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110:“green” was a colour that, at that time, had strong sexual connotations. When they discuss the song “Greensleeves” in their book "Women's Roles in the Renaissance, Meg Lota Brown & Kari Boyd McBride make this point citing, as an example, the use of the phase “a green gown”. In fact there are even stronger associations that have not been included in the article. James T. Henke says in his book “Courtesans and Cuckolds: a Glossary of Renaissance Dramatic Bawdy” that “green was a colour long associated with prostitution”. Finally (and at last moving into the area of fashion!) you may be interested to know that in a few countries around that time – France was one – prostitutes were required by law to wear bands / ties on their sleeves so that they could be identified. However, while it’s clearly within a similar area of reference nobody has yet made a direct link between this and “Greensleeves”. 445:

think it's ridiculous that the government has accused him of anti-trust, when people are perfecty free to use alternatives like Apple, Linux, Unix, etc. It's also ridicluous that the government thinks it's wrong that he gives his web browser away for free, when all the other companies that give their web browsers away for free, such as Firefox, don't get criticized for it. I don't have anything against Bill Gates at all. I think he's a great guy, and I wish there were thousands more entrepreneurs who were like him. I put the mugshot there as a joke, and nothing more. There was no ill will intended.

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case in the 16th/17th century as class was king and the suggestion of nobility would not be throw around carelessly. "Sleeves" as it were, do not mean "green gown" as stated in the article in the original article. The reader currently believes that the song is referring to a whore-ish courtesan when in fact and yes, it is fact, that by referring to her sleeves does not refer to her gown the two were NOT inter changable as they are now described in the article. Fashion was largely dominated by the upper classes ONLY. (

402:, I think, that of the two, "myth" appears to be the better fit. However, I don't have any reference works, nor does there appear to be anything that would be classified as reliable on Google, about Greensleaves to indicate or source either one. There is a reference at the end of that section and it may be able to clear it up. Having said that, I really don't think that either word fits properly. I think that the word "belief" would be more correct in the sentence. 760:

seem that some form of editorial decision had been made prior to inclusion, which always smacks of personal slant. I am a believer in letting the reader make their mind up, having been able to read all the available and accurately sourced material. It is after all not a printed encyclopaedia, but a living, organic, work-in-progress. But I will happily stop titivating with the article, if you want. Incidentally, the pap photos that are referred to can be seen at

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readers who read the page in that state. But writing a Knowledge (XXG) article is not as simple as throwing information onto the page as quickly as you can find it. The difference between a Knowledge (XXG) article and a blog or ragtop magazine article is that we take pride in asserting the verifiability of the information we provide: readers should know that the information we provide is correct not just 'because we say so', but because we can show that

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valid is the use of the word to describe a woman with whom a man is romantically or sexually involved. Invariably the use is done by the man himself - i.e. "my lady". Given that the first lines of the song are “Alas, my love” it's clear that it's this final meaning that is being used. If she existed "Lady Greensleeves" may have been noble - we'll never know - but the song is actually about love and it's various complications, not nobility.

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My own view is that the area you are dealing with will be extremely well policed by many fans and any errors / vandalism will be corrected very quickly. Can I suggest you monitor the edits you've just removed and if they subsequently prove to be correct you amend your approach to more of a careful watching brief? Better still do what you did with me - query where the information came from. Thanks

899: 650:"the team are fighting among themselves" (notional agreement) refers to the team as individuals." I would argue that the batting team here is referred to more as a collective whole than as the sum of its parts. Certainly you're the native speaker of British English here and I'm not trying to impose my view. I'm simply pointing out what I perceive as being inconsistencies. 1058:, this is a fundamental content policy. To quote from that policy, the required threshold for inclusion is "verifiability, not truth". It makes absolutely no difference whether the information is correct, accidentally wrong or a deliberate misconstruction, it matters only that a reliable secondary source can be found to support it. It is within the discression of 645:. Specifically you changed "When the team that is batting has used all its available overs" back to "When the team that are batting have used all its available overs". First of all, assuming the latter is the correct use, it should probably be "their available overs" rather than "its available overs". Secondly the Knowledge (XXG) page on 857:: If I agree and you agree and TeaHot agrees with some tweaking and Mark7144 perhaps having some concerns, but not disagreeing; that is not just one editor, is it? :-) The point of the section is to pull together the common ground identified in the RfC and so if constructed with that in mind, it will not ever be a single editor. -- 1066:

What you have done, by readding those of the facts that can be verified by reliable sources, is exactly correct. Those facts can now be verified: there is a link to an external source that supports the statement. If someone wants to change the fact in the article, they are now required to provide an

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Hi. I appreciate you're an Administrator etc. and verifiability is obviously important. However, our previous conversation has already proved to me that you're not as in touch with this subject as others (not a criticism, just a statement of fact) and what you see fit to remove may well be correct.

