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an absurd claim. This is one of the oldest
Shaolin-based systems. It has vey complex moves and varied applications and techniques. You are using a straw man argument by claiming that a single book which was purposed to claim martial arts originated in India has debunked the Shaolin claims. The fact is that the Shaolin was one of the first MA systems developed in order to train many people over an extended period of time. The fact that you state this is an insignificant style of kung fu reveals that you have a limited understanding of and exposure to the martial arts. As a result of your statements it appears that you may have ulterior motives to damage this page and its contents.
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quarrel with you over this, and ask you to leave the article reference as it is. Clearly, the author is knowledgeable and credible, and the original
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Hi! Thanks for editing this article. It's good to see these articles being edited in
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I'm not too familiar with the coat of plates, but the description from the article makes it sound like the plates have to be inside the garment (like brigandine), not visible on the outside like the typical
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one of the first martial arts systems by any stretch of the imagination. Chinese martial arts are documented as far back as the Zhou dynasty. Martial arts training systems have existed for all of recorded human history. Did the swordsmen and archers of the
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Hi, Tommy. Thanks for dropping by. The fact that is being referenced has plenty of other cites. I want to add that I do not disagree with the statement itself. However, the article is just a fluff piece for an event at the
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I provided examples from the article that were obviously peacock terms (I did not say "pea cocking", so I don't know why you have that in quotes -- do you know what quotation marks mean?). The phrase "like all great martial artists" is very much in the vein of the example given in
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I do not doubt that it has complex moves and techniques. I never said otherwise. So why are you bringing that up at all? You seem to think I am attacking Choy Li Fut. I am not. I am criticizing the
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