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info in directly, and started waiting for somebody else to add it (I never had to wait long) I knew their versions would be reverted as written (usually without explanations) so I would edit their text to take into account issues that had been discussed. I did go directly against your recent reverts, however, because you didn't actually give an opinion on the
Journal or the text; you seemed to be reverting purely based on your interpretation of wiki-policy which I felt was not supported by the whole "Be Bold-Discuss-etc." thing-a-ma-bob. If consensus is your concern, I do wish you would give your opinion. I'm afraid that I only know the plot, and the journal is the only real issue I see with the plot summary (although I also do not like the flow of the Black Freighter paragraph, but I don't have a better proposal) That is why my edits are mostly on this. Still, as I said, you may be right, and I may be too focused on it. That's why I threw in the RFC, to get some outside perspective. Thanks for your attention, advice and . . . consideration . . . in all of this. --
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look at your edit history and see how many of your edits are about this one little thing. I have no problem if there's consensus for a workable solution, but right now there isn't but you're trying to plough through regardless. As I said before, just take a step back and wait for others to agree with you; if it happens it happens. Until then, we can't keep that bit in the plot summary. All I ask is you wait until a consensus to form on your viewpoint; that's all. If it does, it goes back in. Don't try to force it in.
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