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221:. Nominators are supposed to modify the article in response to reviewers. Now how can a review progress if the candidate list/article keeps being modified by editors who don't participate to the review ? As for the USO article, you made some edits I didn't agree with and I reverted them writing "these changes should be discussed". I probably shouldn't have made the revert and just ask for the discussion, but then you probably shouldn't have edited the page again as you knew I had asked for a discussion. The page will be at FLC sometime soon, and if you want we'll discuss it there. For the moment I have addressed your edits at the Wimbledon review. -- 462:
champions. Don't be discouraged by his bad behavior...continue to report it and note why what he is doing is contrary to Knowledge (XXG), which requires that articles reflect pluralistic points of view and mutliple, major independent sources. Fyunclick is clearly wrong, yet has shown no inclination to compromise, admit mistakes, or the like. Thus, is it up to others to point out his behavior, which in the long term damages not just Knowledge (XXG) but the education of those who use it.
1185:, "When a Checkuser detects that an account has been using open proxies, this information may be considered when evaluating suspicions of sock puppetry or other editing abuses. If there is an appearance that an account has been using open proxies to circumvent policy, the account may be blocked." When you make a claim about not being part of policy, you should probably actually read the policy in question. Toodles! -- 1031: 839: 574: 1117:
socking. So, all the varying excuses (yes, they vary all over the place) given for initiating the block and then declining to unblock make no sense whatsoever. When the next administrator acts, please first read the ANI thread cited in my initial unblock request and applicable policies and then cite a relevant policy in your decision.
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I don't get it. I'll have to live with what ? If it's with the fact anybody can make any edit I have no problem with that. I said I was wrong to revert you on the US Open article (which was by the way at FLC during your first edit), and I was probably wrong to do it too on the Wimbledon article, even
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It's not a matter of having a rule or not. If an FLC is being modified by editors who ignore the review, it becomes disruptive for that review, because suddenly the reviewers and nominators who were working on a particular version of the page, sometimes studying the text word by word, find themselves
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page to see how the process works. Continuing to make major edits (including the removal of sources) while ignoring the review and/or refusing to take part in reviews or discussions as you did is counter-productive. Now, since you refuse to follow conventions and list your issues with the article on
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Come on, one message you threaten me, the next you tell me what to do ? Seriously : I admit my mistakes (I should have contacted you directly instead of reverting your edits), but you haven't been exactly cooperative when it comes to discussing major changes. Do what you want with the USO article -
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Are you even trying to be civil? You have reverted pretty much the same things I have, though you have one other person on your side of the issue, yet you post two warning items on my talk page like I'm the only one. I'll talk to a mediator and see if maybe he can help us out here but I still don't
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It should be noted that the block was in violation of policy from the very beginning. There is no policy that prohibits a registered user from using an open proxy. Nor is there a policy that allows a registered user to be blocked for using an open proxy. Finally, there is no evidence whatsoever of
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Of course I understand the problem for articles that have actually been nominated for featured status. But you'll just have to live with it. Nominating an article does not entitle you to exercise ownership over it or revert any and all edits made to it. Do you understand that? If not, maybe we
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I have done absolutely nothing wrong. And as I suspected, there is no rule prohibiting the editing of an article that has been nominated for featured status. If you don't like the absence of such a rule, then maybe you should suggest one at the appropriate forum. Declaring that "I intend in the
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Do we have some past I don't know about? It seems you have been saying some harsh things and digging into the past on me with some sort of vendetta. I know we disagree on certain things but why the acidity? I see you are new to wikipedia but people disagree around here all the time without getting
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User Fyunclick's edits are contrary to the outside sources...sources such as ESPN, the World Almanac, the Encyclopedia Britannica, and the Roland Garros website all list the French pre-1925 champions. Fyunclick has gone so far as to claim the tournament started in 1925, and blanked the pre-1925
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Open proxies may be used for reading, yes, however for security reasons open proxies are hard-blocked on sight, and users may not edit while connected through an open proxy. That's why the word "reading" is italicized there; that's the only allowed use of open proxies on Wikimedia projects.
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a prohibition against using open proxies to read articles. Finally, the policy says nothing about blocking a registered user for using an open proxy. If you believe your interpretations to be correct, perhaps you should pursue an amendment of the policy to reflect your views. Regards.
