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demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that Brian K. West and Bret McDanel (Trixter) are two different people living on two different continents. They've been extremely active on the Asterisk users mailing list over the past 4+ years. There simply is no reason to believe that one person is responsible for nearly 2500 different posts to that list under two different names for the past 4 years. That being said, there is still the issue of who said what to Calltech. I can see why there is confusion about Brian possibly being the anonymous poster from 86.92.134.171 - the anonymous poster did speak in first person in what would seem like a direct response to a message directed specifically to Brian, making it seem like the anonymous poster was Brian himself. Calltech drew the conclusion that Brian and the anonymous poster were the same person. Given the available information at the time of the inference it was a reasonable conclusion. Unfortunately it just happened not to be correct. Calltech, if you'd be willing to consider the possibility that there are indeed two different people here, Brian and Bret, that would make a lot of people in the OSS telephony community breath a little easier. I'm sure either or both of them would be willing to have a direct conversation or even a conference call with all parties, just to make sure that everyone knows that there are living, breathing persons behind the electronic monikers we all use. Bret, if you made personal attacks against Calltech, would you be willing to apologize for those? Please at least be willing to consider it. Brian, I don't see where you did anything other than express your viewpoint and why you felt that way and then got dragged into a heated discussion that you really didn't start. Would you be willing just to let it go and move on? That, too, would make a lot of us breath easier. In the end I'd like to see all three of you shake hands, as it were, and move forward. We still have the issue of what should be posted on WP and I'd like to see energy directed there. Last thing: any of you have explicit permission to contact me at my place of employment. In the US you can call toll-free 800-540-9011. Sorry Bret, we don't have a toll-free number that works outside of North America. You can still call me at 559-733-7550. I am extension 1160. I appreciate your willingness to consider my proposition. I will respect whatever decisions you make and I will not pass judgment on any of you. You have my word.
2909:“Welcome to Knowledge (XXG). Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added to the page Web conferencing do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Knowledge (XXG) is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Knowledge (XXG) uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Calltech (talk) 12:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)” 1529:™ article keeps getting tagged as an advert and it clearly isn't. It talks about an Open Source voip project. I see that you also have requested removal of Call Weaver and contributed to Asterisk and other project articles. You are clearly not showing objectivity if you favor one project over another. I would accept recommendations on why you feel this is an advert, this entire article was rewritten by a third party back in july and I feel its very neutral. If this is considered and Advert then the one for Asterisk PBX should be also. 1012:
wrote, in my opinion, a very good chargeback article and I added the link to the chargeback page. My opinion about the link if that it's good, it stays, if it's bad, it's removed by an unbiased editor. This link, unlike all the others was removed (btw, the link remained for all my other articles for a long time (months), until you deleted all of them). I investigated the person that removed my link to see if he's unbiased, and it he seemed to be the person owning the website that has the only link on that page
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According to the link you provided "A company, corporation, organization, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of coverage in secondary sources." Below are just a few such references. So, if you compare the original content to those of similar Knowledge (XXG) articles, and follow the notability guidelines as described above, I don't see why the article should be deleted. Once again, I welcome your thoughts on the subject so I can begin restoring the content.
505:- "A website that you own or maintain, even if the guidelines above imply that it should be linked to. This is because of neutrality and point-of-view concerns; neutrality is an important objective at Knowledge (XXG), and a difficult one. If it is relevant and informative, mention it on the talk page and let other — neutral — Knowledge (XXG) editors decide whether to add the link.". This was pretty much left intact until the recent proposed changes which actually puts this under its own heading now. 799:
guidelines, especially since WP is cut and dry when it comes to linking to commercial websites as I mentioned on your talk page. No COI determination is required nor reliable source verification. It simply says avoid "Links to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services." Yet the guidelines don't say avoid links to self-publishing websites with the same content. Doesn't make sense to me and wanted to let you know my thoughts. Again, thanks for your comments.
