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which I have now quoted (with a footnote) in the first sentence of the WP article. Its second paragraph contains an excellent explanation of why the "Instant Scan technology" feature added in Retrospect Mac 10 is of real benefit to "larger networks, or installations with very large amounts of data to back up"; I have now also footnoted that source in the appropriate paragraph of the "Retrospect Macintosh 10 and Retrospect Windows 8" section of the WP article. The same author also wrote a TidBITS article in 2016 on Retrospect Mac 13; it merely repeats Retrospect Inc.'s announcement of new "Cloud Backup" and "Performance-Optimized Grooming" features, so I won't bother to footnote it in the WP article—I'm awaiting a further TidBITS review that will

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bias and lack of articles on German cryptographic folk during world war 2. Then I started on medical biographies. Not in a 1000 years did I think I going to write dozens of bio articles on German military folk, German cryptographic machines and procedures or British doctors. For medical biographical work I struggle all the time, needing help. For the German stuff, translation is difficult. I'm not a German natural speaker, but I can read most of it and use the translations tools a lot. A good grasp of research, grammar and the capability is more important that being a expert in a particular, although that does help. There is lots of bio articles that really need work.

3023:, it is something else - perhaps for Wikibooks or some related project. You should also be aware that "explaining" policy to admins, based on your limited editing history, is arrogant and rude. At least have the courtesy to frame it as your opinion, because it absolutely is not the case that your self-serving interpretation is the One True Interpretation Of Policy™. Keep chanting the mantra: reliable, independent, secondary. Not press releases (they aren't independent). Not knowledge bases (they aren't secondary or independent). Not forums (they aren't reliable). If you don't understand whether a particular source meets the requirements you can ask at 882:

product—in 2007. EMC re-hired some of the Retrospect engineers in 2008 and put them into its newly-acquired Iomega division. Those engineers went against Iomega management and developed a greatly enhanced Retrospect Macintosh version 8 with a changed UI. The new version was shipped in 2009 in a hurry without sufficient testing, and Retrospect Macintosh customer satisfaction slipped because of the changed UI and many bugs. The new version of Retrospect was apparently canceled, and Retrospect was not officially revived until 2011 as Retrospect Mac 9—which was mostly a bug-fixed Retrospect Mac 8 with a few new features.

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process of trying to re-Google my original books.google.com URL to get the precise page number which it appeared I needed, I discovered (on page 4 of the search results) that somebody associated with the Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences has put up a 2007 version of the book—with the same slightly different title—as a .PDF. I decided to use that version as a ref instead because it is freely searchable (I may use it as a ref for other things in the article), and let Harvard's lawyers sort it out (I assume the person who put it up, in a collection of rather outdated software manuals, had gotten faculty clearance).

4618:"Consequently, by the end of January 1944, examinations by local board physicians became very cursory in nature, except for special cases. Following thorough preinduction physical examinations at Army examination stations, those accepted were returned home to await call within 90 days. Then, they were delivered to induction stations by local boards for a less extensive physical inspection after which they were inducted. The procedure was thus almost a reversal of that previously in effect on this point.11 The 1944 procedure did not change materially for the remainder of the war." 4410:"At sixteen he was acclaimed as an outstanding guitarist and was featured in a weekly radio show on station WNEW in New York City. As plans were being formulated for the show to appear on network radio, Ronny was drafted into the army shortly after his eighteenth birthday. After he was discharged from service he studied engineering under the GI Bill, during which time he played club dates and gave guitar instruction to a limited number of students. Upon completion of his engineering studies, Ronny Lee made his decision to devote his full time to the field of music." 3941:, pointing out that "... only 6 are of articles written in 2018.... The significance of 2018 is that it is the year after TidBITS sold off its business publishing mostly-Macintosh-oriented how-to books to one of its Contributing Editors—who still writes articles for the website. IMHO a website that for 14 years up through 2017 sold books it published is much more than a mere blog. The website to this day sells e-mailed subscriptions to its content, and offers an 30% discount on books published by the Contributing Editor's company." 4417:: "After the Pearl Harbor attack the STSA was further amended (December 19, 1941), extending the term of service to the duration of the war plus six months and requiring the registration of all men 18 to 64 years of age. During World War II, 49 million men were registered, 36 million classified, and 10 million inducted. 18 and 19 year olds were made liable for induction on November 13, 1942. By late 1942, the Selective Service System moved away from a national lottery to administrative selection by its more than 6,000 local boards." 4037:, it seems there were four stated reasons I was blocked. I think the first reason was out-of-date by the time it was mentioned in the ANI, the second reason was outright misrepresentation, the third reason should have been handled via article Talk page and RSN discussion that the complaining editor refused to have, and the fourth reason was an accusation of a "thought crime" that shouldn't matter so long as I don't violate the Knowledge rules. See if you find these arguments (minus the parenthesized sentences) convincing: 3360:(renamed to Alphr in 2015) since 1994; the ref is critical of Retrospect because "Agent-less backup for VMware and Hyper-V hosts is not supported so you'll have to load the client inside each VM and treat them as physical systems." My Edit Summary was "Proactive scripts are _unique_ to Retrospect—the patent expired in 2016, ref'd by SC Magazine, ; cite KissellTakeControl2.0 for Windows and Mac OS 9 clients; add KissellOnlineAppendixesBackupSoftware ref for backup server running on Mac/Windows". 4710:

guitar editor of Guitar World Magazine—for which he also wrote the Guitar Book Review column. He also started to arrange popular music for guitar, and wrote more than 40 books for various publishers. By 1964 Ronny was so occupied with writing that he began to close down his guitar store, switching to teaching students at his apartment. By 1974 he had started writing his own set of self-published guitar instruction books, based on learning principles that I

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Retrospect Macintosh 14. I'm a 76-year-old retiree who looked at the Retrospect(software) article in early October 2016, saw that it was truly a stub that IIRC was at best current as of 2005, and decided to expand it in hopes of getting other people to buy it—so that Retrospect Inc. could stay in business and add new bug-fixes and features I could use. That expansion has proved to be much more extensive than I expected, for reasons I'll discuss above.