936:: "Well, as far as I know, and having discussed the matter privately with a couple of 'crats and Arbcom members, and as a result of some investigations (including direct contact with him) we are pretty sure that this isn't Tennis expert. ... It may be worth talking it over with 680:: "Well, as far as I know, and having discussed the matter privately with a couple of 'crats and Arbcom members, and as a result of some investigations (including direct contact with him) we are pretty sure that this isn't Tennis expert. ... It may be worth talking it over with 807:
I didn't say anything about a "warning". I said "notice". As you will see, there is not now and never has been a blocking notice on this discussion page, which specifically violates the Knowledge (XXG) blocking policy. As for open proxies, the Knowledge (XXG) policy does
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It should be noted that not being Tennis Expert does not mean that you are not using multiple accounts and/or IP addresses in an abusive manner. You are currently running through a plethora of open proxy IPs in an attempt to dodge this block, as evidenced by
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though I was just trying to have a stable page during the review. My only problem was with the fact you kept ignoring the calls for discussion, despite being asked to join the review several times before you actually did it. And why are you threatening me of
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Only an IP account that was confirmed to have been an open proxy should have been blocked, not my registered account. 3) None of my edits have been disruptive or have even been alleged to be disruptive. And no sockpuppeting has occurred, as administrator
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say that open proxies may be used only for "reading". In fact, the policy specifically says "may be used" without qualification, and certainly editing is a "use". The reference to "reading" is there simply to say that there is
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Stop exercising ownership of articles and stop knee jerk reverting my edits. Reinstate my edits to the US Open article, which you admit should not have been reverted. Then, we can have a productive and loving relationship.
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the review, I'll try to address your edit summaries, but we will get nowhere, and certainly won't be able to improve the article unless you accept to participate in a regular review/discussion process. --
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told you, in the case of a GA, FA of FL reviews, "it is conventional for reviewers to list issues , so that the nominators can try to deal with them." You should go through the
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they are not the intended targets and may freely use proxies until those are blocked. No restrictions are placed on reading Knowledge (XXG) through an open or anonymous proxy.
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but since we still disagree on the nature of the changes we have to open a discussion on the talk page too. I'll address your comments on The Championships' review later. --
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The case itself says, "It is well-known that in English law there is no right to privacy, and accordingly there is no right of action for breach of a person’s privacy."
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upset. I assure you I'm not upset... just trying to make a better article, that's all. I will stand my ground but if I said something to make you upset I do apologize.
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near future to nominate such-and-such article for featured status" does not entitle you to revert every edit made to the article, before the nomination or after.
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Warning is not a prerequisite for blocking, particularly in cases of sockpuppetry (which is noted in the block policy, in the "Education and Warnings" section)
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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How about "the case is the leading authority for the statment". I study law and you NEVER cite ancient cases unless engaging in judicial activism. See
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Hello. I'd be interested to know what earlier cases are authority for the statement that there is no common law right to privacy in English law?
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know where all this animosity is coming from. You also seem to have a good working knowledge of wiki for only being a member here since June.
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You're blocked for your use of open proxies, and there's no cause at all to unblock, Tennis Expert or Mickey Mouse or whoever. --
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I apologize for not meeting your expectations. But this discussion is useless so long as this account remains useless.
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a featured candidate. And aside from that, please show me the policy that prohibits normal editing of an article that
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Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
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Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
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Really doesn't matter. This account is useless because it is blocked indefinitely in violation of policy by
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you aren't going to get off the hook simply because the blocking administrator didn't jump through some hoop
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This does not deal substantively with the reason for the block, which is that this account appears,
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Actually, there is a policy that prevents registerred users from using open proxies. See
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The FL review process does not explain your knee-jerk reversions of the article that is
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Per comment below. Three unblock requests used up; page to be protected now. —
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I won't decline this while the ANI discussion is ongoing, however I will note:
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if you still have serious concerns." 4) This issue has been discussed on
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Now the basis for the block has shifted/changed, I see. This is a
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A curious answer. Were you not TE, I'd expect you to say "who?"
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with a completely different version. Do you understand that ? --
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for deletion, now the article has been expanded a little :-)
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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please
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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please
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You might wish to consider withdrawing the nomination of
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Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
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Central London Property Trust Ltd v High Trees House Ltd
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if you still have serious concerns." Please unblock.
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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an
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Index

Francium12
talk
21:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Chidel
talk
22:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Central London Property Trust Ltd v High Trees House Ltd
Francium12
talk
22:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Chidel
talk
22:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Douglas v Hello!
Francium12
talk
12:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Fyunck(click)
talk
05:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Fyunck(click)
talk
22:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Consensus
User:Chrishomingtang
featured list candidates
Don Lope
talk
11:01, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Chidel

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