1736:, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "It is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person that would require a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This article does not qualify for speedy deletion because it is not an advert but is an expandable stub. If you still want the article to be deleted, please use the 3479: 720:"Due to the rising profile of Knowledge (XXG) and the amount of extra traffic it can bring a site, there is a great temptation to use Knowledge (XXG) to advertise or promote links. This includes both commercial and non-commercial sites. Use of Knowledge (XXG) to link to a website that you own, maintain or are acting as an agent for is strongly recommended against, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked to. 1016:(John Conde). Feeling that my link was dishonestly removed by an unbiased editor, I replaced his link with my link telling him the following: "If you keep on removing the link I added I will keep on removing yours. Apparently you're a link farmer (I've looked at your other "contributions") and thus you have no right whatsoever. Persisting on doing so I *will* report you and ask for all your links to be removed." 2238: 1023:
for adding external links, yet I think my links are really good, look at the one for the CVV for example, the CVV page never had an external link and this link fully explained the benefit and the advantage over the AVS. I don't have a lot of people I know in wikipedia so that I can get admin status to add/remove links the way I want. I just want to be fair and treated fairly.
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FreeSWITCH project. As I said the three core developers including me are not allowed to post on Knowledge (XXG) as we have made a policy internally to never do so. We let the community do the writing as I already know its a Conflict of Interest for me or anyone directly involved with the project to post anything because we can't provide the objectivity needed.
818:) readded a handful of links to EoE articles that you removed. I've looked at the EoE articles for these topics, and they all seem to add more information than we have in the corresponding Knowledge (XXG) article. That's just the sort of resource we'd normally provide for readers in an External links section, so I think it's fine to link in these cases. 2321:
Should I just go ahead and add these and make the article more Adaptive Audio product specific, without sounding sales oriented? I can keep the tone neutral - I just wanted to makes sure there is no COI here with me editing this article under those circumstances. Also, do I need to run this by the other people that edited my article so far?
3246:. This article has been around for almost a year, has been worked on by multiple editors, and it has some value to the project in my opinion. Speedy deletion is only for entirely uncontroversial deletions where nobody could be expected to object. I don't think that's the case here, because, for a start, I object ;). Cheers! 2913:
have video conferencing software available. From the information I have had back in reply to an email addressing this problem with the wikipedia information team it sounds to me like wikipedia allow certain companies to monopolise the enclopedia and "advertise" as you call it, whilst prohibiting others from doing the same.
1803:. I appreciate the work you're doing in trying to ensure that it remains neutral and that editors with a conflict of interest are not allowed to take over the article. However, in doing so, you've become quite rude and are now probably doing more harm than good. This is especially true in the case of your thread on 161:
without posting a notice on the article talk page. I'm sure you can appreciate what Knowledge (XXG) would become if everyone started adding links to their own sites or to sites promoting themselves and their services. This is probably the number one contention among Knowledge (XXG) contributors and editors.
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My post was modified due to containing external link in the article Desktop Notes. After editing a few articles and getting some paragraphs removed, I have learnt more about what should and should not be included in wikipedia. However, the link to Notes Agent is really worth including in the article.
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The listing of notable web conferencing vendor articles is a major reason why people visit the web conferencing article. If you disagree, a link should be created to a new article of notable web conferencing vendors. Note the "comparison" document has been tagged as in conflict and unreliable, with
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May I suggest a reasonable compromise? Before I go any further, just let me state for the record that I would very much like to see this situation resolved peaceably. If I am overstepping any boundaries then please let me know, and I will step back. With that said, let's continue: I think it can be
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I suggest you stop making threats you cant back up. You arent special you dont have the ability to ban me. You do go around getting any non-asterisk project delisted though. Callweaver and OpenSER were both delisted based on your activities. Others have complaned about you removing links to other
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The CallWeaver removal stuff is out of bounds. The project has been going on for two years, and it is active indeed. You have commented on my person in the project, and I have accidently registerd myself twice at wikipedia, as Rkarlsba and Royk. Please remove the former. As you may see from the logs,
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Calltech, as you know, external links are allowed. Knowledge (XXG) also encourages edits, but discourages back and forth disagreements, interference, and "wars". Regarding the Medical Assistant links, neither external linked website is commercial. If anything, there ARE commercial links RIGHT NOW in
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The whole article was only stating facts, and also so in a neutral, non-promotional way. The article will be recreated. Please provide feedback about specific problems (references, structure, text quality, phrasing) for constructive feedback on proper recreation, on my talk page, or provide feedback
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Calltech - I want to write a specific article for Adaptive Audio - the product, just like Microsoft Outlook, with references to the official web site, like velcro. I have read the notability guidelines and believe I have enough independent references in magazine articles etc to meet these standards.
