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504:, I added the template "translated from German" to the talk page and figured it was enough. I'm really sorry, I didn't mean to cause this. However, I don't really understand what you want me to do, even after reading the page you linked to me. Are you saying I should make a "dummy edit" with a link to the original German article in the edit history? Is there anything I should add within the article itself or are the edit summary and talk page enough? I truly apologise and will definitely be more mindful of this in the future. 1112:. Some citations and sources are in German but this shouldn't be a problem for you since you have "sehr gute Deutschkenntnisse" too. I really took a lot of time to make this draft, so it turned out quite good (I think). I would love to hear your suggestions for improvement! Since I am German too, you could give comments and suggestions in German. (Also on a personal note: I absolutely love your username and wow, your userboxes are amazing!! I mean, you are vegan too! Love that...) 2189:, as I remember an argument about how to list his occupations and some were suggesting "musician" for brevity. In the end, the article kept the list you can read right now, which includes "rapper, singer, and record producer". However, that was a long time ago so, if it's this article in the first place, I think it would be difficult to find the discussion. In any case, the explanation I remember was that "musician" is vague and usually implies that the person plays instruments. 2124: 307: 697: 1997: 1600: 1232: 1024: 936: 775: 561: 1851:. I couldn't even tell that was Letissier (and I am not intimately familiar with how he looks regardless) because it's blurry as all hell. Saying that somebody's body looks "feminine" (Letissier was still assigned female at birth and they have not, as far as I'm aware, transitioned regardless of their gender identity) and saying "their" (intentionally being vague) is not "misgendering" because I 1742: 903: 1908:. Using "their" for somebody you don't recognise and do not know the gender pronouns of is not incorrect. Great, you've identified the person as Letissier and "corrected" the pronouns since. I don't have an issue with that. I do have an issue with any editor characterising an edit regarding somebody who isn't identified or was not identifiable as "misgendering" them. Thank you. 1690: 1937:
Again, I had no idea who made that edit and it didn't occur to me that this could have been because the editor didn't recognise the artist. That was not a possibility that even crossed my mind, as I assume that people who edit articles about musicians (or their albums) are generally familiar with the
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I can accept that you didn't do it intentionally because you didn't recognise him, just like I'm sure you can understand I wasn't targeting you specifically because I didn't know who wrote the alt text. I'm autistic so I sometimes get "blunt" or whatever you want to call it, but I didn't intend it as
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and I really try my best to do so as much as possible, but I will admit that I often have trouble doing it for this specific issue due to my experiences in the past five years I've contributed to Knowledge (XXG). I've seen all too many edits purposely misgendering people, especially on non-protected
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Hi! I'm necessarily not against the idea, but I'm very unfamiliar with how WikiProjects work so I would need some help to get the hang of it. I totally understand if you have better things to do, but would you mind redirecting me towards resources so I can learn and hopefully avoid messing up? Thank
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Hi there, I've noticed you changed "Oak" to "Okay". While I agree in the past Warren Felder has been credited as everything from Oak_wud, OAK, Oak Felder, and Warren "Oak" Felder, on his last few releases across Spotify, Tidal and Apple Music, he's been credited as Warren Okay Felder. Now this could
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to fix some formatting. I would also suggest that you fix the date formats in references: dates written like "2021-06-26" are generally not recommended. Since the subject is European and works in Europe, the standard is usually dmy (day month year) dates. For example, write "26 June 2021" instead of
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policy is often cited in the nowiki text of the articles I quoted above to justify choosing those terms and it states: "The lead sentence should describe the person as they are commonly described by reliable sources." No source I've ever found (and I've read many, both in French and in English, for
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I honestly agree with you. I've actively involved myself with Demi-related articles for two years and their nickname wasn't formatted like that for most of that time, which I personally thought was just fine and did follow the policy you cited. It was added pretty recently and seems to be have been
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I would like to genuinely apologise if my edit summary came across as a personal attack. It was never, ever intended that way, and I want to stress that I have absolutely no ill will towards you. We seem to semi-often be on the same articles, so I hope that our future encounters will be less tense
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Hi Bizarre Bizarre, Greetings. You could put the PATT on talk page (new section) and in the future do indicate in edit summary (an each edit) and just one article talk page PATT. The tag you place is a message, but attribution should come from you. The best way to do it (for future articles) you
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Hello! While zapping through the pictures of Demi (by clicking on the arrow on the right), a picture of Cristina Aguilera popped up. There must be a mistake in Demis archive which I'm not capable to fix. Maybe you can have a look at it - as you are contributing a lot to the article. Thanks!