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Hi, I understand where you are coming from, but I am merely following on the line of the originator of the article (User:Andreasegde) who I have been in extensive correspondence with. My personal view is that I would far rather have too much (accurate) information than too little, which would make it

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This edit is characteristic of those you have been making recently and I am concerned at the extent to which you have been including very specialised detail within this article. If you haven't already done so, I would advise you to read WP:DIRECTORY #6. My own view is that the article should present

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Hi - thanks for the note, I've actually been meaning to contact you myself regarding some of your recent edits on the Heather Mills page. As I explained (briefly) I undid your edit simply because there was no reference in either of the two listed references (158, 195) to the paparazzi. I appreciate

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However, it's all somewhat academic as I see that another user has since changed the structure of the sentence and in so doing, reverted back to the singular, rather than the plural. So, it would appear that your original approach has been adopted. Given your post here, I won't revert again; I sense

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Thanks for the post Elostirion. I made the change based on information from the Cambridge Dictionaries, which, fortunately, gave an example actually using the word "team" ("The team are playing in the test matches next week."), and outlined the differences between American English and British English

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Allow me to point out the obvious: that link has got nothing whatsoever to do with Cilla Black. At no point in the article does it even mention Cilla Black's name, let alone the fact that she might have been the previous record holder!! It's fine in an article about Alexandra Burke but it serves no

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should follow whatever the agreement was about stating that in the lead. I saw something on it somewhere but I forget. Again, should probably be cited and the awards listed. If I was to assume bad faith I would think that it may be someone who didn't like what the consensus was with listing awards in

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Thanks for contacting me. The edits I made (however many years ago) are all from historical authorities. There are others that I could have called on to substantiate the point even further. I'm not sure where the other editor is coming from, particularly with the "defamatory" charge which I don't

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editor, not just administrators, to rewrite articles such that they do not make such unsupported claims. When I saw the dances being added, it was against my better judgement that I left them there at all without supporting sources. When I saw them being edited back and forth their position became

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Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. Although I personally would prefer more summary, less detail - it is just a personal viewpoint. My best advice is if others start to say the same thing then maybe a different approach is required. In the meantime, you're the one editing it. Thanks again.

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I see there is an IP editor reverting as well; although I AGF, neither do I rule out this being Xerocrist logging out to evade scrutiny and/or the 3RR rule, and have left a not to this effect on the IP's talk page. Meanwhile you are nowhere near 3RR yourself, and can safely revert for now until this

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states that "In British English, it is generally accepted that collective nouns can take either singular or plural verb forms depending on the context and the metonymic shift that it implies. For example, "the team is in the dressing room" (formal agreement) refers to the team as an ensemble, whilst

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As a fashion major at Parsons New School - I am unclear as to why you undid my post. The current article is calling "lady greensleeves" promiscuous and it is clearly evident that she was not a common whore. mainly because she is referred to as "Lady". Be she a prostitute that would have not been the

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I could not tell truth from fiction in the bottom and top dif. What I could see amounted to very little that someone who knows about SCD could not simply reinstate (as you did) and my edit summary was clear. The style violation takes some time to resolve and on this occasion only it seemed sensible

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Secondly, contrary to what you're saying here, I didn't replace the source (BBC vs fan site). I did include a link in my explanation as further supporting evidence that there was at least one other single that had outsold Cilla Black - but I limited it to just that; it's not included on the page. I

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Firstly, this was the "unsourced comment" on the page I removed. "Establishing a record that is unlikely to be broken, Cilla's version of the song remained the top selling single of all time by a British female artist for 45 years until January 2009, when it was overtaken by Alexandra Burke's chart

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It's interesting that you removed an unsourced comment from the Cilla Black page. Originally, there was a source for this note, taken from the BBC News. However, YOU deleted that source! You replaced it with a quote from some fan Internet site. BBC vs Fan Internet. Mmmmmmm. I know which one I think

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Your post tried to do two things. Firstly, it tried to refute some of the content that was already on the page – and yet the particular content you chose to question was already verified by references to existing academic works. Secondly, your post tried to put forward an alternative explanation

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Hi. I wasn't trying to embarrass or humiliate anyone. Gates had a sense of humor to use that photo in the ad. I appreacite humor like that. And for the record, I'm a libertarian, and I think Bill Gates is a hero of entrepreneurship, capitalism, wealth creation, job creation, and private charity. I

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The second point that concerns you is the use of the word “lady”. This is easier to explain. While “lady” definitely means someone of nobility / superior social position, it’s not the only meaning. Equally common is the use of the word as a formal term to describe a woman (any woman). Just as

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Thanks for the information on the two international Emmys. Shocked at the BBC having wrong information (though now that i look at the page it hasn't been updated in a while). Just remove the two international Emmys from the lede. My username is in homage to the general.. alas someone had already

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before you ridicule other editors actions. This style guide is violated many times a week by flyby Ips and others. Perhaps if other editors considered the whole article instead of just entering unsourced details about this week’s upcoming dances, there would be no need for such radical measures.