3465:". Nobody can categorically say that and policy on promotional editing can not apply like that. It's entirely possible for mention of a unique feature of something to be promotional, just as it is entirely possible for such a thing to not be promotional - it depends on the specific example and the circumstances. If there's a disagreement, it would have to be decided on a case-by-case basis by discussion and consensus. Anyway, I hope this might help. 3443:". But Knowledge does not, and can not, work like that. It is just not possible to prescribe precisely what specific details can be added to every possible category of article. Instead, policies and guidelines regarding what is appropriate to promotion, levels of detail, encyclopedic content, etc are more generalised. When there's a disagreement whether something constitutes promotion (or unencylopedic detail or whatever), it is decided by consensus 4599:

Specialty, he would then have received 17 weeks of training before being considered ready to report to a front-line unit. By July 30, 1945, World War II had been over in Europe for nearly 3 months. After the first atomic bomb was successfully exploded at Alamogordo on July 16, and even more after atomic bombs were dropped on Japan on August 6 and 9, it was obvious that a U. S. land invasion of the main islands of Japan would not be necessary."

1675: 2347: 4493:" is absolutely correct. Maybe on the planet where you come from a talented teenager is routinely provided with a biographer, but that wasn't true in 1940s New York City. Until 1962, when Mel Bay Publications hired Ronny to write a two-volume book on playing jazz guitar, Ronny was only famous locally. Therefore any "about the author" blurbs from referenced magazine articles use information he supplied. 1714:, put several links to other articles on WP (as the Lede and History section are under-linked), which explain what the tech is, and made some general fixes. That is all. Please don't put the dodgy language back, which is from the manual. As somebody that has written more than 500+ articles, I know how to create a good article. Let the work be completed, and you can create another article somewhere else. 2275: 2202: 2106: 1603: 3075: 2844:)" as parenthetical clarifications, and deleting "Having added ..., and having started edits ...,,"—which I realized were unnecessary clauses that contributed to the "wall of text" impression Hut 8.5 complained of. Hut 8.5 is the only reader who has substantively discussed that post, and he has complained about it and misunderstood it; what's wrong with my improving it to meet his/her objections? 1178:(962 views as of early this morning) because I was the first person who had dealt with the problem that "certain tricky key concepts, such as how to do 'seeding' in 'Changing paths Cloud Mac', go by so quickly that many users have not been able to grasp them without multiple viewings." However I'm not so sure about problem (1). If—in the course of researching the WP article—I noticed an 3367:. His Edit Summary was "Reverted good faith edits by DovidBenAvraham (talk): Promotional edits, primary sourceing, usual problems (TW)". Guy had previously said that mentioning a unique feature is not a promotional edit. It seems he also may consider a reference to a patent to be a primary source, but he could have carried through on that weird view by simply deleting the ref. 3122: 633: 1882:

persistent enough to find an old version of Joe Kissell's book for which someone at Harvard had placed the unprotected .PDF on a publicly-viewable website. Since Kissell has been writing updated versions of the same book for over 10 years, I'm fine with it. It looks as if the WMF facility, using a database(s) I can't even guess at, tries to find a freely-viewable

2960:, the issue I have is that it introduces a bunch of terms that have not been used or explained (and maybe don't need to be?) such as 'granularities', 'restorable objects', 'crash-consistent' and 'logical objects'. Is there a simpler way of saying this so that the average reader can make sense of it? Does it need to be there in this particular article? Thanks 1571: 319: 4048:, showing a basic misunderstanding of Knowledge's sourcing principles: apparently you believed then, as now though with more frills, that if there are no secondary sources, that means you're justified in basing an article on primary sources." I pointed out in my 05:39, 2 December 2019 (UTC) comment in this section that in my 4303:

reasonable time for Ronny to have arrived in a U.S. Army training camp, and reference 6 says he would then have received 17 weeks of "Basic" and "Advanced Basic" training before being sent overseas as a "rifleman"—which is what reference 5 says was the most-needed Military Occupational Specialty in the spring of 1945.

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you're correct that adding an attribution would have been sufficient, probably accompanied by adding back those few citations that were in the WP article as of 10 April 2013. But then that wouldn't have showed off Sr. Damicelli's consultative brilliance to the same extent. Should I have just said nothing?

1190:? I'm also not so sure about problem (3). If—in the course of trying to figure out in mid-September 2016 how the newly-announced Retrospect Mac 13.5 handled Dropbox—I noticed an obvious missing UI step in the "Cloud Backup - How to Set Up Dropbox for Cloud Backup" Retrospect Knowledge Base article, does 4709:

It's important to understand Ronny's career arc. He learned to play from 1939 to about 1954, then became a performing musician and started a guitar studio which expanded into NYC's largest guitar store. Meanwhile he taught jazz guitar at a community college, taught at conventions, and was appointed

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So what's your alternative theory? Ronny, already a public figure by March 1945, somehow managed to avoid registration for the draft and also managed—without the GI Bill benefits only available to military veterans—to earn enough money to pay his tuition at RCA Institutes of Technology in 1947–1949?

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RSN comment of the editor about which I later filed the parent ANI was "Well that's a remarkable bit of selective reading: you choose to interpret the replies in a way that gives you permission to reinsert the trivial crap back into the article." Later, in his 07:10, 21 October 2019 (UTC) comment on

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When I started here, I wrote an article, spent several days on it, and it was deleted, the wrong project. I created a bunch of articles on Scottish villages, which were easy to do. Then I started writing about German cryptographers. This was months, I think years probably, when I noticed there was a

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If I were unblocked, could I change that? The editor who now has primary control of the article said on his personal Talk page "Remove anything that's sourced to their own websites or to press releases", and later "It's really quite simple. Only include reliable independent secondary soruces . Don't

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The wisest person of all time taught that a Chut HaMeShuLash (the latter can mean triple strength) will not quickly be undone. (source: KoHeLes/Proverbs, 4:12). Your "being a third-generation Reformed Jew" is MeShuLash. These words are to ask forgiveness regarding aggravation you felt attributable to

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Yes, you should have said nothing. Because you don’t know what you are doing, you left a misleading message on a private party’s voicemail claiming a “copyright violation“ on material which with only the most minor of adjustments, he is fully entitled to use, and caused him to take an action that he

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Describing every element of the software in detail (their locations, what they're named, not just the core features of the software and what its intended for) is indiscrimate, but maybe also dubious on copyright. Large amounts of sections are based on one or few (primary) sources. Most of the article

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FYI, the Differences Between Revisions for the article includes: Revision as of 20:50, 11 October 2015 edit undo DovidBenAvraham (talk | contribs) →‎Early Years: Insert prgf. outlining why RL would have been unlikely to be sent overseas (he told me he wasn't). So in October 2015 I still remembered—6

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I'm sorry to see you were blocked Dovid. I would like to see you back here to work on the many hundreds of thousands of other articles that need help. Your more than capable of doing the work. With the type of grammar your capable of producing and the research you can undertake, I think you would be

