in my opinion increases the chances of gaining consensus. If neither you nor the other editors like it, there is no reason to use my suggested language. But if you are OK with it, then it might be worthwhile to suggest it on

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Just saw your edit of my edit! I was trying to indicate that there are multiple ways in which position can affect morale (for example, flanking an enemy is more effective on morale than being higher up, being 'next to but on the other side of a wall' has an effect that is less pronounced than being

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that stated that simple acts of logic were not considered synthesis. The argument at the Ocarina of Time article presumably would have been that since it is clear that many critics not it as one of the greatest games ever, it is clearly "widely recognized" as such. Since then this footnote has been

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The essential difference is not that a court has ruled, but that good faith efforts to investigate the claims, have shown them to be false. Even when this is not explicitly stated in the sources, it is always the elephant in the room, and the discussions of truth and falsity in the sources make no

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Initially my argument was based solely on the dictionary definition which makes no mention of evidence - however after delving a bit deeper I've found sources from political scientists and philosophers where it can be thought of in epistemic terms - when a conspiracy theory becomes a conspiracy is

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likes A, then there's no sense in including it; but if the people who disagree with you prefer A over B (and only changed A to B to satisfy your concerns essentially), then there may be no reason to include B in the RfC. It may be worth asking the editors who disagree with you, on the article talk

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The major problem with the first draft RfC language was that "along the lines of" was just too vague to be actionable; it's open to interpretation. After the RfC closed, there would have been an argument about whether this language or that language is "along the lines of" the language in the RfC.

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In this article, there is omission of material from: a book by a journlist who investigated the case for 9 years ; an article in a reliable news outlet endorsing the book ; a book by a state senator who was an attourney in the case ; a documentary, Who Took Johnny ; a documentary, "Conspiracy of

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without any final consensus being reached and formal mediation through the Mediation Committee can only do the same kind of thing. Formal mediation is not a court or tribunal which will declare one side right and the other wrong. All it can do is to try to help to get the three of you to come to

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It doesn't require a court of law. Consider the conspiracy theory that posits 9/11 was an inside job. That was investigated by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States and found to be baseless. The individual claims of Truthers will never be tested in court, not least

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of Dr90s, since your only contributions to Knowledge (XXG) have been reverts identical to those made by Haipa Dragoon, who was proven to be a sock puppet. A sock puppet, if you don't know, is a name for an alternate account set up by an individual who has been blocked from Knowledge (XXG).

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No problem. You're handling this situation well. So I'm going to need like 24hrs to figure out my language, and then I'll post on the talk page proposing the current one, yours, Slaters, and mine, and we can see at that point if anyone has any additions or changes before going live.

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the talk page, and see if that version gains consensus there, which will eliminate the need for an RfC altogether. I doubt that is the case, though, because I assume if editors liked my edit, they would have kept it :-) So I think you probably need a better C than either of mine.

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Great–thanks–good move. You've done a good job of going through the dispute resolution process with this by the way; and I hope you're understanding why various editors are suggesting RfC rather than dispute resolution–it's all about how many voices are in the conversation.

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a "conspiracy", meaning that the phrase "conspiracy theory" connotes a lack of evidence, and the phrase "conspiracy" connotes the existence of evidence. I'm not sure how I feel (or what RSes say) about that argument, but would be interested in your thoughts on the matter.

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by the author trying to cover up all facts of this case. Anew author of this page is urgently needed, someone with above average journaling and referencing skills is needed for this most sensitive subject. This is a controversy and should have references to this fact."

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I'm new to editing in Knowledge (XXG)...is there anything helpful I can do to add myself to the list of people asserting that the current editor is blocking relevant edits? Does that help at all? Wtf I never realized Knowledge (XXG) would allow such censorship!

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So I think the best way to move forward is to come up with some good A/B language and propose it specifically. For this, you may want to have a discussion on the talk page, just about what the A/B language should be, before you post the actual RfC.

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Also, the C version, whatever it is, will probably need to be cited for the RfC, or editors will reject it for that reason alone. (Even though the lead doesn't usually need to be cited, it does in contentious situations, and this is one of them.)