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So it is not a question of my approach assuming that the facts were erroneous, and hence that it can be proved wrong if they can be proved right. I will be delighted if the original facts prove correct, as it means that Knowledge (XXG)'s verifiability and accuracy was not compromised to the many

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If by "not as in touch... as others" you mean I watch the show a day late because I'm busy on Saturday nights, then yes. If you mean that I am lacking a psychic power that others have to make details of future shows common knowledge, then that is not good enough. All material on Knowledge (XXG)

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David, not sure what we can do about this without wider community involvement. I have not seen the book so I don't know how reliable it is, but we certainly have a number of IPs (probably the same person or group of people) intent on keeping the book as a reference. As we seem to be at an impasse

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Well, that certainly put the HOF in their place - personally I would have thought they might have trusted the content of their website to someone other than a summer temp but obviously you know better. I'm still troubled by the (relatively) bad English in what is such a famous quote so I'll dig

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There are two points that obviously concern you - the first of which is the gown/sleeves issue. Nobody is confusing a gown with sleeves – they’re obviously different things. The reference to a “gown” in the article is not used in connection with fashion – it’s used in regard to the claim that

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Many years ago you added some referenced content and cites about the origin/meaning of this color. Today, another editor has stated that it is not valid WP content and instead replaced it with different (unreferenced but logically explained) content. Would be great if you could comment on this

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I'm sorry but Experts have said can't prove Henry VIII didn't write it and since Henry VIII is the only name they have as the composers name and its been known by most people for 500 years that Henry VIII wrote it which is longdetivity. The story goes that Henry wrote it to woo Anne Boleyn so

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what you're saying above, but that's an assumption; the photo might have been taken by a member of the public and mailed in. Additionally, I should point out that neither of the two listed references talk about a photographer or have a picture of Heather Mills and Mark Sinden together.

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Hi Krefts, thanks for your post. I deleted it for two reasons - firstly it gave the impression that was an official way of counting Olympic medals. This was because of the way you had written the post - "The alternative approach to measure the succes of respective nation is to

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lot of attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few progressive rock music pages into the front ranks of Knowledge (XXG) articles. Thanks!

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includes a very similar example: "Ex- (and former): be careful. A Communist ex-member has lost his seat; an ex-Communist member has lost his party." An American ex-skater is an American who no longer skates; but an ex-American skater is a skater who is no longer American.

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for the song, but failed to support that explanation with external references. Unfortunately the whole post came across very much as personal opinion. If that is the case, then the best place to have posted it would have been in the discussion section of the article.

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Hi, David T Tokyo! There is a category which is being discussed for deletion which I see great use in. It is: Category:Musicians who have served in the military. I wonder if you would check it out, and offer your opinion, either way, "Keep" or "Delete",

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I am glad, that you have no objecton to this table bein in Knowledge (XXG), and I can agree wiht your suggestions how to put it. On the other hand, thare are many other people on wikipedia, who will always delete such table (see discussion in my page:

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Sigh. Yes it must be exhausting for you having to patronise and belittle other wiki editors. The agony for you must be extreme. And if you want to post to my talk page and remove MY deletes from MY page, I would expect the same courtesy in return.

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I agree, that calculating the number of olimpic medal of respective nation per million of inhabitants is not an official way of counting. But I can not understand why you think, that there is no place for such calculation anywhere in wikipedia?

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I have a suggestion for you to consider. In future, rather than reverting edits on the assumption that if they're not verified they must be wrong, why not do what it took me all of 5 minutes to do - see if you can find the necessary references

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It would be a Myth if they had no idea who wrote it, but they have the idea that Henry VIII wrote it although they may not be able to prove it. The long affiliation with Henry VIII I say would count it as a Legend and not a myth

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say so. That's why the countless blogs around the internet are just countless, while we are the world's most popular source of information. The goal of every editor, admin or not, is to protect and build upon that reputation.

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untenable: one or other of the set of 'facts' is manifestly incorrect, but without citations it is impossible to say which one. As such, the only acceptable course of action is to remove the content entirely.