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Thanks scope_creep, I really appreciate that, and tried it. However the citation it came up with—which you also came up with—is for a 2009 version of the Joe Kissell book with a slightly different title (the utility must have done some kind of database lookup, which is why it took so long). In the

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I scrolled this user talk and related items about DovidBenAvraham - given 100.38.46.54 is engaging in the first person, I assume that 100… is DovidBenAvraham evading a (well deserved) ban. I’m not engaging here on this further. You’re free to comply with administrator directives and get unbanned to

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I quickly reverted my 27 October version to what is now the current version, because I knew the editor who now has primary control of the article would have done so in any case—which he agreed he would have. At 04:41, 29 October 2019‎ (UTC) I added an extra paragraph to the article's lead, briefly

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Thanks for the good wishes for "the coming New Year." Your "volunteered as a 'tenth man'" fits what some call a genetically Jewish pattern: Hebrew word "Chessed." I found "The Glittering World of Chessed" (ISBN 978-1-4226-2252-0) to be of interest, and perhaps you might also, even though we seem to

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Except I didn't say in my voicemail message that Sr. Damicelli should delete the copied WP text. I just stated that there appeared to be a copyright violation, and gave my phone number. By no particular coincidence, yesterday I took a fast look at the appropriate WP article on copyright. I think

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for more information on uploading your material to Knowledge. For legal reasons, Knowledge cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use

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third-party secondary source: A 2012 review of Retrospect Mac 10 in the 29-year-old highly-respected "Apple news for the rest of us" online publication TidBITS.com. Its first paragraph says Retrospect is "primarily used for backup by small and medium-sized businesses with mixed-platform networks",

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I also agree that the "The line columns show ..." sentences in each of the 6 doubly-indented paragraphs following the "All-new, customizable interface" paragraph in the "Retrospect Macintosh 8" section are overly detailed, and should be left to the User's Guide. The same is true for all sentences

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that it is unique, whereupon that editor reverted the edit because "Promotional edits, primary sourceing , usual problems" That editor could have instead simply have removed the reference to the patent—which I didn't know would be considered a primary source, because the feature paragraph is also

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In furtherance of that, the new comment I intend to make will recap the entire section in a much-shorter fashion than my "wall of text" comment, and will emphasize my recent realization that the primary cause of the "bungle" was the current deficiencies—deficiencies that will cause future problems

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who implements my proposed edits, because I think my proposed edits are a reasonable response to his "This section may need to be rewritten to comply with Knowledge's quality standards" tagging of the article. References 2 and 4 are not currently available on the Web, but I have printouts of the

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comment by the editor about which I later filed the parent ANI case to my description of recent edits was "Oh look, you bloated it out with unencyclopaedic marketing and HOWTO stuff again. I didn't expect that. Actually I did. Your monomaniacal focus on this is becoming rather wearing." He never

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rather than a promotional article. I base this on what I call the "The F**king Manual" phenomenon, which is the unwillingness of application users—well-known for half a century—to "Read TFM". The reason for that unwillingness is evident to anyone with sixth-form-level (U. S. twelfth-grade-level)

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I am foregoing a template message here only because of our long history of interaction. Your suggestion that I might try to "conceal discussion" was completely uncalled for - particularly since in the very same paragraph, you unhelpfully directed Volunteers to a point in the discussion that cuts

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likely to be accurate—why else would an application developer make the substantial effort to include that description when he/she "Writes TFM"? The current principal editor of the Retrospect article will find that he needs that change in the Knowledge rules six to nine months from now, when the

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What we're dealing with here is a case where another "interceptor pilot editor" has insisted on "shooting the wings off" what is actually a "peaceful four-engine cargo plane" article, on the ostensible grounds that the feature listing in the article is "promotional". That feature listing, in my

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subsection was written. If you use View History for the WP article, and go back to a version before that date, it will become pretty obvious that Sr. Damicelli copied at least that subsection of the WP article without AFAICT crediting Knowledge. Whether you legally can, or want to, do anything

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for a Backup run? Dantz started using the term Backup Set in the late 1980s, and they still use it in Retrospect Windows. However they decided in 2008 to change it for Retrospect Mac; one backup app (I think it's Arq) actually uses Backup Set as the term for a set of disks that is treated as a

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I am not and have never been an employee or contractor of Retrospect Inc., or of its predecessor corporations. I have paid for every new major release of the Retrospect software I have ever used, either at the new-purchase price or at the upgrade price, including most recently in spring 2017 for

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I have now done the deletions I talked about, plus a few others. They reduced the size of the article from about 7.2 screen pages down to about 6.2 screen pages. That's about the most I can do as far as the "Overly detailed" issue is concerned, without cutting real meat instead of fat from the

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Second, revise the 4th ¶ to read: "Since that birthday was March 2, 1945, local draft board bureaucracy and train travel mean he would have arrived at a military camp around April 1, 1945. If Lee was placed into the Army ground forces to serve as a rifleman—the most needed Military Occupational

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which I also specifically proposed in the analysis. I feel that it is outright misrepresentation of my having called attention to a systematic deficiency in the features and use of a Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team tool to call it "wasting the time of other editors" who were already

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replied "The TidBITS site is more of a blog. It has that look and feel about it." To my response "I take the tenor of the replies to indicate tacit assent that TidBITS is not a blog in the reference-prohibited sense", the other "interceptor pilot editor" reacted "Well that's a remarkable bit of

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the equal of that of Luke Skywalker or Lara Croft. But that concession means we would have to find another reason for the 18-hour delay in reverting his/her reversion, and the further 7-day delay in providing an explanation that proved to be inadequate. I hereby propose that, in searching for

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It helps here to know a bit about the recent history of Retrospect, which I've learned from the few articles about it (see the links in the article) and reading between the lines—because Retrospect Inc. won't discuss it publicly. EMC shut down its Insignia division—that included the Retrospect

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Ronald Leventhal's death certificate—reference 49 in the article—says he was born on 2 March 1927. That means—as reference 4 in the article says—he would have turned 18 on 2 March 1945. The U.S. draft eligibility age was 18 in 1945, as it still was for me in 1959. 29 days from 2 March is a

3992:"backup server" part of the application will have been rewritten (as publicly predicted by StorCentric top management) to run at least on Drobo hardware—and possibly (my educated guess) on other Linux-based brands of NAS. The Retrospect article will then need to be revised to state this, but 1881:

that would not be satisfactory as a ref. for a WP article. What I was experiencing was that Google Books "server" would not permit me more than a certain number of views of the paragraphs I consider applicable to the definition of "client-server backup". So I did a search, and was lucky and

