User talk:Belle/Archive 1 - Knowledge (XXG)

1884:, I'm so used the gender imbalance on here now that I didn't even think (I'll correct that to heroine but still do the swooning; it will work as a trick to draw the enemies closer). I think we should have a multi-reviewer system which would cut out some of the hook pulling; inexperienced QPQ reviewers could pick up the worse problems and then other reviewers could pick up the niggles. A lot of the time I have been just pointing out little problems without doing a full review, but I get the impression this puts other reviewers off, so I've pulled back from that a little. I'm not too bothered by the hook-pulling per se though: unless the article is actually on the main page I don't see that it does a lot of damage other than creating a little task for the puller. I think in DYK there's too much searching around for somebody to blame or to lay the responsibility on. Now...I suppose I'm supposed to leap on that spare horse and give our battle cry but you forgot to tell me what it was. 1844:

with girly usernames) "manfully" working long hours doing workhorse reviewing for DYK, while a goodly proportion of hook-pullers-who-are-not-actually-doing-any-reviews are boys (or at least people with boyish userpages). Just being frivolous there. But more seriously, I'm guessing that the current hook-pulling could be a knock-on effect of the QPQ system. QPQ forces reviews from a lot of people who may not feel suited to reviewing or who do not feel they are ready for it. So some dodgy hooks get through and get pulled. Then some other people get panicky about the whole DYK queue and go through it, chucking out anything that is not to GA standard - and we grassroots reviewers have to pick up the pieces. I had been enjoying reviewing a great deal until this past week, but I'm now considering giving up (hence the flagging). After seeing what I've seen in some DYK templates, I'm now very reluctant to enter any more DYK noms myself, unless the hook-pulling excesses stop. --

3297:", and I disliked the attitude and the argument (which showed that they have no idea of what an infobox is) enough to revert. If that is an edit war I so far had wrong concepts of what constitutes one. "People who visit this page probably have the ability to read whole paragraphs", yes, but perhaps in a language other than English, perhaps looking only for one fact, - let's serve those also, that is my battle cry. It takes nothing away from an article. (Wrong, it damages an article, - that is the battle cry of the opposition.) -- 514: 1548:

comments. I don't think it is a big deal; your comments came across as quite aggressive without the context (that bolded "No" looks imperious) and EEng responded in the flame-fanning way he does. Taking it to the admins instead of to EEng just complicated things IMHO. I hope he redacts his comments (as nobody else is allowed to) and the whole thing can be forgotten (I think his final hook is the best of the suggestions, but my input at that nomination as come to end with my ill-fated editing)

936: 2352: 2912: 669:, high quality and spirited, great to meet you. There is no rule saying a reviewer should not edit the article. When I review, I fix little things all the time, and question others. There's a rule that if you proposed a different hook, you can't also approve that, which makes sense. Different means: with new facts for which others references need to be checked. If you simply improve the wording, you just ask if the nominator agrees. Looking forward to more, -- 475: 31: 3627: 188: 2697: 1696: 3564: 2844: 4102: 3673: 3473: 986: 1658: 3802: 2487: 2742: 2374: 1142: 557: 201: 2200: 405: 2524:, I'm sure I wouldn't have such horrible American disease. If I was infected with something it would be lurgi or drengelus, but seeing as smelly boys aren't allowed in our treehouse I can't see how I would have caught anything. I haven't been at DYK as I've been away, but I'm back now; prepare for TLC! (Tomato Lettuce and Cucumber sandwiches, right?) 1489:, we are not allowed to change another editor's comments as it will look, on the face of it, as if they are saying something that didn't. Most editors will not check the history and thus editing another editor's comment can be construed as a form of false misrepresentation. There's a rather long list of conditions under which a comment can be 2628: 4077:

and help new editors (Thinking about it, I normally encourage first time DYKers by threatening them with violence or spouting nonsense, so I'm probably not the maternal figure I'd hope to see there). Next time (deep breath), I'll leave out any suggestions and just ask how we can sort out that unfairness. (I liked your edit summary btw)

1941:(ec) Did you know that DYK has its cycles, seems to happen mostly in summer, I remember 2011 (19 June kept on my talk, to look at in tough times). So far I survived them all, no hook pulled, only one reviewed hook pulled from prep but then repaired, no bad record I think. Pulling should be no dramah, stress on "should" ;) -- 750:, you can compare: movement numbers are numeric in table and text, translations of titles only italic when also a title (most of Bach's cantatas are not), etc. - Where would I see you at work, when the red link turns blue? The citation fairy was an IP, can't be "summoned", as a true fairy. But I remember where I asked ;) -- 1977: 3970:

