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I put up the jacket flap copy for "Wednesday is Indigo Blue." I have 5 books with MIT Press, and they grant me the right to use all material for whatever purpose I wish, so I didn't think that was a CV (I'm slowly getting the hang of these Wiki abbreviations). When that kerfuffle arose, I deleted it
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Scarpy: I'm not sure how to reply, even after having checked the help page. This Wiki coding is alien to me. Glad you found me. What synesthesia publications did you find in 2006? If you haven't already gotten it, please do read "Wednesday is Indigo Blue: Discovering the Brain of
Synesthesia." It
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No, the Oliver Sacks quote you pointed to is from the MIT Website and i generally added as a jacket blurb. The quote I gave you is from Sack's book, "Musicophilia," where he discusses my work and calls it "pioneering." I thought it would be a good third-party verifiable source to mollify the
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and then later was working on a modeling project attempting to show a relationship between frequency of a letter associated with a color and the coloring of letters/words in grapheme-color synesthesia, but I never completed it (the idea is more or less
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