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Also, I think it's odd that you keep removing these links. Do you work for a paid conference call company or something? Can we find a link or links that are acceptable to you that will inform people about free conference calling? There are several vendors out there, and numerous articles about them.
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I don't see what I did as vandalism, maybe I went over the edge a bit with my reaction, but this was based on his action. Apparently, ever since all the links (that were there for months) were removed, stating that I'm link spamming (while in reality I had only about 8 links). I know there are rules
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It's surprising how such a great place like Knowledge (XXG) could have such issues like this. The link added as you stated spam was a valid link that represented the type of quality that Knowledge (XXG) looks for. What gives you the right to displace valid and otherwise relevant links that are in no
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Specifically, Knowledge (XXG) discourages links to: "A page that you own or maintain, even if the guidelines above imply that it should be linked. This is because of neutrality and point-of-view concerns; neutrality is an important and difficult objective at Knowledge (XXG). If your page is relevant
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I understand the reason behind the removal of my paragraph in Desktop Notes due to its promotional nature. However, the external link is relevant to the article and people do follow the links to the review article on the website (hence proving that they are interested in the subject). I have also
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Could you kindly let me know where am I going wrong? I am not editing this article anymore. Two admins have edited it already and the second one finds that it does not have any conflict of interest (Kindly refer to the last entry on the discussion page of the article). I have researched some of the
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As you mentioned in Mehndi section, external links are bad and are not always. In case of Mehndi, there is nothing related to knowing more on it, but its collection of pictures and materials which has more value. Linking with such materials are not spam and hope you understand and agree with me.
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When you delete content and call people vandals without helping others by answering their questions on your talk page it looks like you are not neutral, and do not represent the true spirit of Knowledge (XXG). Is this true? This makes it very difficult to understand what good reasons you have for
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The link on the VLIW article was not added by me. It was added years ago by someone else. All my pages have moved from the cs.utah.edu domain to the siliconintelligence.com domain because the University of Utah is shutting down alumni accounts. I thought I was doing Knowledge (XXG) a little service
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I am new to Knowledge (XXG) and I don't know much about editing on it. So if I am doing this wrong, I apologize beforehand. I believe this message was about the Stream Processor external link. I have seen the call for help on that page, but don't have the time to write stuff at the moment. The book
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Could you please tell me why my contribution to the article has been removed, when in all due respect the information I added was no different from the information that’s already up about other companies software. It wasn’t intended to be used as an advertisement, just to simply state that we also
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I added ((request edit)) to the top and bottom of the Adaptive Audio article. There were some edits, though not many. Unlike Outlook, which has millions of pro/con sided users out there, Adaptive Audio does not have that sized knowledge base to work from. As you are one of the few that has edited
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Place a comment on the article's discussion page and let other editors make that judgement about whether listing these commercial companies adds to the article. Because these companies are small (not notable in WP terminology) and don't have articles and because they are commercial will raise red
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I am confused as to why you are removing what I've added to the Conference Call entry. If you go back and read what I put in, I carefully referenced an article about a legal matter between Qwest and FreeConferenceCall.com. I don't see how this is commercial content. I believe it is good and useful
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Calltech I want you to review the comments I made on the spam entry you made about me. I would like you to retract those comments ASAP as you made comments that reflect badly on me and that are false. I am not the person from ip 86.92.134.171. Its a defamation of charater directed at me and the
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Hi! Apparently you're a web programmer so you know if an e-com article is good or bad, I think the articles on itoctopus.com are all good, including the ones on job interviews, project management, and e-com, not because I wrote them myself, but because people tell me that. The thing started when I
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Absolutely! It was a worthwhile learning experience for me. Didn't turn out as originally intended, but well worth going through the pains. I have always enjoyed and supported Knowledge (XXG) and will continue to do so. I know you feel the same. Keep up the good work. And thanks for the support to
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That is why I recommended getting a editorial consensus, or RFc, which lets the community comment on whether or not links should be added. In general, once other editors remove a link, it is difficult to get it overidden by Knowledge (XXG) Admin, especially if the link was added to one's own site
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I wrote an article on CallWave Inc. and you put a tag on it saying it's an advertisement. Please look at the article again and let me know what part looks like advertisement to you. It's a public company and I think public need to know about it (think about all the people who have a stake in that