As I said on the DYK talk page, I really like where you are going with this and I believe it could lead to more participation. It might help if you create a proposal in your userspace and then invite seasoned DYK editors to give it a critical look. For a proposal like this to gain traction, you're

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Longer story: I read your edit summary "born to be ...", that reminded me of the top notice of my friend saying "tell me as gently as you can", which is not on top of his talk anymore, so I had to go to a older version but don't like the ugly pink notice on top, therefore took my last message in the

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Eek. I'm a girl too, haha, girls can be superheroes too, eh. So take this spare white horse and this sword and let's go and whack that old DYK backlog (surely there's something more exciting to do with a sword?) It's interesting to see how there are currently quite a lot of girls (or at least people

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I'm sure EEng didn't mean to offend you, he's just sarcastic and flippant and doesn't make concessions for those who might not share his sense of humour, but I don't think he's the sort to insist his right to cause unintentional offence, so I didn't see any harm in redacting some of his less-helpful

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That's a bit of a mad rule, but I won't touch it any more unless somebody else comes along to do the review. Do you think I am disqualified from passing it now? I've done copyediting on previous nominations and the nominators have subsequently asked me to review the nomination. Perhaps I should ask

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Hi Basement12. I do appreciate it when people hold off on heating the "Oppose" brand in the fire I was actually hoping it would provoke some discussion about the imbalance of contributions. I don't begrudge any regulars their collection of DYKs, but I'd like to see DYK more as a place to encourage

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I'll come over here to talk because I don't know whether or not I'm getting messages. No, three days of a migraine isn't fun and I'd wanted to spin through the van der Weyden this weekend. Lightly. I hadn't planned an entire rewrite. Anyway, hope you are well and keeping DYK on its toes. I can put

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Not in that discussion, no; the second replacement of the infobox got you in trouble, but I don't see anything belligerent in your attitude in the discussion. If that's all there is to it I wouldn't have admonished you, I would have instructed the officers to strike off your chains, give you a hot

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Everybody seems a bit cranky today (DYK seems to be melting down, so much so that I haven't bashed about the hooks in the queues today as I would normally do), but I do feel for Victoria: three days of migraine can't be nice. You, on the other hand... (just joking, let's not start any more fights,

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I tried a little copyedit on your church cantata but I had two problems: 1) I'm a musical idiot (much to my chagrin, I'd give my right hand to be able to play piano...no, I don't think that's going to work out), 2)I stamped on you Sorry. I tried to fix it and I think I've managed. I might pluck up

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The childhood exposure (lol) doesn't appear in the least to have created a jargon deficit in your baseball IQ. My use of "caught on with" is not really baseball jargon, just an American colloquialism that really ought not be included in an encyclopedia article. I have removed it from the Ringo

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Hi Victoria. The attribution is a good idea; although Hafspajen and SagaciousPhil and then I tried to rewrite it away from the source it is quite hard to reword folkloric stories without losing the essence of what they are. Always happy to help with the Memling although I will be on holiday in a

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on your proposal but it's clear that, as written, users don't like it. Whilst I often run away from editing for long periods when I've had enough, I suspect, as I have 100+ DYKs, you'd consider me part of the weltanschauung who run the show but I hope you can tell from my comments that I'm not

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I imagine you flying in my face ;) - no, you don't! - It might be a good idea to do only a bit at a time, not too many things in one edit, - then reverting is easier ;) - The topic of the English "titles" has been discussed at least three times, - how could you know? - I had put your New on my

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That cocktail does look nice (looks strong too though), but it doesn't have a name because the photographer forgot it. What sort of photographers are we employing here? Also, you should get a cleaner and spend the day mixing yourself cocktails. Hic. (Hic is for comic effect; I haven't started

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Hi, . Short answer: yes. Nominations can take months to get reviewed (though that is the exception rather than the rule, a couple of weeks is nothing). I'll see if I can get to it later on (got to go and walk the bear right now; that's not some sort of euphemism, just the nickname of my dog)