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I have absolutely no interest in editing HistoryPedia, and neither do most other people (although people with COIs are interested in editing BioPedia)—which is IMHO why the number of Knowledge editors is decreasing year over year. Since 2016 what I've been creating is articles on enterprise

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As a result of this, the WP article on Retrospect that existed in early October 2016 was only a couple of 4-line paragraphs followed by 4 one-line paragraphs, summarized the program as it existed in 2006, and was written in 2009. When I tried to enhance the article, I ran into the fact that

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Dear DovidBenAvraham, as a WP user I have perfect right to edit any article at any time, anywhere on Knowledge. The edits your making to the Retrospect article are completely ignoring the consensus that has been built up around what needs to be done to create an article that conforms to

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I know you mean well, you're very bright, you're well written and knowledgeable, but I think you just have a misunderstanding of Knowledge's purpose, editing, civility, and consensus building policies above. I wouldn't be reaching out to you if I didn't see potential for you to do be a

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In short, if I were unblocked and again started to edit the Retrospect (software) article, I would undoubtedly be subjected to the same unpredictable strictures as before. My edits to other backup-related articles were mostly to correct out-of-dateness or blundering edits by others.

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to a backup run. I define any Retrospect term before I use it, which is more than you can say for the writer of the NetBackup article, and after the revision I will only be using four (Source, Media Set, Member, and Grooming). I await your suggestions for substitute terms that are

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So just change the first sentence of that proposed fourth ¶ revision to ""Since that birthday was March 2, 1945, local draft board bureaucracy means he would have arrived at a military camp around April 1, 1945." and add a ref to those pages at the end of the sentence.

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on improvements to the "Early years" section of that article. I've specified these below, underneath the ¶ beginning "OK, here are a couple". I can't post those improvements myself, so why don't you take 3 minutes of your no-doubt-valuable time to make them to the

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reviews of Retrospect on the venerable and respected TitBITS.com. Those reviews, although not as detailed as the corresponding Retrospect Mac User's Guides, contained information that was detailed enough to serve as substitutes for those UGs as references in the WP

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since October 2016. As for "Large amounts of sections are based on one or few (primary) sources", 17 out of the 33 references in the article as of today are to third-party sources—which was a major effort of Googling considering the scarcity of recent reviews of

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made by lower-casing and putting in quotes the phrase and by adding "which is my term ...". Other than that, my only other substantive edits to my 04:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC) comment were adding "(at least more often ...)" and "(which CopyPatrol will detect

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other than one short Macworld review by Stuart Gripman; there are only the primary-source Retrospect Mac User's Guides that are 250+ pages long. In enhancing the article, I've essentially tried to create a secondary source that is longer than that review but

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Sorry to rain on your parade, Delta7264, but after doing some digging (despite my back problem) I unearthed a paper bag labeled "RL Documents Used for Knowledge (chronological sequence)". Here are the relevant quotes from references 2 and 4 of the article:

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include anything that independent commentators haven't thought significant enotgh to cover. Don't inlcude sources that are obviously based on press releases (aka churnalism). Don't include WP:HOWTO or other manual-like content." By 27 October 2019 I had:

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on it apparently expired on it only in 2016 (IANAL). The first reference in the paragraph is the text of the 1996 patent itself; I put in that ref to show the feature is unique to Retrospect. The second reference is the 2003 SC Magazine article that

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I'll deal here with the "MOS" issue. I'm puzzled, because I got 98% on the New York State 3-Year English Regents' Exam and I've never been accused of not writing correct American English. The only thing I can think of is that you may be bothered by

4102:, which is IMHO easier to read than a diff that incorporates other section whose comments overlapped in time with the thread. It shows that only my first 4 comments, totalling 1.6 screen pages, deal with the "mistake" of the editor who deleted my 2409:, and material that I wrote from scratch this morning. AFAICT the subsection was previously basically unchanged since around 2008; much of it appears to have been written based on the notes of a 1997 University of Wisconsin lecture by Nina Boss 1744:—don't work (BTW, this sentence and following in the post used the em-dash from the WP editing bar). Third, would you kindly specify what you mean by "dodgy language"? If you're referring to Retrospect terms such as Media Set, what would be 4150:

deficiency in that it failed to give the "first added" date of the Knowledge article. With the aid of those two dates, which had I found from the Wayback Machine and View History respectively, I had determined in about 10 minutes that the

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By "right on that", did you just mean the m-dash—or did you also mean using the Retrospect terms for the four concepts? BTW Arq doesn't use Backup Set as the term for a set of disks that is treated as a single user-visible entity for the

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If you want to revert my edits to my comment, please feel free to do so. However please be aware that your doing so will simply result in my making my forthcoming comment longer, by causing me to add a new paragraph saying "When I wrote

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fifth-character-from-left-in-fourth-row on the WP editing bar. But it seems to work, although I admit I probably use em-dashes—grammatically correctly—more than most writers. Second, BTW, some of the links you put in—such as the one to

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Knowledge article that discusses the current features of even the Windows and Macintosh versions of the Retrospect "backup server". Also, as I mentioned several times on the article Talk page—the latest time in the second paragraph of

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literacy; user manuals are precisely-written and boring, as contrasted with promotional articles which are written to be interesting even when potential users skim over them. As a matter of common sense, isn't any description of an

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that take pages to describe. And, if you want third-party sources to verify that Retrospect Macintosh versions 9 through 13 have the features briefly described in the article, please use the search box in the upper-right corner of

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I've now found support for "local draft board bureaucracy ... mean he would have arrived at a military camp around April 1, 1945" in my proposed revision to the fourth ¶ of the "Early years" section of the article. Pages 13–14 of

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policy. In fact, those policies and guidelines are decided by consensus in the first place. So if you want to include something in an article, and in that specific situation the consensus is against you, then it is

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I don't care about your explanations. They don't matter. If you misfire on a Talk page, add a new comment. Don't revise history. (Oh and PS. Don't take this as an invitation to drag that sad discussion on even

2759:. Truly "The wicked flee when no man pursueth ...", but someone connected with Cisco—which may have insisted on his/her adding more than an attribution—seems to have pursued the Los Angeles County consultant about 938:

Please respond here if these changes would solve the "Overly detailed" issue. As I've said in my third paragraph above, I can't do much about the "Primary sources" issue because there essentially are no secondary

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from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Knowledge, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

4122:, because of an invalid analogy and a mis-characterization of my proposed solutions to the deficiencies.) "When text is added to Knowledge,a bot compares the edit against a plagiarism detection service called 420:. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose 2900:". Don't worry, I fully intend to deal with the switch from the ... Squad to the "... squad". I think the result will be better if you leave my revisions intact, because as I said above they are innocuous. 2315: 2242: 2146: 1643: 1404:

detail to counter that. It's true that I've re-inserted the "The line columns show ..." sentences in each of the 6 doubly-indented paragraphs following the "All-new, customizable interface" paragraph in the

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turns google book refs into proper WP refs. To make it work, pop in a GBook url at the top, click the Load and a ref pops out. Examing Some locations, which I only discovered myself, are using it for years:

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First, revise the last sentence of the 3rd ¶ to read "As the show was being prepared to go on network radio, Lee turned eighteen and was drafted into the U.S. Army "shortly after his eighteenth birthday"."

