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Father Goose..... I am so sorry.... I just not very good at this..... could you please tell me what your email address is? I know it should be easy to email you, but when I click on your name I see no email address. I will send the articles to you ASAP or if you like I can post my email address for
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I have scanned the hard copies of the articles written on Ronnie Nelson aka Bhakti Rasa aka
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Billboard magazine. It was Billboard Magazine that reviewed the Sympathy F album that was listed on the college charts. I will search for the listing on the charts as well as finding how many college radio stations played the music.
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I've found these sites and I know I need to organize them and pick them a part. I think it's clear Ronnie Nelson is Bhakti Rasa and has sold albums nationally and beyond.... do you think this has been proven? I'm working on the articles next
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I just received 10 articles about Ronnie Nelson and his musical projects. There are pictures of him to go with the articles from 1. the Denver Post 2. Westword magazine 3. The Rocky Mountain news 4. the Denver Post.com 5. 5280 magazine
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We're trying to get information on a band named Sympathy F. I thought it was a Billboard college charts, but I just found out that it was an album review by Billboard. This would have been 1992 maybe 1993.
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JPGS sent. With a detailed email. I've also requested a profile picture from Ronnie Nelson. Working on more and more and more...lol. info. Also let me know what additional info you would like.
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I also found out that Ronnie aka Bhakti Rasa won song of the week on www.amazef.com and his song "Hello Means I Love You" Was Played on the Hugh Hewett radio program for a national audience.
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I'm finding more an more information, some of it is archived, do I just post the link and let those who wish to read the article register as member?.
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