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anonymous user with an IP address out of Italy. At first, the person removed one individual's name. Then it was a few names followed by a minor editing war (more of a skirmish). The most recent attack, again from Italy (most likely a dynamic IP address) deleted an entire paragraph; which was reversed. The response was deletion and the alteration of a persons name written in chinese characters turning the name into an insult and its meaning. These are the finer points that you are not aware of which prompted the request. The hope is to semi-protect the page in order to reduce the potential for destructive behavior, not useful additions. Thank you for your opinion, however, it is based on an uninformed foundation. I am copying this entire response to place on your talk page for easy reference.
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exemplify Choy Li Fut stances, forms or techniques are poor representations of the art. Further, your destructive editing of the Wong, Doc-Fai page is inexcusable. The ignorance of the person(s) editing that page make ridiculous claims stating a certificate of doctorate in TCM is a business license. Clearly the person making that statement has no knowledge of what a business license in California looks like. Please cease and desist your destructive and dishonest edits. If you wish to make a valid statement, sign up, get a UserName and talk with me on my Talk Page. Thank you
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page has now been reverted. You should stop vandalising this page. You question the legitimacy that Niel Willcott was a direct student of Chan Sun Chou, even when there are photos to prove this. Photos I did not add. This sentence and image has been up on the CLF page now for over a year and only you
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I would decline the request for protection because protection, even semiprotection, is akin to blocking users; it prevents anonymous users from making potentially good edits. While vandalism can be reverted and vandals blocked within seconds, good contributions are not so easily recovered. Therefore,
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I would urge you to investigate the evidence on site. It has quite an impact on ones understanding of the relationships. The ancient carvings in stone of the eight pieces of brocade and moves still seen in the 18 Lohan movements. So I have a better understanding, are you suggesting that the monks had
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code, otherwise someone could be adding 'information' that cannot be verified. Note that the tags I added each refer to one section, not the whole article. The tags are not saying that the article (as a whole) has no references or has poor references, just that certain sections need more references.
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I couldn't figure out how to do multiple references to the same source until you sent me the info. I tried to do it, but the wiki kept giving me errors. I found out that you have to give the original reference a number first, then you can use it later. I will give it a try again today. Thanks!
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The information that has been posted by you under an IP address without a UserName has consistently been an attempt to promote your own or your own teachers false statements. They are misleading and disreputable. You cause confusion and demean the art of Choy Li Fut. The photos posted meant to
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You might like to try the procedure above on the article; be sure to edit the entire article when you try this the first time (not just a section), so that when you preview your changes, it will show the updated reference list. If you are unsure about anything, feel welcome to post here again.
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protection to blocking, because they serve more or less the same purpose: preventing a user or users/IPs from editing. Whenever an administrator considers a request for protection, they must weigh the potential for good edits being prevented against vandals being impeded. For this reason, only
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For clarification, the request is not to "block" anyone, but to make the editor accountable. Positive and useful information is always welcome. The situation with this particular page is there has been a strident effort to make it neutral and complete. However, it has been attacked recently by
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I think we all need to help REAL vandalism. My philosophy is rather to semi-protect the page for a short time to verify and hold the vandal responsible. I feel that letting it start in the first place is just an open invitation to allow it to get more
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This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on
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There is no historical evidence that Bodhidharma had any connection to Shaolin martial arts. In fact, prior to the 17th century, the monks worshiped the Buddhist-Guardian deity Vajrapani as the progenitor of their martial skills. Check out
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Thanks for your note; good to know the information has been of help. All the best for your work on improving the article. I think that with sufficient referencing and a bit of copy-editing, it should be ready for assessment for C class.
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keep taking it down. Perhaps if you have some evidence to prove that Niel wasn't in China and didn't know Chan Sun Chou you should present it. Could you also clear up what is meant by "passing off" you keep referencing this?
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Please do not remove copyvio tags and leave the copyright material. Even with your citations it was still copyright from a website. I've stripped the lead down, please do not restore the copyright material. Thanks.
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states Bodhidharma left behind two training manuals that were discovered after his death. The legend of him teaching the monks physical exercises did not come about until the early 20th century. --
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Thanks for your message, Clftruthseeking. Essentially, any time there is a significant amount of text or a significant statement made, there should be an in-line reference using the
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Prof. Meir Shahar and countless other scholars--Western, Chinese, and Japanese--have thoroughly disproven Bodhidharma's connections to Shaolin martial arts via study of
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Your deletion of information on the Choy Li Fut page has now been reverted. You should stop vandalising this page. If you have issue with this please talk with me.
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Your deletion of information on the Choy Li Fut page has now been reverted. You should stop vandalising this page. If you have issue with this please talk with me.
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developed these forms solely from their adoration of Vajrapani? I try to remain open to new information, but to discount the legend/myth of Bodhidarma seems extreme.
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Your deletion of information on the Choy Li Fut page has now been reverted. You should stop vandalising this page. If you have issue with this please talk with me.
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If those references are already in the reference list, it is easy to use them more than once (across multiple locations) in the same article. Here is how to do it:
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I have made extensive changes to the lead and reincorporated them into the article. Please let me know if this meets the Wiki requirements. Thank you.
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One thing you have to be careful about, of course, is that you do not give two different references the same ref name.
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You need to give a name to the reference the first time you cite it in the article, using
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Thank you. I hope the next time we cross paths, it is in a joint effort to stop vandalism.
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That is surprising. Have you traveled to the Shaolin temple near Deng Feng, China?
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