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of the paragraphs that begin with the word "Improved" or "Faster" could be considered "exhaustive logs of software updates"; however some of those paragraphs also describe Retrospect features not discussed

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to a backup run; it is (based on some quick Googling) Mozy, Norton, Symantec, iBackup, and CommVault that do. Veeam uses Backup Set in the Retrospect Windows sense of a single user-visible entity for the

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Ever since the software was first released, its UI has made the first letters of certain words upper-case to indicate a specific Retrospect meaning. The remainder of this article preserves that convention.

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selective reading: you choose to interpret the replies in a way that gives you permission to reinsert the trivial crap back into the article." I think his reaction proves there needs to be a fairer way,

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Also note that Knowledge articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Knowledge project or article, you can, but please follow the steps in

3929:, defined as "a discussion or informational website published on the World Wide Web consisting of discrete, often informal diary-style text entries (posts)." Another "interceptor pilot editor" decided 770:. Both of these are marked as © 2016 Condé Nast. All rights reserved and © Ars Technica 1998-2016. Please don't add any further copyright material to this wiki. You risk being blocked from editing. — 3086: 2299:. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose 2226:. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose 2130:. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose 1627:. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose 2602:

In apparent reaction to a message I (perhaps naively) left on his voicemail the other day, Sr. Damicelli has now removed the copyright-violating material from the current version of his blog—but

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article edit for copyright violation—a deletion he/she reverted within 18 hours based on my firm denial but didn't explain for 7 days. The remaining 5.2 screen pages in the thread deal with

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territory on this. The solution is extremely simple: find reliable independent secondary sources, or the material will be removed. If there are no reliable independent secondary sources than

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the way I use the em-dash. The only thing I might be guilty of in that respect is using the standard combination for em-dash on my Mac keyboard, instead of using the Special characters-: -->

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I wrote this edit early this morning, as a combination of material that was currently in the subsection, material that had been in the subsection until it was deleted by JohnInDC yesterday

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Welcome—folks—to responsibility for all backup-related articles; try—if you want—to make them encyclopedic! Good luck; I'm going to get back into (open-source) application programming. ] (

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No, I re-copied the Google Books URL—that I had found a week or so ago—directly into the into the WMF utility from the source code. I got the same 2009 result, a Google Books URL with a

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has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Retrospect (software)". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation.

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in the MOS yourself. That gives an example of using the em-dash "We read them in chronological order: Descartes, Locke, Hume—but not his Treatise (it is too complex)—and Kant." It is

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Ronny never spoke to anyone of having been sent overseas, but references 1 and 2 in the article say his engineering education at the RCA Institutes of Technology was was funded by the

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and make getting unblocked what would normally be a fairly straightforward process (i.e., by showing you intend to make a fresh start and change your editing behaviour, by adhering to

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That's why I decided to adopt a historical approach. After enhancing the original article as the "Concepts prior to Retrospect Macintosh 8" section, I added sections outlining the

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Sorry, I've lost you a long time ago. I don't understand the insides of Retrospect, and I have never used the software. Your questions are more fitted to the article talk page or

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of the article, IMHO anyone doing that editing will have a tough time finding any violations of NPOV. To reach that opinion, I classified—not use-counted—all the references:

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talk page, because IMHO my getting banned is the result of a fundamental Knowledge problem with articles on commercial software—which I'll discuss in a separate section below.

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Further support for Ronny's initial education at the RCA Institutes of Technology—per the next-to-last ¶ of the "Early years" section of the article—having been funded by the

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as if it's speculative, but it's based on References in the article plus the application of date arithmetic I learned in a U.S. public elementary school by the age of 10.

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he was exposed to at New York University. Selling his self-published books—which he promoted at music-teacher conventions, plus student fees, kept him solvent therefter.

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be an additional exception). In short, this stated reason as to my belief about the legitimacy of first-party sources was out-of-date by 6 hours when it was cited in the

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during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.

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was too detailed, but that article, as Dovid rightly notes, does need improvements; I think he'd be right to be involved in that, but it should be through the talkpages.

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is in the 4th ¶ of the "teacher and technical expert" section of the article. Reference 23 says his "guitar conversion kit" was being sold by Imperial Creations by May

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is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the

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I believe that this is a request to unblock the indefinitely blocked editor User:DovidBenAvraham. Pi314m, please advise that editor to file an unblock request himself.

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about half of it off. You need to knock off the insults and insinuations, and take it for granted that I neither have it out for you or am trying to game the system.

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have a second account when one's block has been lifted, provided you disclose the username of that second account and your rationale for having it on the userpages of

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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see

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a blog; that ref briefly describes an 2018 major improvement to the feature. The fourth reference is a 2019 review of the Windows variant of Retrospect on the

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through 1971—per the 4th ¶ of the "teacher and technical expert" section. The obvious inference is that Ronny's studies after World War II were funded by the

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is only 20 screen lines longer than the 6-screen-line 2003 feature listing in the second paragraph of the current version of the article. IMHO what makes my

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additions constitute both comments on the article and de-facto requests to edit it, so he too could run into trouble. I'm not going to make any trouble for

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the only available references will be to first-party Retrospect user manuals—because the authors of any existing independent second-party Linux publications

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I was eventually able to revise the article so that a full 50% (13 out of 26) of references are to third-party secondary sources, because I belatedly found

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for which I've never been shown any WP prohibition—and which I share with any content article creator writing about e. g. futuristic German WWII weapons.

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the formation of an official WP Copyvio Detection Squad. My originally initial-uppercasing that phrase, rather than putting the phrase in quotes, was a

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The article has expanded from 7.5 to 10 pages—exclusive of References—since October 2016, but most of that expansion resulted from: (1) expansion of the

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deficiency of CopyPatrol in that—at least in 2018—it didn't give the "first crawled" date of the Web page found in the Turnitin database, and another

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I'm going to bring up the article to attention of other contributors. I'm not sure yet how or what will be done about it, but I'll try to find out.