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Thank you, Yoninah. Hopefully I'm not adding more stodginess. I appreciate you helping make up the preps, I can't face that myself; too many steps; too much to go wrong; too much blame attached when it does; but without people doing it DYK is dead in the water. (The girls are coming close to

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Hi Gerda Arendt, pleased to meet you too and thanks for your thanks. I asked about the editing because it seemed strange but there are so many rules hidden away and I've already seen some quite abrasive characters enforcing them (though, of course, I'd expect them to show some leniency to a

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I admired what you said to Victoria tonight. This is a mess. It started when I thought Hafspajen‎‎ was about 10, but then he was talking about having been to art school, and I was thinking, fuck what have I gotten into here. I need to trust more my first instincts, this is off.

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Why is my signature red when most others seem to be blue or fancy? I don't see an option to change it in preferences. Does to change after a few days? Sorry if this isn't the place to ask this, but you could spend 20 years reading all the documents and still be none the wiser.

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Butting in: Hi Bellemora! I noticed your query at DYK and, having spent the past few weeks up to my eyeballs in work and finally springing free today, I decided to peek at the article in question. I've attributed the "Legend" because imo it's written very close to the source -

1169:, it was a different issue - one long term friend I had and loved very much (who got blocked too while I was on Wikibreak for some years), just turned out to have a sock. An editor that gave eveybody a hard time. Kind of a dissapoitment... Knowledge (XXG) is a weird place. 360:

Well, I have never created anything like a Shakespearean character. All the fictional characters I have created are from TV shows. I am not use to sourcing from scholarly journals. At some point I may dig in, but it is not likely soon. Thanks for the links. I left them at

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anyway, - do you see why? That was a notable battle, edit war over a piece of sacred music on Easter, page protection and all. (I confess that now, a year later, I find it kind of amusing, for example the line "Couldn't you consider going back to your old former self?")

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Plus ça change at DYK (that's sort of demoralizing in itself). Unfortunately, I don't think I've done anything at DYK today except muck about and get told off for trying to calm things down (in the WRONG way). Tomorrow, I'll do something useful (Tonight, cocktails).

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You are good at counting! What I saw was that I added an infobox, as I had done on other compositions, it was reverted, I got it back, then a battle happened that I observed, and the article was left with the infobox for quite a while. Weeks later someone claimed

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Thanks Hafspajen; its the godddamn truth, I am kind of hotheaded;) Glad to see you back, I was worried the thing re the gallery on van Eyck had put you off. It lead directly to a major expansion of the page though, so thank you for that. 16:57, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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I realised I was probably flying in the face of standard practice with some of that, but I thought you could revert anything that wasn't useful as long as I didn't make the changes too extensive (just as you have done). I'll start my article where you suggested:

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going to have to consider the counterarguments and respond to them. IMO, no matter how good your proposal is, you're going to be up against the "no change is good" crowd. Good luck with this and please keep pushing forward. You've got some great ideas.

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I just peeked in and noticed the copyedits there (a lot of them, yikes!). Thanks so much! I'll pull out the sources and get to your talk page comments a little later, after work. Just wanted to drop a note to let you know the copyedits are appreciated.

2261:) 15:19, 30 June 2014 (UTC) Thanks, Bracky. I don't know what I'd do without you. Sometimes I leave brackets off just so you'll notice me. How I long for you to light up my message bar with your "automated message" which we both know is no such thing. 2007:. Fun times at DYK! I'm in awe of all the work all you ladies are doing there, because I can't even figure out how to submit an article, if I ever bother to write one from scratch. Huge kudos to all of you! And, yes, Gerda is correct about the cycles. 1512:

Just as I said in my edit summary :). I did let EEng know and I like to think we are on friendly terms and he wouldn't mind. I don't think it was doing any harm except to those that can't read the history and want to involve themselves, but whatever.

612:, the book might be in the public domain, so … Anyway, just thought I'd drop in. When I review DYKs I tend to edit them, fwiw. Stupid rule, not adding improvements, but no one asked my opinion. Anyway, hope you are well and enjoying it here. I 4041:. DYK is a very long running part of the main page, reform is bound to be slow and hard; frankly it should be in the case of a major part of the main page. Your comments/reviews etc always make me smile and we need more of you around here so 3198:

Do you suggest that belle is short for belligerence? - If I was beastly I would probably not be willing/able to play the beast. I was proclaimed a member of the infobox warrior club, did you know? Don't you think that's worse than "beastly".