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guidelines. Don't take it personally. If you think your links are valuable, put an entry in the article's Talk page and let another, unbiased editor add it. If others feel like you that it is a valuable resource, it can be added in that manner. Also, please sign your comments using four tildes
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If you are holding the view that "see also" should not contain anything that is not strictly an Asterisk distribution or an Asterisk add-on, a view which I would disagree with and which is not common practise on Knowledge (XXG) looking at other pages, then at the very least you would have to also
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To your point that the article was deleted in past, it might be a good idea to look at how the previous articles were written. Maybe they got deleted for a different reason. I just don't think that it's fair to delete an article just because it was deleted in past. Before I write anything on the
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I have said this earlier and I am saying it again. I am not a spammer. There are thousand ways to spam and using one's real identity is certainly not one of them. I do not have any negative intent for my presence here. My article had been marked as "Orphaned" and I was told to introduce links in
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I know someone that goes to USAFA from my high school. She said the math and engineering courses are extremely difficult (not to mention the physical aspect of the service academies), but I think she's surviving. That's what kind of scares me about the USMA, since I'll probably do very poorly in
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Please provide justification why a link to the GNU Bayonne and sipX pages under "see also" are appropriate while links to other such pages such as Freeswitch and Yate are not. Likewise, why is a link to trixbox page appropriate while a link to the FreePBX page is not, especially considering that
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article. This article is not spam or an advert. Some people keep editing the article to make it look like spam so it will be deleted again. I worked very hard to keep this article from being spam and do not like the advert tag. Please help me improve the article by removing what is viewed as
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Caltech, based on the talk history and your change history it is clear that you have a bias in favor of paid telecom services -- perhaps you are an owner or shareholder in such a company. That does not give you the right to remove relevant, timely, and useful information regarding free telecom
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Unlike, AT&T, MCI, etc. the companies do not have their own individual articles to link to. I did run multiple searches on this niche using Google, Yahoo, and MSN, then compared the top results and found the mentioned companies to consistently show up. I looked for other business longevity
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Hi Calltech. I agree that the content I put back after the original was removed was not as complete as it should have been, but I fully intended to replace the original content gradually - perhaps there is an easier way to restore the original content? As for notability, thanks for the link.
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that had made its way in. Everybody has their own concerns, but each one was a bullet point, the guideline would be too long to be of use. The external links rules must walk the delicate line of maintaining simplicity, flexibility, and robustness. If your concern is over unreliable websites and
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My post was modified due to containing external link in the article Desktop Notes. After editing a few articles and getting some paragraphs removed, I have learnt more about what should and should not be included in wikipedia. However, the link to Notes Agent is really worth including in the
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I wanted to put the "hangon" tag on the Text2it article but it seems to have already been deleted. I added back some basic content after I noticed it had been deleted the first time which was admittedly sparse. However, I don't see the difference between the Text2it content and other similar
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If you look closely, you'll also see that I had the Digium article removed as well (tagged as advertisement and subsequently merged into Asterisk), so please don't suggest bias here. If an article is written such that it appears to be promoting a product or a project, it should be tagged as an
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by updating that link. But you had to go and revert that too. None of this is my original research, just surveys I wrote which took months of reading and understanding years of other peoples research. So I don't have any motivation to get self citations or something. I was just trying to help.
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Thanks again for your comments. I agree that the mass reverting of all links is probably not in order here, but I think the author of this site needs to refrain from continuing this process of just linking and his most recent edits were just that. I think he had his hand slapped by two other
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I clarified the comment to accurately reflect the events as they occured. Her open solicitation on the article talk page resulted in your (re)adding the link, as supported by your inline comment. She did not directly solicit the first link addition, but did so for subsequent link requests.
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You call it spam but I have added valid and legitimate articles whereas the article I removed you put back. I can understand if you want to keep this article to yourself but the reality is the link I added much in fact much higher in value than the link you added back. Stop removing my valid
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The second part of your comment, however, is what I was looking for. As I mentioned, I've watched the recent brawl over WP EL guidelines and didn't like the addition/revert process. I thought the arguments pro/con on Youtube and other self-publishing websites seriously exposed a hole in WP
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and I consider that issue resolved. I believe I have made comments on all of the given talk pages of his admission, but also have expressed displeasure in users who have posted using multiple identities because of resulting confusion and appearance of deception, specifically by Trixter.
