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list of oligarchs (control of media- resources, influence on state bodies, etc.). Next "Former" - see the link to the football club page. The club no longer exists, hence the "former
President". According to Forbes store (2009) - I was wrong - really rated Sergey Taruta had such wealth, but as of 2008.
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The idea that you would dispute objective biographical information and entirely neutral facts that come directly from the subject is unsettling at best. It suggests you are more interested in maintaining control over the page rather than ensuring it is as objective and accurate as possible. I have no
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DammitKevin you repeated several times the assertion that the
Facebook page isn't "notable". This is not valid analysis -- the concept of "notable" is not relevant when we ask if a source is reliable. Again I really appreciate you wanting to help - and raising this up for discussion was great, but
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It isn't applicable because the policy you link to says nothing about making sources notable. I am not the only one to remove your edits because they are written in a promotional way - you keep linking to the facebook page in multiple places in each edit. I don't care about your petty insults I care
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I hope you will reconsider. Biographies of Living People are very powerful, and people should have more control over the content. No matter the delivery system, if someone verbally says on camera something is true or not and it's a news article, that's a citation. It should be allowed. And the paid
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Hello, I'm Igor. I want to explain the changes that I suggest. The word "oligarch" with reference to the article "Ukrainian oligarchs" can not be applied, because in that article on the list of oligarchs, Sergey Taruta is absent and, moreover, never met the criteria that are used to fall into the
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That doesn't in any way make a facebook page notable and it deals with article subjects themselves desiring to edit their own pages. Unless you are claiming to be T.J. Miller that guideline doesn't apply to you or to the facebook page you keep trying to add. And you still didn't answer my second
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I don't think I have done anything wrong here, but your comment above is quite menacing and makes me think that I have. I have done a ton of work to update the entries that Josh worked on, and I am coming from a constructive and positive place. I also do BLPs quite regularly, and try to address
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Also, this series has the potential to be very positive to engaging editors. So instead of being mean to a new editor, however much it's couched in comedy, maybe a choice might be to have a sense of humor about this whole thing -- or even, god forbid, make edits to the pages and do something
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Not at all, and it's not a
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Having studied these sources - I assure you that the references to these sources are incorrect both in terms of justification "Taruta - oligarch" and in terms of the reliability of the confirmation of the word "oligarch". Please do more than two clicks and read about those
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I have nominated it for Afd usersify, the page can simply moved to the subspace of the user without any need of deletion. Also I was concerned about editor retention as the page author is a brand new user. Hope you understand, Have a lovely Day.
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Facebook page as it is not a Facebook page, it is a video, which I have no connection to. It seems you are either too myopic or lacking the ability to comprehend the rules and regulations you yourself cite. --
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Here's the link to what is now a citation -- and should resolve the paid editing thing. Again, the comedian / newbie
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By tagging these articles you are actually hurting the subject and penalizing them, when it is not the subject of the article doing anything wrong. It becomes vandalism, and is really badly done.
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Thanks for your message. The video you referenced in my edits of T.J. Miller is not promotional but a series whose sole goal is to fact check individual's
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most everything you wrote above is not supportable by on-WP diffs, and you have also added a bunch of confusion to this discussion. I will be following up with you elsewhere about that.
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It's in the history. See the "view history" tab near the top of the page? Click that and you will be able to see revisions by date. If you need any more help please let me know.
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Hello Dammitkevin, I was using that space to store text, I didn't realise it was publically viewable, any chance you can undo your undo so I can grab the text back again?
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Today Sergey Taruta is not included in the rating of billionaires. Please confirm the changes I made. thank you
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