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I won't be modifying my comments, which were chosen to help Amandajm understand how overwrought were her responses to my obviously well-meant suggestions for improvements to the hook -- you hit it just right above re the "imperious" bolded

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I have just on to Knowledge (XXG) grumpy because my laptop charger has stopped working and I have had to resort to using my netbook, which has a whacking great crack across the right hand side of the screen, and then you come out with

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Ouch, poor thing! I don't think there's a rush and the copyedits are very welcome. Yes, I think after the judgment/judgement discussion we decided British English. I'm about to dive into the sources to bring myself back up to speed.

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Nah, don't worry. I'm trying to get away on vacation too in few weeks and the summer is stacking up so if I might not get Memling finished ever. Anyway, apologies for butting in. A bad habit I thought I'd cured myself of. Best,

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Thank you for the edits, some was helpful, some you couldn't know. "Musical idiot" sounds funny, and is no problem, just the opposite: it's a good test if it's comprehensible to a reader not familiar with topic. FA standard is

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You sort of need to have thick skin and a jaundice eye around here. I see your friends, or the people posting most often to your talk are good enough people. I've had a few I was fond of blocked indeff also. It sort of sucks.

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While I have your attention...I don't know if your artistic interests run to minor 19th-century French painters or jump straight from the Italian renaissance to the 20th-century avant garde, but if you have anything to add to

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OK; copyediting is OK. Sorry I misunderstood it. It is about one not supposed to add large bits of content. I haven't made that much DYKs either. Some 8 of them and I am not that good at DYK rules. Yet. Thank for helping!

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Doesn't anybody like it here? Everybody I talk to seems to be leaving, thinking of leaving or regretting coming back. Luckily for me, my faddish nature will mean I lose interest before I have a chance to become jaded.

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OK, let's be friends again. (You should have just said that comment was a joke, as I would have believed you; I know it was frustration, but there has to be some truth in your feeling that way; besides which I have

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well-behaved neophyte and not make me have to unsheathe my claws/flick-knife). If you'd like me to review or copyedit anything please ask; I'm still too daunted by the citation templates to add much content myself.

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Thanks for looking. I suppose I'll have to check French sources. Also I see you are retiring later this month which means I've wasted my time being friendly. It will be all curtness and brevity from here on in.

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You and I know that (the hungry bitch part not the beast part; you aren't at all beastly), but were all my defenders? (probably feeling intimidated by my belligerence, unreasonableness or sexual voraciousness)

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Do the infobox warriors fight for or against infoboxes? Please create an infobox with more details on their allegiances, notable battles and dates, motto and coat of arms. That would be funny if nothing else.

3778:, so can you doublecheck what I've just said and make the comment yourself? I'd rather not re-inflame him, but we can't let it go to MP that way either. You might want to eat this message after reading it. 2871:

My own William Morris; at last, I will have all the Arts and Crafts decoration that I want; I will feed him if he works well and even take him for a tour of the grounds (on a leash of course). Thank you.

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I think that many of the people who are active in community processes are deeply resistant to change, and this is harming the future of the site. Look at the main page! This is web design circa 2004!

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You've been admonished and restricted too! Knowledge (XXG) as a quasi-judicial system; how do I get to be a judge? (I'm not au fait with all the rules and regulations, I just want the robe and gavel)

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Nice cocktail of thoughts, thank you, all. If you have a new article worth showing, Victoria, ping me, - I love to nominate for others, it's more than a fifth of my total, and I am proud of it, --

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Thank you for some good news! As English is not my first language, any help in copyediting is welcome, the list of articles I started or expanded this year is on my user page, DYK today will be

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Thanks for trying to help. I have to point out for you that as a reviewer you are not supposed to edit it. It has been all kins of controversies on DYK, and I don't want to do anything wrong.

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Oh come on, it's not that bad; I've got a big dog that looks like one of those tormenting beasts though, be careful or I'll set him on you (he may slobber you to death but that's about it).

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I wish you would as I think they've served their purpose (but if wishes were dollar bills...I'd have slightly more money than I do now, allowing for banking charges and the exchange rate).

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It is demoralizing. But it's been nice watching your work there. Needs to be done and you have the right touch, so to say. Here's a cocktail, enjoy! I'm house-cleaing… ugh! (with breaks).