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orignal research and it has 0 facts. This is why notable vendors who have proven their worth ahould be included in the article (as they have been for years) or in a section of notable vendors. As such, I undid your revision. Feel free to post to my talk page for further discussion. --
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What I don't understand is that the link to the online demo (demo.unblu.com) has been removed as well. The demo has been built to illustrate co-browsing from a non-commercal point of view. It can be used absolutely anonymously and is separated from the commercial web-site of unblu inc.
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Clairm, I went ahead and removed the EL per your request. Thanks for observing the COI guideline - making small, non-controversial edits is acceptable. It would be best to suggest other changes on the article's talk page and let another editor (without a COI) make the actual change.
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Hi. I'm sorry you didn't like the reason I gave for removing your addition to the guideline. I actually have several concerns with it. First, as I noted, nobody commented on your suggestion on the talk page. A lack of discussion should not be mistaken for an endorsement or consensus.
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Hi Calltech, I saw you marked as promotional the page about Mirial. What I was actually trying to do was to remove promotional content and add third-party resources. I'm quite new as wiki contributor so I might have done it the wrong way. Anyway that was the intention of changes.
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chapter I linked to is something I wrote last year and I think it is a comprehensive introduction to the topic. I was a postdoc with the Stanford group that worked on stream processors. So I think I can vouch that the article itself summarizes the Stanford and MIT work honestly.
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You have the wrong user. Check the article's history. Your contributions are spam, however, because you continuously are adding the same link to multiple articles and because the link points to a forum website requiring registration and probably one you are affiliated with.
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Encyclopedias use thousands of examples that reference organizations or companies as references for users to better understand a subject. In addition to the Knowledge (XXG) guidelines you cite, do you have any other rules that would help contributers avoid your deletions?
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that simply promotes a single company that likes to refer to itself by this name. Since WP is a dictionary and not a means to promote a product or service, this article was removed. If you re-create it as a representation of a company or product, it will be deleted again.
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Calltech, thank you very much. I will heed your advice moving forward. I appreciate that you've explained this in a friendly manner--I've seen a few fairly rude responses from guides/editors in passing (granted they probably deserve the right to get a bit grumpy at times).
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I removed the "Free" part from the section on Conference calls. This is because you systematically remove any reference to US Free Conference vendors. The article, in fact, has zero mention of free conference calling whatsoever. So, the "Free" in the title is misleading.
885:, so I consider myself a neutral party. When your edit to the page came up I was surprised to see that you think that the University of California Digital Library is a spam site. It seems pretty legit to me. You might have an argument about accessibility to the paper per 2447:
services and methods for users to opt-out of such services. This is a warning to you, based on the WikiPedia rules that any further vanadalism (removal of said information) from the Robocalls articles will be grounds for blocking your account. Please behave yourself.
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Could you give some specific pointers on how to avoid advertisement style? I've read the WP article but can't pick out the advertismemtn style (likely because my own writing) but I would appreciate any specific pointers because I'd be very glad to remove the style on
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Thank you. I sure will. Last week I jumped in with little knowledge of Wiki policies and guidlines and I realized too late I was doing something "wrong". I hope with some changes made in the correct way the article will be restored as "non written like an ad".
1575:™ page. If you feel one is and the two pages were written similarly then both should be. Although you may have removed the commercial components of asterisk, you dont seem to feel the same way about asterisk as you do to competitors, such as removing the 2643:
order to connect it to other write ups that are related to it. I thought this was one way to do it. As for my credentials as a writer you can google "Raj Machhan" and see for yourself whether I have engaged in any activity that you can term as "spamming"
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Yes I experienced that same problem. I was going to check on another computer in case it was a browser error on mine, but as it didn't work for you, I'll remove it. I was not the one who originally included the link, I just made some edits to the page. --
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Back then, pretty simple guideline with no section headings - "Knowledge (XXG) disapproves strongly of links that are added for advertising purposes. Adding links to one's own page is discouraged. The mass adding of links to any website is also strongly
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I dont feel like tagging other projects because I am confident in who I am as a person. Although the types of things that you have done based on this page does seem to lend a bit of bias towards asterisk considering that was the template used for the
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If it is a relevant and informative link that should otherwise be included, please consider mentioning it on the talk page and let neutral and independent Knowledge (XXG) editors decide whether to add it. This is in line with the conflict of interests
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with the following edit summary 'together with the Article in ZDNET and in Linux Mag France, can this notification to be deleted removed? ZDNET is also listed at Knowledge (XXG):RS. see also http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Openmeetings'. Please consider
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within paragraph 'applications'. Please note that most of that paragraph does not make any sense now because the reader cannot find the mentioned cloud application any more. This was the citation, the source of the information. So if you still feel
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the article, I wanted to invite you to make any changes you see fit. Can you do this please? I do not want the article to be dismissed simply because it is a new technology that so few know about, very few edit it and it gets deleted as a result.