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I think the article needs significant improvements, especially regarding to adding third-party sources. If it's not overly detailed, then it may be

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articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;

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be able to license that text so that we can publish it here. However, there are steps that must be taken to verify that license before you do. See

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Removed all first-party sources, except the announcement of the sale of Retrospect Inc. to SourceCentric—which WP allows as an ownership statement

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Since tagging the article in October 2016 (~10 months ago), there's not been substantial improvement to the issues listed but quite the opposite.

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except in certain specific circumstances; the rest of that comment explains why IMHO references to software features in application user manuals

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articles. I don't want to create "dozens of new articles"; I'm a firm believer in "write what you know". I wrote an article in Fall 2015 about

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a written Knowledge policy that says articles about application software can only mention features that are unique to that particular application

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or by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the

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article ends with Delta7264's statement "I added the section rewrite tag to the military piece because much of the section is speculative.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be

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didn’t need to take. The effect of your dispute here is now rippling outside of Knowledge. You are making things worse, not better.

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There is nothing inherently wrong with works being copyrighted, as long as they are freely licensed to allow Knowledge to use the work.

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if it helps publicize the discussion and build a stronger consensus of editors beyond just those who regularly edit a certain article.

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of Retrospect's many features well enough to allow a potential user to decide whether Retrospect will fulfill his/her requirements.

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shorter than the User's Guide. At 7 screen pages, exclusive of the references, I think I've done reasonably well. Retrospect is

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Please take a few moments to read and review Knowledge's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to

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In regard to the "It may need editing to conform to Knowledge's neutral point of view policy." sentence in the tag added at the

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of the article—referenced by the same 2012 Macworld article that is still used as the third reference in the current version.

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about that "copyright violation" is up to you. In any case, it seems obvious that advancing from Earwig's Copyvio Detector to

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I have removed your recent additions to the article, as the material appears to have been copied from the copyright web pages

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beyond "similar content elsewhere on the web using Google", which is what led to CopyPatrol's newly identifying a 5-year-old

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Removed all press-release-based sources, except for one ChannelPro reference for 2 cloud-support features—I've now found a

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from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. —

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There is nowhere you should send your references, because I'm not going to proxy for you and neither should anyone else.

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take twice to three times the number of screen lines to list what is only a moderate superset of Retrospect's features.

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on id 871184475, which is the article after my edit and before your reversion; it got a highest 15.3% probability in the

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in an application—particularly between Mac and Windows variants—is a first-party Knowledge Base (user-manual) article.

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is an independent secondary source, which the editor who now has primary control of the article didn't bother to contest

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secondary. We make limited exceptions (e.g. we commonly use an About page for a founding date for a website) but we do

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to

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dealing with Hut 8.5's complaints in his/her 07:57, 14 December 2018 (UTC) comment. My comment will say that Hut 8.5

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I'll just add that I see another example of your literalist approach to policy in your comment above, where you say "

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what stuff was "marketing" and "HOWTO". As I said in my 09:16, 29 October 2019 (UTC) comment in the ANI, "I did so

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confirm that a source is public domain or compatibly licensed, you will still need to provide full attribution; see

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FYi, I asked Ronny a couple of years before he died why he hadn't created any video courses on playing guitar. He

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In case you didn't see it and might be interested, I'm copying this comment here (with a few minor mods) from the

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Thinking further, I've started wondering about whether some Retrospect problems mentioned in the second paragraph

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able to create many dozens of new articles. Come back dude. Forget the backup articles. Focus on some new stuff.

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possible for you to be unblocked, perhaps in a relatively short period of time, provide that you can show you've

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is encouraged, when your edits are reverted, we're supposed to take to the Talk pages. Feel free to establish an

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that apparently went over Hut 8.5's head. My forthcoming comment will say that the "WP copyvio detection squad"

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is dated 10 April 2013, which by internal evidence is almost 5 years after the existing material I edited in the

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about "an equally niche Mac specialist publisher" whose articles I had cited several times in the article. The

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I am totally mystified by your reversion for copyright violation on 15:19, 29 November 2018‎ (UTC) of my edit:

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section—and think about "confused the heck out of many Retrospect installation administrators" and why I felt

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Trade paper article about Ronny Lee's endorsement of a particular bass guitar and his switch to teaching = 1

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Knowledge:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=923640399

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Hi DovidBenAvraham, thanks for working with me on the article. Just a comment on the section you added back

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is critical here, as is the fact that an unblock request is not the place to relitigate a content dispute.

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I had misidentified an edit as a copyvio when the actual material was elsewhere. Sorry for the confusion.

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There is no original research in the article, except that I got the "The line columns show ..." sentences—

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was based on experiences with his "Instant Guitar" audio-cassette-based "programmed instruction" course.

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describing the Proactive Scripts feature which is unique to Retrospect. I referenced the 1996 patent to

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works his way through the links in the Wayback Machine version of Sr. Damicelli's Web page, he will find

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this page that also includes an 18 April 2013 article entitled "Viruses, Trojans and Malware in general"

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discrepancy between two sections in the Retrospect Mac 13 User's Guide discussing the "Dashboard", does

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came up with a result of 39,4% for the article. Unlikely to be a violation so far, but I'd be cautious.

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Articles describing the guitar model the Gretsch Co. named for Ronny Lee before he quit performing = 3

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The above words are the core of the advice given to my request. For the record, the sentences read:

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OK, this at least shows I can make a comment on my own Talk page—even if nowhere else on Knowledge.

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It is certainly possible I grabbed the wrong url. I don't think I even looked at it, at the moment.

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article over the night of 28-29 October 2019, and four hours ago it ended as I afraid it might. I

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reverted his/her reversion. Thank the Lord I didn't hit anyone rolling across that lawn in 1956.

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Please tell me—or have your bot tell me—where the copyright violation lies, so that I can fix it.

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I'll deal here with the "Primary sources" and "Overly detailed" issues. Please remember that, per

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industry-standard, but I don't intend to hold my breath while waiting—because there aren't any.

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section, but all except one of those sentences was less than one line long—and IMHO they make it

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write whole articles mainly from primary and affiliated sources. The second problem you have is

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your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things

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article had no substantial additions in April 2013 (2 years before I became a WP editor)—thus

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ANI. (I've stated at the top of my 05:39, 2 December 2019 (UTC) comment in this section that

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While I don't know the whole history, it seems that you might be misunderstanding Knowledge's

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You have edited this article recently quite a lot, but also introduced multiple issues to it:

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in my 04:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC) comment I should have omitted it as superfluous or added

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following the first sentence in the "Custom reporting" paragraph later in that same section.