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Hi Autonova, just wanted to add a note of encouragement to you regarding the conspiracy theory RfC. I like how closely you've followed the sources (dictionaries and otherwise) throughout. Always a good approach when the topic is controversial.

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whether or not it is too late for him/her to accept at this point. It is, but the case can be refiled. If you choose to do that, please file it as "Liverpool F.C.–Manchester United F.C. rivalry Honours Count sources 2" (notice the 2 at the end).

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I also reminded Dissident about 3R, just to make sure you know I didn't single you out. :) There's no deadline or rush remember, let people discuss for a bit. The article is certainly not in any sort of damaged state at this time. --

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Hi there, I reverted that addition, since one case of advantageous traits would be ones that increased sexual attractiveness, even if these decreased lifespan (think of the peacock's tail). This is covered in the article on

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Will do. Will also check out citation bundling. I don't seem to have any chance of being able to make any decisions or be agreed with about anything, so I think it'll be up to you when we go live with it.

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page, whether they think A, B, or both, should be included in an RfC. The simpler the better, so if you can get "your opposition", as it were, to agree to one version, that would help simplify the RfC.

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Dissident did not direct me to his reply so I didn't realise a talk dialogue was started. Also, Dissident broke the three edit rule before me. Thank you for directing me to the talk page.

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Thank you for your actions against the biased author of Franklin child prostitution ring allegations. I have created a dispute and added your name among others which you can read here.

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I'm not sure which should be the "A" version, or if perhaps both should be presented, so that would be "A" and "B", and then you'd (I presume) want to propose a third "C" version. If

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higher up). Can you think of a way of saying both of those things in a relatively concise way? I'm messaging you because I don't want to tread on your toes without consulting first!

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Please stop making this edit while the content is discussed. There has been a talk page section open for two years on this topic and Dissident has been replying to you there. Per

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Thank you very much for this incredibly helpful input, this is the first time I've been involved with an RfC. Much appreciated, I'll have a think about the language to use now.

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There is no NPOV dispute, you just clearly don't understand the meaning of words. If you restore the tag, I will ask that an admin block you from editing for disruption.

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From what I've seen, the most successful RfCs are generally framed in a way such that after the RfC closed, someone could make a specific edit with the edit summary "per

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NRen was actually talking to me (Autonova) about NIST's report, which, as I've heard, altered the initial conditions of its models in order to produce a collapse.

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All these examples and advice comes from recent RfCs I've been involved with; by no means am I an expert on the subject or anything, but I hope this helps!

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I'm not sure about the language of the "C" version; that's really up to you. With regard to the old status quo A version, I can think of these two changes:

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A simple compromise presents itself, however. What about simply altering the wording from "greatest video games of all time" to "best game ever made" per

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and so doesn't meet the quality of independent and neutral. And some lawyers do think the level of evidence is strong enough to be taken to court:

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As I mentioned above, the process needs to be independent and neutral. The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States had a

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LOL, yeah I think you're right. What do you think if I posted the RfC instead of you? I think it'll reduce the "noise" once the RfC goes live.

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objection to bringing a 'historical inaccuracies' section back - i always thought it was rather interesting before it was deleted!

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Ok thanks. By the way I've found more sources in support of my proposed RfC wording - should I add them to the list of sources?

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of lessons to plan tomorrow. Feel free to rework that morale bit (and indeed the article), you seem to know your stuff! :)

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When I saw the above by an obvious conspiracy theorist who is obviously not posting for the first time. I though, "

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removed so I think User:Haipa dragoon is correct that it does technically fall under the definition of synthesis.

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Loved your comment on the Franklin child prostitution article, thank you for advocating for unbiased coverage.

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Heyo. Just wanted to thank you for your help resolving the issues on the OoT talk page! I appreciate it. --

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sense other than in the context that conspiracy theories are generally understood to be false.

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because the level of evidence is sufficiently poor that it would not survive summary dismissal.

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is an excellent example of RfC formatting just posted by another user in another conversation.

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So, one question is what is the "current" version? The original "status quo" version was:

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Sure, add more sources, although I gotta say the current 18-references is

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