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And you are doing a wonderful job as usual. I am sure that you will eventually get a good grip on it, but I'm afraid I don't have the kind of time it takes to deal with QuackGuru's loving little soul. If the bar for the inclusion criteria ever sinks so low as to include chiropractic, a profession
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