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at the top of your article will help other users know which date format should be used in later edits so it remains consistent throughout the article. If possible, it is also preferable to write website names without URLs: "www.german-jordanian.org" is better rendered as "German-Jordanian
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that my name is not on the list. I see that you already submitted your draft for review yesterday, so there's nothing to do besides waiting for an authorised reviewer to look at your draft. The process can be quite long, so please have some patience. With that said, your work looks pretty
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as examples because they're some of the best, but it's pretty much a standard for musician biographies. In the future, my advice to you would be to scroll through articles instead of using the gallery unless you already know the article very well, as a lot of context gets lost. 🙂
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Hello... I am quite new to Knowledge (XXG) (only about 10 edits) and I wrote my first article today. Would you mind reviewing it? I'd be really pleased. The article is quite short and thoroughly researched. It is about a Rector of a University of Applied Sciences in Germany:
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I didn't even see who wrote the alt text so it was most definitely not targeted towards you specifically. I'm non-binary myself and that's how it came across to me. Using they/them for someone who's explicitly stated other pronouns is still incorrect. A quick look at
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musician's appearance, especially in the digital age. I also followed the (social and traditional) media rollout of the album pretty closely so I didn't consider the possibility that someone editing the article could just not have seen the artwork before.
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be an error though its unusual its appeared like that across all digital platforms. I mean its odd, and we're a while off from the album coming out so we won't know for sure but I was inclined to go with what the sources said for easier attribution.
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from the infobox due to lack of support in the body. I couldn't find reliable sources to support that either, so I'm not sure how it got there. Anyway, she is known for singing and songwriting, therefore she is a singer-songwriter. The
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I just noticed this myself too while looking at screenshots of the credits on Twitter, it's indeed really unusual. I wonder if it's a typo or a new stage name, but I now understand why you'd go with "Okay" to avoid
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I don't have anything against you, and I wasn't going to let this taint how we interact in future, don't worry. I understand you didn't know who made the edit. Tbh I know how Letissier looked years ago, during the
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Alright. After some time away to reflect upon our conversation, I realise that I might have been a bit curt in my previous message because I wrote it right before going to sleep, for which I'm sorry. I know about
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this article) describe Aya Nakamura as a "musician". Sources usually describe her as a singer with strong emphasis on her songwriting (at least French ones do, as her lyrics are quite controversial in France).
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has a lot of additional explanations to improve the layout and formatting of your edits. Thank you again and feel free to keep me updated on what happens to your draft, I would love to know the outcome!
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causing a lot of discord since then, at least from what I could see of the edit history. That said, if you want to discuss the matter with more editors, you should probably do it over at
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I remember that vividly from several years ago and made a mental note of it at the time. Unfortunately, I would not be able to tell you what article it was from; it might have been
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I've given it some thought and this seems like a really cool idea. I'm honoured you thought of me and I hope I won't disappoint. I'll go add myself to the list. Thank you again!
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Thanks a lot for the suggestion for the formatting of the dates! I already changed the dates and the website names, and I will definitely take several closer looks in the MOS.
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page, you mentioned that the word "musician" is not recommended in most biographies. I've not seen that anywhere before, so I'm curious as to the basis of that claim. Cheers!
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as Demi's biggest influences, so there are pictures of Christina and Kelly to illustrate that. It's far from being unique to Demi's article: you'll see pictures of
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Hi, while doing Recent changes patrolling just now I reverted you at Morrisey, but on looking more closely I see I was too hasty - apologies for the disruption.
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Oh wow, I'm a bit anxious about my edits sometimes, so this really motivates me to continue! Thank you so much, I'm really grateful to receive this
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says that should be the case unless the nickname is uncommon. I believe "Demi" should be avoided as it is an obvious diminutive of Demetria, but
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of the featured articles list, you'll notice that the ones about contemporary (1945-present) music artists use precise terms: "
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eras, but I haven't kept up with how he looks recently as I haven't watched any of his performances or music videos in years.
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