1811:, being civil, etc. Other people will watch the article to try to keep it neutral, and Knowledge (XXG) won't fail if the article isn't immediately perfect. Taking a small break will hopefully allow you to focus on the positive when you return. 137:
Let's settle this once and for all in a fair manner. What is your definition of a commercial site? And then let's take it from there to see which links belong, and which ones don't. I am adamant about this... as nobody actually OWNS the article.
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From reading other peoples responses, on one side, it seems to provoke and push away many excellent contributors. On the other side, it looks like you may have done a good job because of some glory (The Editor's Barnstar) and recognition (Satori
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I was tempted to simply revert rather than bring it up to you on your talk page; and I imagine a number of editors did simply revert what seemed like the removal of a legitimate external link. Anyway, sorry to have troubled you. Have a great day!
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I noticed that your comment for the original removal was "rm non-notables" - so it was not that the original content was not comparable to other material in this category, it is that in your opinion Text2it is not notable enough to be included.
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I do not want to receive any more traffic from Knowledge (XXG) or pay bandwidth charges for that and on top of that deal with unreasonable types. So consider this a request to never link from wikipedia to any of my content. Thanks and Good Bye!
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I was following Josh's instructions to create a good article and yet it was deleted anyway when projects like Elastix, a fork or trixbox, are allowed to remain. I really don't understand how ours is listed as advertising but theirs is not.
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I feel like a little more kindness and conservative editing would be better for Knowledge (XXG) and everyone. I believe this is not easy. Nevertheless, I wonder if you believe this would improve the value of Knowledge (XXG)? Sincerely,
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article. It is the world first desktop notes with built in Artificial Intelligent notes. The review in the website is the most up-to-date. Please re-consider the option of letting my paragraph be restored. Hope to hear from you soon.
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Sorry about that random IP readding the external links back, he is going all over Knowledge (XXG) and reverting anything I changed lately or agree with it seems. I assume he knows nothing about Asterisk and is just trying to piss me off.
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flags with most editors that this is an attempt to get attention to these companies rather than presenting a neutral article about Conference calls. Also, WP is not a list of websites or providers of products or services. Please read
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that registration was not made during the callweaver dispute, but a year before that or more. Please do not remove the CallWeaver entry. That project has lots of people, and although it hasn't got too much press yet, it will in time
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Thanks for your reply on my talk page. Your explanation makes good sense. I know it's probably too late in this instance, but it might save trouble to be more clear as to what you're doing in the edit summary. Maybe something like,
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Dear Calltech, I am sorry about deleting your page. I will not do that again. I did not know how else to prompt you to answer. Obviously, you misunderstood because you thought you had already answered my question, when you did
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This link as well as several others added during the last few days to this same website constitutes conflict of interest. Also, the fact that the articles now are surrounded by Adsense adds on your website presents even further
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It is the world first desktop notes with built in Artificial Intelligent notes. The review in the website is the most up-to-date. Please re-consider the option of letting my paragraph be restored. Hope to hear from you soon.
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I've created a draft of an article I'd like to post after receiving feedback from seasoned Knowledge (XXG) editors. If you could review the article at your convenience I'd appreciate it. User:Voice99/Tech Operators Draft.
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I wrote the Knowledge (XXG) article just to let it to be known by people who can benefit from it. MizuTech is hosting the service only from good intention (this is not a product, just a free service without any advertisment)
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should be keept, because it is a reputable software used by more than 24000 users and this ~1 year old article is objective and very useful. Please tell me what should I do (if any) to keep this article on Knowledge (XXG)?
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Thanks, agree about cut the knots. I feel a bit less guilty given the other remarks. I think getting WP:EL official and also some spam guidelines official would help. I think my most recent run of criminality may have been
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the medical assistant article itself, that you have tolerated from the beginning, such as the one to the AAMA. AMAA IS a business. Medical Assistant Net (hyperlink removed) and MA Exam Help at (hyperlink removed), are NOT.