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I have no objections to this table being in Knowledge (XXG) - it is of interest to some - but on reflection I think it should just be a link at the bottom of the main table without any supporting text i.e.

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Yet, David won't accept the fact that Jethro Tull do qualify as an LGBT musical group despite Dee Palmer's leaving of the band as an official member. She has still worked with them for years. Go figure.

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The decision of the discussion was delete, which I'm totally fine with. I am sorry it got nasty there with the accusations. But it was a healthy debate on your part. Thanks for your contributions. :-)

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Hi, David! I see that Jennifer won the GLAAD media award. But she's not known for her LGBT activism at all, and the GLAAD award is the only mention in the article. The category is for people like

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The link you give brings up notes that could have been written by an intern or someone with a summer job. This is such a famous quote that THE BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN READER and the Springsteen database

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situation. My talkpage has his explanation of his changes and also my response to them, but we could just as well copy that to the article talk page if you prefer to centralize it.

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Are you sure? I was taught that an 'and' was a comma and should always be treated as such. (Not that this is going to cure cancer or end world poverty, but it's interesting!)

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is more reliable. It's a bit rich to be deleting reliable sources and replacing them with unreliable ones. I'll probably be banned now for daring to cross you. C'est la vie.

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I don't usually worry about the big picture, preferring to remove unsourced or unexplained changes on sight. By the time the implications come in I am usually playing

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is sorted out. It's the 4th revert in 24 hours that makes 3RR kick in, although that doesn't rule out sanctions for edit-warring- on that, you are OK for now. Cheers.

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Do you actually believe that removing an irreplaceable, historically valuable image from an article (based on your own opinion) is warranted? Explain, please...

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You just need to look at the article for proof that Greensleaves is 500 years old and also enclosed in that article is no composer name except for Henry VIII

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Hi Stilettoarmy. The reason I undid your post on the “Greensleeves” page was (as I stated) because it didn’t include any references – i.e. it was unsourced.

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and if you look at the shots taken of them they are most certainly "unaware"... I think that this warrants the inclusion of the word paparazzi, don't you?

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Jimi was arrested on May, 3, 1969 in Toronto, Canada - and this official booking photo verifies it. Your choice to delete this image (because he was

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0142003549/ref=sib_dp_srch_pop?v=search-inside&keywords=rock+and+roll+future&go.x=14&go.y=9&go=Go%21#

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Greetings ... there seems to be some disagreement on whether there should be a section of references to previous Disney films in the article for

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equally good source for the new statement; the expectation is that if the original fact is correct, it will not be possible for them to do so.

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I noted your oblique edit summary attack on my reverting several edits in order to get back to a safe version. You should be aware of this

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of the charges?!?) may demonstrate a fundamental lack of understanding of the purpose of WP's educational goal in general. Good luck...

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I have written an email to the french consultate in L.A. and so far I did not receive any answer. Even not a receipt acknowledgment. --

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The point you're missing is that "former" modifies only "figure skater", not "Tonya Harding", or "American". The Economist's style guide

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Thanks for leaving the note on my page. My edit comment wasn't aimed at you specifically, but was certainly written out of frustration.

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This may sound like quibbling over details (and I suppose it is) but I have some reservations about a recent reversion you have made on

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for instance is odd. It's true that long-running is an opinion but it's not very controversial. Probably should be cited. Others like

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around more. In the meantime I'll reverse my previous edits based on your full-blooded faith in THE BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN READER.

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purpose whatsoever in an article about Cilla Black. That being the case, I therefore removed both the link and the comment.

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I'm not asking for Henry VII to be officially recognised as the composer, I'm just asking for it to be classed as a legend

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I was dubious and checked many. Here's how it appears in RACING IN THE STREETS: THE BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN READER (2004):

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shows that you both have made three reverts to the article. Either stop or you you may be blocked for violation of

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Deleting accurate information is every bit as much a problem as deleting false information. JMO, of course

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Once again, thanks for contacting me and pointing out what you perceived as (and what were) inconsistencies.

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on this issue. You're absolutely correct on the issue of "their" and "its", it should have been "their".

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get at all, but he/she is flat-out wrong. Either that or all the historical authorities are wrong.

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this is a grammatically grey area and those kinds of edits invariably lead to trouble here on Wiki.

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Hi, may I take issue you with you on your recent 'undo'. I refer you to Wikis own definition:

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so that we can discuss instead of revert over and over. Thanks, and hope you can join in! --

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request I looked to see which word would be a better fit. After reading through both

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Hi! Just wanted to say thanks for digging up that TAAB quote!

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Hi David. Yes, that wouldn't surprise me! All the best. --

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