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what it is saying, and avoid the tendency to edit in a substantial way on topics where you

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term for a set of disks or tapes that is treated as a single user-visible entity for the

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has enough detail to be interesting for majority of readers. Another comparison would be

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Now here's a relevant quote from the 4th ¶ of "World War II" section of the WP article

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for a Backup run; CrashPlan uses Backup Set as the term for a combination(!) of the two.

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describe "every element of the software in detail". If the Finnish editor wants to see

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content dispute was—to the extent that it didn't involve first-party sources—about the

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from the bottom of page 29 through all of page 34—although the latter UG pages include

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http://download.retrospect.com/docs/mac/v14/user_guide/Retrospect_Mac_User_Guide-EN.pdf

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to the Knowledge article or to the website of your organization in other articles (see

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policies, and do not attempt to edit logged out or by creating multiple accounts. One

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for the "squad"—of CopyPatrol rather than the way Username_Needed used the facility.

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I just used that CopyPatrol tool to discover a "copyright violation", but it's in the

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amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double

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Announcement listing Ronny Lee being on faculty of Kingsborough Community College = 1

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to create a condensed version of the Mac Version 13 User's Guide, but to explain the

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of the application, prefixed by a 6-screen-line summary of what the application did

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Backup&diff=871018545&oldid=870983323

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Backup&diff=871184475&oldid=871052458

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be "Original research". Problem (2) with the How-To Video Tutorials is definitely

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written by Ronny Lee) about his convention or seminar appearances or seminars = 5

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Guy had previously said that mentioning a unique feature is not a promotional edit

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please indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you agree to participate.

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to develop this gadget, yet his further studies at New York University were from

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misunderstanding of what motivates me—as well as many other Knowledge editors—to

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appropriate pages I can scan and send to whatever online address you designate.

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Hello DovidBenAvraham. I hope you don't mind, but I've moved some material from

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concerning Retrospect (software), to which you were listed as a party, has been

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own the copyright to the source you want to copy or are a designated agent, you

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has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without

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Leventhal, Ronald (Ronny Lee) (1980). ASCAP Biographical Dictionary (4th ed.).

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that mistake was originally made, which was (and probably still is) because of

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will almost certainly demonstrate to the community that you cannot be trusted.

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in the User's Guide runs from the bottom of page 18 through the top of page 21

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I've changed the section heading to a question, to which the short answer is:

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As far as "making a mistake with an unfamiliar copyvio tool", I've replied to

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Page numbers. If it is a single page, which it mostly is, get rid of the dash.

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I made the effort, he/she should read the second paragraph in the Talk page's

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capitalization of certain words in the article. This is actually a case of

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be added in this way, so it is necessary to seek confirmation first. If you

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Ronny Lee article about "musical old wives' tales" in trade publication = 1

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of Knowledge. You need to realize that anyone can edit, but when edits are

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make the mistake of creating a second account as you will then be tagged a

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https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1307101&start=40

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from a primary source, both which are against Knowledge's policies. If no

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http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1306619&start=40

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MEDICAL DEPARTMENT, UNITED STATES ARMY PHYSICAL STANDARDS IN WORLD WAR II

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to the question of my proposed edits to the "Early years" section of the

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the non-encyclopedic state its current principal editor has reduced it to

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incorrect to include it, simply because consensus is the ultimate decider

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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the

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as either an archival utility or for offline storage; that is why it has

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for an application feature, so long as the reference is to a user manual

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The first problem is that we are not supposed to use any reference to a

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an obsolete stub rather resembling the state to which it's been reverted

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go longer and then they're candidates for splitting. Make sure you read

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from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

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Hi DovidBenAvraham. This utility, which is provided by the WMF labs, at

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

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Yes, of course I'm DovidBenAvraham; this is my talk page, to which I'm

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primary-source references. My 12:43, 27 October 2019 (UTC) comment in

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Magazine or newspaper articles about Ronny Lee guitar performances = 6

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discussion as it might help in case you decide to appeal your block...

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my "wall of text" comment in several ways, one of which was that I am

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lead section—as requested by another editor, (2) further expansion of

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You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to

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in that section, just application of elementary-school logic and the

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this page which—in an updated version—still exists on Cisco's website

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Talk page shows I created the current section on 22 February 2024, @

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No, I don't think there would be any point to my being unblocked now

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from editing for disruptive editing after a community discussion at

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The edit I made to my 04:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC) comment was the

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before editing any further or you may be blocked from editing here.

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for 3 tiny bulleted items at the beginning, (3) addition of the new

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If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider

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Articles or handouts about Ronny Lee guitar-related inventions = 2

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on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to

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systematic deficiencies in the features and editor use procedures

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that he/she should do less WP editing, and do it more thoroughly.

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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Knowledge

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Specific Ronny Lee books teaching guitar playing or singing = 14

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of "Axis collapse and Allied victory (1944–1945)" in history of

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Dovid being unblocked as well. It seems that his involvement in

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I appreciate your efforts on attempting to improve the article.

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issue, with that I was primarily referring to pseudo-lists like

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If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review

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If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review

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If you wish to participate in the 2017 election, please review

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If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review

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ASCAP Biographical Dictionary entry (written by Ronny Lee) = 1

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a content dispute; it was the parent ANI's subject editor who

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I accept that first-party references are not currently allowed

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Knowledge:Miscellany for deletion/User:DovidBenAvraham/sandbox

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article. However, see below on the "Original research" issue.

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were far too detailed and better suited for Wikibooks, which

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I'm therefore withdrawing my attempt to be a Knowledge editor

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with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of

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the WP "Backup" article just before the date of his blog post

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Knowledge is not an indiscriminate collection of information.

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says—that is difficult to do in an technical article. As for

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for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

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submit your edits; I’ll see you on the Ronny Lee talk page.

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that you've read the policies which I summarized for you at

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please advise that editor to file an unblock request himself

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exist for a subject, it should not usually have an article.

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before adding such content to the article. 99.9% of sources

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First let's step back and take a dispassionate look at the

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As for "dubious on copyright", I haven't heard a peep from

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of problems outlined in the first paragraph of the section.

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Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information

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It doesn't violate copyright. He can use it freely. See

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I've now changed the bulleted lists to WP-style. Thanks.

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be possible to include greater portions of a source text.

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Hello DovidBenAvraham. All or some of your addition(s) to

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himself added. The third reference is a 2018 article in

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be over-estimating your level of competency/proficiency.

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here it is captured on the Wayback Machine on 18 May 2014

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If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the

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from the article by Fall 2017, although the first-party

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Coauthors dont work. First name, last name are standard.