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apparently disagree about this article, judging from the edit summaries. It wouldn't bother me at all if you want to take this to AfD. I speedied the related article which involved a product they were selling. - Dan
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projects. Wouldnt the same guidelines apply to you where you are obviously not an unbiased 3rd party but strongly trying to ensure that pages that do VoIP/telphony that arent asterisk removed be against some policy?
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Thanks and I appreciate your response, EurekaLott. I stated in my "Edit summary" that I had placed a comment on the talk page over a week ago because I wanted to make it clear that this was not a knee jerk addition
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It is inaccurate to the point of being misleading as it implies that my initial edit was solicited. As you are well aware, it is simply not true. Please consider wording your complaints more carefully. Thank you.
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seen large amount of external links in large number of articles on Knowledge (XXG). Could you please advise how I can add an external link to Knowledge (XXG) but make sure that it is not promotional in nature?
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Hi, I see you removed some old references with EL form Mirial s.u.r.l. I would like to remove as well the EL in the last sentence of History section. I would do it myself but I am not sure it's fine if I do.
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It is obvious you know little to nothing about WP and its guidelines so go post your thinly disguised partisan, biased and unwanted commentary elsewhere. WP is NOT a forum for promoting your personal agenda.
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As a whole, do those reviews sound like your actions genuinely represent the true intent of Knowledge (XXG)? Or do they demonstrate an example that injures Knowledge (XXG) and leave the community in a poor
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you left me a note which i saw before someone deleted. if pos could you tell me where the policy on self links etc is? I have read wp:el but i think that's not policy yet. I am feeling pangs of guilt about
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Courier companies are a spin-off from freight forwarders. There are various types of courier companies, such as airfreight courier companies (FedEx, Skynet, Crossflight) or road couriers (Circle Express).
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I was being figurative with the word "your" and in no way was referring to any of your links and apologize if it appeared that way. I was smiling at your "guilt" comments. BTW, I was very impressed with
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The link to www.cs.utah.edu/~mbinu/coursework/... will merely redirect you to my siliconintelligence.com domain. I have removed that link from the VLIW article -- though the link there existed for years.
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math. Berkeley seems easier (since my major will be psychology and there are no required engineering classes), but I'll be stuck with lots of anti-war kids that will undoubtedly bag on the ROTC kids. ;)
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article or let me know what is considered adverts so I can edit and fix up this article. If no good reason is given why this article is considered an advert then please remove the Advert status.
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That was his response: "Please do not vandalize wikipedia entries. Other editors have also removed your content. If you are here to contribute why not sign up and use a name instead of your IP?"
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other company specific articles on Knowledge (XXG), and some of them indeed are balatant advertisements for the companies, and still these are there? Am I paying the price for being honest?
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cited as references that show this organization is noteworthy (in WP terms) over the millions of other companies and organizations that want to appear in WP but don't meet WP requirements.
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Calltech I AM not the anon person... I can tell you that Trixter and the anon person are ONE IN THE same and he will not own up to it. I request you withdraw your comments ASAP about me.
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Most of the EL's she's added have already been removed but on Inter-Asterisk eXchange‎, she has solicited another WP user User:Apankrat to assist her and we are currently at the 3RR level.
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with 91.89.1.35 before pursuing deletion further yourself. If you still think the article should be deleted after communicating with the 'dePRODer,' you may want to send the article to
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Several vendors in the US now offer free conference calling services. Such services generally require users to dial a long-distance phone number to be connected to their conference.
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metrics, like domain registrant information and these companies have been around for many years. Can you suggest how an editor would mention such new companies in an evolving niche?
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Calltech: Should I have created an Internal Links section at the bottom of the article to include the providers raher than adding them directly into the body of the content I added?
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Suggestion: Can we add a topic called "Free Conference Calling" and put into that some mention of some articles regarding the topic -- only from high quality publishers naturally.
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Also, the wording of your clause was broad enough as to make it nearly opaque to most contributors. The entire guideline was recently rewritten to simplify it and cut back on the
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One more thing about the Mizu WebPhone: this could be a very useful free service for people who are using VOIP. You can convince about it if you take a quick look on this page
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advertisement until its re-written in a neutral fashion. FreeSWITCH is still written in this fashion. If you feel Asterisk is written as such, feel free to tag it as well.