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that runs DYK but we all know there is (and that's true for any part of the project); however please don't assume their (our?) motives are disingenuous and driven towards preserving the

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I don't need a judge (arbcom is no judge), - I would like to know if an unbiased visitor - like you - sees me fighting or at war in that discussion, - because I am biased and blind. --

248:! The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Knowledge (XXG) and get help from peers and experienced editors. I hope to see you there! 4023: 3933:, I haven't much time today (one of my horses got a nail in her foot this morning); I'll try and finish up later. British English, right? (I keep changing it but I'm not sure) 3576:

When I left a message on the DYK talk page, I didn't expect much to come of it for at least 12 hours, but thanks to your help the nomination wasn't held up by a CN tag. Best,

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Van der Weyden had the grace to to only hint at his tormentors, but here you are going through sentence by sentence. My exasperated and confounded, bitter sweet, thanks.

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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meal and a bath, fix you up with a new suit of clothes and pop a shiny penny piece in your hand (as you can see my court is based in the 19th century)

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Copy editors are hen's teeth on wiki and it usualy takes more than one to turn my brogue into passable prose. I would appreciate if you could give

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recently, found the women doing the work ;) - please keep doing it! (if you open "blushing" on my talk, there's a good image of standing strong)--

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Flying to invent a prep-set-robot? - That would replace a serious task where a human is needed to evaluate, and if he makes a mistake or two, he

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courage to start an article when I get back from holiday; keep a look out for my stumbling around so you can summon that citation fairy. Tschüß.

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please do. I impetuously translated it but he's very thin and I haven't had a chance to dig anything up to put some flesh on his bones. Bisous

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I'll say no more (you can just imagine me as the good angel on your shoulder; open casting for the bad angel; should have own horns and fork)

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Let's not try to recapitulate the whole article in an infobox; people who visit this page probably have the ability to read whole paragraphs.

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I've never had a foe (or a nemesis or a mortal enemy, though I've had a cunning adversary or two), so don't rule yourself out as I pay well.

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Thanks for your contribution to the article about the Korean sinking, which will probably be on the front page of WP shortly (nomination is

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I'm confused. Are you voting for me as a beast, TRM? EEng, what is this about my legs (or Gerda's legs)? Am I a witch or a bitch? Or both?

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Belle, your humor is refreshing and I love your posts. I'm so glad you joined the stodgy bureaucracy over at DYK! (Yes, I'm a girl, too!)

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The term means both sides. You will not want to know what you asked for, nor do I ;) - I am for infoboxes but I don't fight, - I was

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I welcome your angelic counsel. But wear sensible shoes, please -- high heels can be tough on the shoulder. 17:05, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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actually get some work done over at the St Johns in the next couple of days and will give you a yell if/when I need help. Take care,

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Don't worry, it was an attempt at computer humour. All the bots over at the secret bot base are laughing their circuit boards off.

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when you next log on to Knowledge (XXG). I have addressed your concerns and happy to address any other points that you may have.

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outnumbering the boys on my talk page. We'll have to make up a secret password and I'll paint a sign: "Smelly boys keep out!")

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To start your collection of barnstars, it gives me pleasure to award you the copyeditor's barnstar for your "meddling" on the

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No worries. I asked at DYK talk anyway as the rules don't mention any restrictions at all. 8 DYKs are 8 more than me, honey.

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and hopefully he has made your day better. Share the WikiLove and civility with everyone and keep up the excellent editing!

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I should probably have put it in quotation marks, as it is lifted from your user page, "Because I'm hungry and a bitch." --

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to remove what was perceived as a personal attack and the subject of the ANI. As a friendly heads up, please note that per

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I have added this category to your User Page from one that edits Knowledge (XXG) to another that edits Knowledge (XXG).

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Belle, I appreciate your attempt to help, but as Blackmane explained it wasn't a good idea, though you didn't know that.

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Listen, if there's much more of this I'm reporting the whole bunch of you to the US Department of Homeland Security.

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Still, DYK is feeling a bit unloved at the moment and could do with a nice friendly dose of TLC from a caring soul.

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Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Knowledge (XXG) appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited

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for automated archiving. I personally archive my talk page manually by creating subpages off of my talk page.

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I'll be ceasing editing regularly. I wont be walking into a grave or anything, like. 01:44, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

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Requested meddling! Of course I will, though I can't promise it will be quick: hectic social life, you know .

