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name back after the divorce is granted. In this case, the plot of the film goes in the other direction with Gaga growing up with her father as the single parent and not her mother. With reliable cites going with Ally
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of the article. It is particularly important that a number of statements about his personal life are cited. To fully cite the article is going to require hours of work, but until this is done there is no chance the article will pass a GA review. This shouldn't prevent you from seeking a Peer Review as the citations are found.
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No worries; thanks for adding the missing citations, I usually point out such problems, especially for an FAC nom. The film sounds like fun but II haven't seen it. I'll pass on further development of the article – I'm more of a fixer than a content developer – but thanks for asking and good luck with
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I think that this is the best way to resolve the issues we have discussed-debated on this article; AfD is a fair process in my view (I spend plenty of time on it), and it is a good way to get other editors (and admins) engaged and feeding back on the situation regarding the article. We will see what
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That was really nice of you to do those. All the cite templates I found are now taken care of for the benefit of other readers. If you have seen this film or would like to do further abridgements of some of the long quotes, or add explanations for them, then it would be nice to see your additions to
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Thanks for getting back on this. I am replacing the citations with one from People magazine with links, usually this is taken as a reliable source. I have seen photographs of her with her daughter, and possibly adding this to her article might help further. I think the People magazine citation works
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is overall a trustworthy source, they also don't have any discernible basis for "Campana". As for mothers' maiden names, it is true that doesn't happen much outside of cases where the mother has full custody or the child has a poor/strained relationship with the father, but you still shouldn't be so
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Again, the film doesn't at any point call her by that last name, not even during the credits where she's just listed as "Ally". That was the bigger point I'm trying to make and you seem to be missing. I also have no recollection of anybody in the movie calling Ally's father "Campana" either nor any
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There are two links in that tab; one is on the year designation when you scroll your mouse over it which gives the reference info, and the other is linked over the author name when you click on it and get the full article. It should work if you click on it, and let me know if there are other links
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You can't just presume one automatically shares their father's last name. Children can sometimes have their mother's last names instead even outside of cases where a father and/or child changes a last name for non-marriage purposes. Also, Ally is never at any point referred to with that last name,
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Its looking pretty good to me. Did you have a chance to see if mentioning the year "2001" in the closing sentence of the plot is possible? Otherwise it looks like the harvard cites of
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quick to just assume a child will automatically have their father's last name when he has any custody. Parents and children can theoretically have their last names legally changed to something completely unconnected to their families so I wouldn't rule that out.
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I hadn't seen those pieces before, though they seem to be pulling that name out of nowhere when the film doesn't use it for her at all.
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