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Let's continue discussion in one place on your talk page where this was originally posted. No need to make entries on both Talk pages. I'll watch for any postings there.
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As it stands, I believe you are (possibly purposely) preventing readers from finding out about free conference calling in the US. I cannot understand why. Let's fix this!
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guidelines. Also, when your removed the references, you did not remove the claims, added an alternate reference or even add a 'cite reference' tag to the statements. --
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Hi, I'm the author of articles about flaphone. Could you explain where in my article was the advertising? Article I is similar to other SIP phones. Thanks in advance.
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I went ahead and removed the tag (added by D3innovation) from my talk page as I think you've requested - hopefully that will help clean out the requested edit entries.
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Hi Danni and thanks for adding a discussion rather than just reverting your links. Here is where Knowledge (XXG) defines the do's don't of adding external links .
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promotional", which is what you are doing by tagging it with g11. If you feel strongly that the article doesn't belong on Knowledge (XXG), I suggest taking it to
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Mbinu, please review WP:EL before adding any more links to your articles. What you are doing is considered link spamming. Calltech 18:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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I'm glad you added your name in. I will hopefully be joining the military when I go to college (USMA or ROTC at Berkeley) in July or August. How was USAFA? =)
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I just want to ask you to take a look at it, and think one more time about the deletion, than delete it if you still consider it as a "Blatant advertising".
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page and add more and specific information to assist the mediator in understanding the situation, please feel free to do so in the proper sections. Thanks!
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I love Knowledge (XXG) would like to understand how to participate. I am not sure if this is the right place to post a question to you, but here goes.
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which was pre discussed in wp space, and when afd kept it but still is a bit "me myself i". ps sorry for no caps baby has my other hand at present. --
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to Knowledge (XXG)! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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and that I had looked for comments. No assumption on my part that there was a consensus nor (by itself) should it be a justification for removal.
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If you disagree on my statement on how the original content compares to similar topics, I would be very happy to make modifications you suggest.
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Thanks for the update. I did look through the history of this IP and noticed some of his comments to that effect. Keep up the good work on WP!
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Was trying to prevent spam on this article. Didn't know what else to do than put the spam notices on the article. Is there another option?
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Please review my comments on your talk page. Lets keep the discussion over there rather than going back and forth between our talk pages.
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I stand by my comments 100% and the dialog from this talk page section demonstrate the clear association of your User ID with the anon.
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Please let me know, what we need to do to provide this demo unter WP:EL. It should just show what co-browsing is to anyone for free...
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Thanks for following up to let me know where you are in the process. Sorry I could not get to it right away when you messaged me. Best,
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You are absolutely correct - I got too wrapped up in this issue and lost objectivity and will definitely be taking a break here.
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Hi. While i can't see you doing so, do you have any objection to me de-transcluding the above tag, i'm attempting to clean out
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on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out
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I have just received a message whilst logging in to wikipedia stating that a contribution made by myself on this article (
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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to
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Thanks for your quick answer, the reason I added the article on CVV and AVS is that it's related to both. Thanks again
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and informative, mention it on the talk page and let unbiased Knowledge (XXG) editors decide whether to add the link."
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has been opened, though as of this writing a mediator has not yet selected the case. If you wish to stop by the
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and that was what i did on the page. I am still learning how wikipedia works and i did it in good faith.
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FYI, this was my first speedy deletion tag, not my second - the first one you removed was from an admin.
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Adsense exists on some pages because the state of Utah is not paying my bandwidth fees now. I am.
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on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  --
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Ok well then can we add a sentence simply telling people such alternatives exist? Suggestion:
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as there does not seem to be agreement as to whether these links should have been removed.
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I've expanded the article & made some comments on the Spam December archive page.
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Hi, i tried to be neutral in the writing. let me know how can i make it better?
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Hi BozMo, training a future wiki, eh :-)! Here's a few links to the old WP:ELs.
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maintain, it is considered promotion and that is how WP defines link spamming.
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article, but please note that footnote-linked sources are not governed by the
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editors - perhaps harshly, but hopefully this simple link posting will stop.
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See you again in a few years when I have the time to update my web pages!
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for Knowledge (XXG) to have information about this dispute in it.
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http://www.mizu-softphone.com/Home/PublicPhone.aspx
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