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again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on

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I like it here. Very much; I have met some great people, like you. Its a matter of rolling with the puches.

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again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on

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Ceoil is lovely. He is just hot-tempered sometimes. (Now he will bite my head of for this, of course...)

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You lost me, Gerda. Did you want to take advantage of EEng's video club membership and get popcorn?

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I didn't take you "too" seriously, but you did have a good point. The picture does liven up the MP.

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Just remember to clean up after him - he is usually quite tidy, but accidents do sometimes happen.

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a storm comes to them for help and shelter. Wilson falls in love with Toya and teachers her about

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Sure, why not? So long, sucker! . What the?...this wallet is full of video club loyalty cards .

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In other circumstances I would apologize, because truly no offense was intended, but this person

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twice and nobody has said anything? I wonder which of the meanings is getting tacit agreement:

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Sorry. It is unjust to let my frustration go out over you. Is just the lates events at

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Chuckles are good for your health..I should know as I am a doctor...keep on chucklin'

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watchlist (you ca watch not-yet-articles the same as others). - Enjoy your vacation! --

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Thank you. (You did have to use those horrid citation templates though; I hate them!)

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couple of weeks time, so don't think I'm blanking you if I don't respond for a while.

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Thanks for your support at ACE. You met the people who still believe in the war ;) --

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I'm not coming anywhere near your gems, gams, or anything else. You people scare me.

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and initially embarked upon it for fun. After Cambridge he made his stage debut in ]

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Francis will be nominate for FAC later today, hint hint, my deadly, fabulous, foe.

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I like girls so much, I moved in with one - she helps with the cooking, brilliant!

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I just replied over at your page. It's good this Knowledge (XXG) talk page thing.

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I'm not finding a huge pile of sources, still looking, but thanks for introducing.

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against reform. I'd caution you against any suggestion that there is some kind of

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back my message if you'd like? Or you can retrieve it. It's your talk, after all!

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that i submitted as I am not very familiar with the process? Should I wait more?

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Glad it cheered you up, it was intended as "something to uplift Launchballer".

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is a different kind of superhero (or maybe not). BTW, you were highly praised

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Thank you for assistance per fiacre. Did you notice the hard life in battle?

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Hmmmm, as you went with "helps with" I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

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I've checked and I'm not. I hope this isn't a prelude to Doctors and Nurses.

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Wha.....? I think I'm at the wrong address. Isn't this the biker's hangout?

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for advice about it. For how to make a fancy signature, if you want to, see

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Thank you, Belle, hungry bitch, for quality article contributions for ITN (

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said that if "you looked through a keyhole" you might see scenes like his

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Hi, as a regular stalker of WP:ANI I came across an incident relating to

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ps: perhaps I better clarify that I also play the part of the beast, --

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to members of the United Kingdom's Houses of Parliament killed in the

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Thank you. (I can give it to the pet William Morris I received above)

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Sigh, I know - of course you have nice nose. I am an idiot, sorry.

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Indian National Congress campaign for Indian general election, 2014

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Welcome to Knowledge (XXG). Your signature is red because it is a

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ones armed. This editor has a longstanding preoccupation with me

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don't say one of the few armed in history, rather one of the few

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The two-timing robotic bastard! I though he only had \1 for me.

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Hello, Bellemora, and welcome to Knowledge (XXG)! Thank you for

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No problem. I felt I had something in common with it as I also

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This message was delivered automatically by your robot friend,

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Can you tell me what will happen with the DYK nomination for

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That depends. Some infeffed editors are better that others.

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at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

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Yes, it sucks. And it doesn't seems to make them any good.

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to be offended and I don't think that should be rewarded.

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Your talk page and the awards are enough to prove that.--

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needs to deal with it personally. No-one else can fix it.

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I came to say thanks for a pleasure of a review for that

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I have passed a proficiency test in using one of these.

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Thank you, Super DYK Avenger, you are my hero! Swoon.

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Gerda, I knew you were a girl because I didn't use to

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In that case I may occasionally drop you a kind word.

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And so I have. "Knowledge (XXG)" needs to chill out.

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old version: popcorn! Enjoy, I will go to rehearsal,

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Belle, I'm one of the few who didn't attempt a bold

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tender loving care, how can you pass it in abbr, --

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