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found in a vast territory (more or less un to ski slopes of the
Cairngorm, so much so that the herd took over the plants a few weeks ago) in this case, the reindeer are completely wild and the online food they eat is the lichen they find and wrap the food that someone who meets the pack gives them. I hope I explained myself.
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I think it's quite reasonable to use the term 'semi-domesticated' about the
Scottish reindeer population, though I see no evidence in the sources I have checked of the species having been actively 'extirpated' - just simple extinction from Britain following amelioration of the climate at the end of
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The taxonomy section of this page contained 2 links to subpages about 2 subspecies ever since I overhauled the latter subpages in late 2018. During the review for good article status of the sand cat page in 2020, the reviewer did NOT criticise the presence of these 2 links, so they were kept. YOU,
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page of the site and you can ask what you want, I've already done it several times) and second I invite you to look at the
Scottish tourist board in which they explain well that reindeer are absolutely free to graze. I agree with you that in 1952 the first reindeer were semi-domesticated, but it's
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You’ve probably only read where it says that some reindeer are locked up in an enclosure near a cottage. In that case it is true, those reindeer are semi-domesticated and what you said happens (them alosa give them a mix of cereals), but we are talking a few specimiens! All the other reindeer are
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Whilst I don't want to see either you or Ddum5347 edit-warring over this (especially as the latter is aware of the risks of so-doing) but I have to side squarely with Ddum's general view on using the term 'semi-domesticated'. You could both do with citing proper sources, not a commercial website.
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says the herd is free-ranging and the animals "tame and friendly". The FAQS section says "We also feed them a carefully balanced cereal-based supplementary feed" and that adult males are "are trained to pull a sleigh". They also refer to "management of breeding" and their staff being qualified
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Starting from the fact that this herd is completely autonomous, as they feed themselves and not with human help, I don't know where you read the fact that this herd of reindeer is semi-domesticated, because in the source it says nothing of everything what. In addition, I inform you that these
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the Ice Age, followed by the 1952 reintroduction. However, I can imagine it could well have been hunted to extinction, in which case 'extirpation' would then be a valid term to use. That would require a valid source, of course. Hoping this will stop your bickering.
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reindeer graze in an area of ​​approximately 10,000 acres in the middle of the
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Then why didn't you even answer to my new reference is from
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Funny how you say that, but you are on an IP. And accusing me of ownership is one thing, but selfish is something else. Those sources included for the whales are the only ones for those species, and even then they aren't a
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