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790:). The whole story is as follows: User Biophys is obsessed by the idea of suspecting all of his wikipedia opponents of being members of secret brigades associated with Russian security services (KGB, FSB, whatever). He has been warned many times by other editors and even WP arbitrators about inappropriateness of such a behavior (see, e.g.
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Whilst she did make the claims, as I have explained on the other users who have reverted (Biophys/Colchicum), they need to be provided in context, and in an NPOV way. Also do you have any other sources for information which can be used on the article? Bring it all to the talk page, and it can all be
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Out of 5 articles he created (see his user page), only one is about an obscure political party (discussion page is empty). You can also look at the images he created. I dare to say they are wonderful. As to political clashes, he took part in them AFAIK mostly to defend friends. For instance, I asked
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No one is obliged to write the whole article, to balance it, etc. One CAN add relevant information in any article. This is the basic principle of WP. The section
Controversies as it is now is ok as these are her quotes, sources are reliable. As I have shown this is not a mockery. You, Biophys,
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I don’t revert to edits which I consider weak. I tell you once again (and probably last time). You're deep in a trap of your childish logic. "I disagree with him on the article content. Hence, he is a KGB (FSB, whatever) agent (squad member, whatever)"
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Russian (Section Критика). It is pretty the same as it was in English WP. What you're doing now is just deleting referenced material from the article.
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Beatles_Fab_Four doesn't exist since ... mid-2007. I do not use multiple accounts (except when I forget to log in). Similar question is addressed to you.
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