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As I've said duly source content is content, negative or otherwise. You're making yourself the "negative" police when you don't have the authority. From what you just said you sound like a single purpose account, being a "negative" police that is. What you're doing is a dis service to the wikipedia
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where you can discuss. I don't think it is necessary to add the rape claims at multiple locations, in fact I know it is not, please don't replace it without support for your addition .
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