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you. Regarding the quiz: I'm not sure that we should create versions of it. Firstly, creating your own quiz can be a good exercise for the recruiters as well. Secondly, we don't want the answer key to get out, although I'm sure that if a participant really wanted to cheat and find the answers, he or she could. If we create the quiz, perhaps we can make it available only by request, through email. We could say, "We recommend that you create your own quiz, but if you need assistance and would like a sample quiz, please contact the coordinators through email." I looked at a few other recruiters' quizzes this week, and found a wide variety. My quiz, for example, is fairly easy and is only 7 questions long. I set it up that way because I think all we want to do is to ensure that recruitrees have at least read the GA criteria. Other recruiters had up to 20, but if that's the way they wanted to handle it, that's up to them. Different recruiters will stress different aspects of reviewing articles.
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line of information, one that I believe is rather important in the timeline of Falcon's Fury and it's delay, which the last line is regarding a statement from April 28th. The information I entered into the article is real and correct and I am in no way trying to vandalize the article in any shape or form. I want to help out in this part of the community. Please respond back to this message, as I believe we can both benefit if we resolve this properly. Thank you. -WikiUO99
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Hey Dom, I've taken a few days to think about "taking over" the Centre from you, but I'm still undecided. I'm such a Libra! ;) Anyway, I think that it's a worthwhile project, with potential to help mentor editors to become better GA reviewers, since as I'm sure you've also noticed, the quality of GA
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To Dom497 In regards to the Falcon's Fury article. Hello, I have noticed that you keep reverting back my changes I have made to the Falcon's Fury article. I understand the first time you did so as I did not properly cite it and you removed it in good faith. However, today I went back and added a new
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I nominated it per what has been happening for several years. It's happened with pretty much every roller coaster that has had concept art released. Concept art is uploaded, roller coaster opens and concept art gets deleted. Also, per the deletion criteria: "...illustrates a subject for which a free
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Hey Dom, do you know where the push is coming from for deleting track layout images? A photograph of the track doesn't provide a good replacement, as least to me, since the track can be better seen as a drawing that these images provide. Also, the drawings are more compact providing a unique look at
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Hey WikiUO99! I no way was I trying to say that you were vandalizing the article. I did add information regarding the recent press release in the paragraph above a few days ago and I will admit I didn't word it the best. I've re-worded it to make things a bit more clear. Sorry for the confusion. :)
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I help out with the newsletter (I used to help out with the WP Good
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than what was when we started. There is no way this drive was remotely successful. If you really still feel like you should donate, your donation would be $ 5.30 (US). It's good to see that something I've started is still going on well (I started the AfC backlog drives). And just as an FYI, I will
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Ok, here we go. You probably haven't noticed what has happened over the past 2 drives. Both were a result of me trying to revive the drives. The first drive was a good success (but still not great) and the 2nd drive was an absolute failure. Setting up a drive and figuring out how to run it (rules,
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Ok, I think one thing I'm going to do is make 2 or 3 versions of the "quiz" that I previously asked recruiters to create. This will make it a bit less stressful on the recruiters side and will ensure consistency. I also think I could make a couple more minor changes. I will create a page under my
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Ok, lets get this thing rolling. First question, what are your ideas? Second question, how exactly would having a newsletter have an impact on participants (sorry, I'm not seeing what your seeing). Other than that, I can see where you stand. I do know coding but only Java and not a very complex
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I took a quick look at the article and the review and the review looks pretty good (I don't have time to do a full out review). Whenever I review an article, I always put it on hold rather than just failing it. Hopefully, the nominator actually put some effort into getting the article to the GA
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I am very busy at school right now so I will address this hopefully in the next week. After a quick read-through, I like your view overall but I will discuss further later. Sorry. (oh, and I'm perfectly fine with being co-coordinators with
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I'm not shocked at all; I remember reading on your user page that you were still in high school. As my dear departed mother would say, "You're such a remarkable young man." ;) Good luck with all your tests! 06:05, 10 May 2014
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and there are no archives of it. The file had some info that I think would be useful to include in an article so I was wondering if it could be used as a reference.--
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