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incident with which you may be involved. Thank you.

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Knowledge is not for exhaustive logs of software updates

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to this 💕. If you decide that you need help, check out

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Please expound, unless you're only quarreling with my

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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the

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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the

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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the

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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the

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information and to demonstrate that the content is not

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Click make citation, at the bottom left, for citation.

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Hit the today button to get an access-date in the ref.

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Replaced explicit mention of features common to many

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topic. Thus, some of the details you tried to add to

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Worth a look. To find it, type in: Google Book cite.

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Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

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Ads about non-self-published Ronny Lee guitar books

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Underlining a false assertion doesn't make it true.

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At the same time, I would also recommend you review

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Copy to WP, and you are left with a much better ref.

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Given the circumstances, do I want to be unblocked?

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Discover what's going on in the Wikimedia community

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IMHO 2513:"Enterprise client-server backup" section lead 2354:has been removed, as it appears to have added 3825:a notable friend who had died 5 months before 3538:in an effort to help you understood the core 2817:preliminary to a new comment I intend to make 1729:First of all, you probably should read about 1165:in the "Documentation" section of the article 192: 97: 19: 8: 4485:BTW, your other tag beginning "This article 4003:my 07:00, 21 October 2019 (UTC) comment here 3686:removed by 27 October 2019 were to "how-to" 1130:. Most Retrospect administrators employ it 4477:Meanwhile, Delta7264, you can rejoice that 4044:"I noticed an interesting comment of yours 3998:will not be able to look at an encyclopedic 3908:client-server backup applications that are 3536:User talk:DovidBenAvraham#Some helpful tips 3225:, as I think this goes to the core of what 4426: 4373: 3933:that the 29-year-old Mac-oriented website 2358:material to Knowledge without evidence of 1680:Knowledge:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard 1340:is still in list format instead of prose. 518:hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue 4533:article. First, although the History of 4192:of my second-party sources, I previously 2384:Knowledge:Copying text from other sources 382:Thank you for helping improve Knowledge! 3363:On the afternoon of 29 October 2019 Guy 2606:. It is visibly obviously a subset of 2364:Knowledge:Donating copyrighted materials 1424:"Concepts prior to Retrospect Windows 7" 1394:"Retrospect Windows 'backup server' GUI" 1386:"Concepts prior to Retrospect Windows 7" 1225:really dig into the practical usefulness 552:Knowledge:Donating copyrighted materials 343:to see how you can improve the article. 4223:this (archived) Miscellany for deletion 4221:only because on 26 October 2019 filed 4062:of the one that led to my being blocked 3721:so long as I don't violate actual rules 3719:for the application, but I think those— 1908: 1384:concepts that the article discusses in 713:so that you do not violate Knowledge's 4605:he had told me he wasn't sent overseas 4263:That section of the Talk page for the 4142:article. I identified one systematic 3910:currently under continuing development 3631:encyclopedic about the software itself 3535: 3051:see things differently in some areas. 2281:Hello, DovidBenAvraham. Voting in the 2208:Hello, DovidBenAvraham. Voting in the 2112:Hello, DovidBenAvraham. Voting in the 1609:Hello, DovidBenAvraham. Voting in the 1446:section, and (6) further expansion of 989:Retrospect-specific technical language 233:– a Wizard to help you create articles 3259:As well, you will want to review the 2661:'s complaint of having been insulted 890:there are no modern secondary sources 339:. You may like to take a look at the 335:, which is recorded on the article's 7: 3989:application feature in a user manual 3639:08:56, 27 October 2019 (UTC) version 3625:to EMC's acquiring it and giving it 2495:What does "elsewhere" mean? In the 2284:2018 Arbitration Committee elections 2211:2018 Arbitration Committee elections 2115:2017 Arbitration Committee elections 1612:2016 Arbitration Committee elections 493:in the sections on "text". See also 3291:) a much more difficult process as 2466:Do you see any explanations here? 1979:Formal mediation has been requested 1753:single user-visible entity for the 1678:There is currently a discussion at 689:when discussing affected articles, 512:, so it is not permitted here; see 4525:Oh come now, let's apply a little 4161:enhanced CopyPatrol use procedures 4120:a subsidiary section of the thread 4083:ANI which led to my being blocked. 3209:)—that is, it is, at its core, an 2833:already exists as a de-facto group 2268:ArbCom 2018 election voter message 2195:ArbCom 2018 election voter message 2099:ArbCom 2017 election voter message 599:Knowledge:Copying within Knowledge 14: 4415:Conscription in the United States 4227:previously used the proper forums 4225:of my Sandbox." In short, I had 4005:—sometimes the only source for a 3275:accounts. Please, please, please 2794:Knowledge talk:Copyright problems 2610:, which he dated 10 April 2013. 1292:. As yet I have seen no answers. 1196:"Synthesis of published material" 1188:"Synthesis of published material" 593:for the steps you need to follow. 485:(") and cite the source using an 434:review the candidates' statements 331:The article has been assessed as 4603:months after Ronny's death—that 4052:of the Retrospect article I had 3735:) 06:30, 10 November 2019 (UTC) 3073: 2345: 2273: 2200: 2104: 1919:Take Control of Mac OS X Backups 1673: 1601: 1569: 1458:bulleted items corresponding to 631: 459: 64: 58: 3853:26-screen-line feature listing 3046:Thanks (upcoming New Year 5780) 2318:and submit your choices on the 2245:and submit your choices on the 2149:and submit your choices on the 1492:disclose your paid relationship 672:instead, you are encouraged to 627:Managing a conflict of interest 561:(that is, for sources that are 502:in your own words and structure 497:, for how to cite sources here. 4491:or has been extensively edited 4050:08:56, 27 October 2019 version 3980:08:56, 27 October 2019 version 3847:08:56, 27 October 2019 version 3061:05:12, 23 September 2019 (UTC) 3041:07:06, 12 September 2019 (UTC) 2785:Revision of Talk page comments 2037:Request for mediation rejected 1974:12:13, 27 September 2017 (UTC) 1896:08:04, 22 September 2017 (UTC) 1873:05:51, 22 September 2017 (UTC) 1858:01:50, 22 September 2017 (UTC) 1843:21:02, 21 September 2017 (UTC) 1782:00:48, 20 September 2017 (UTC) 1768:21:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC) 1724:20:40, 19 September 2017 (UTC) 1588:02:18, 10 September 2017 (UTC) 1086:. In that comparison, I think 985:what you think of as excessive 655:conflict of interest guideline 535:. You may also want to review 495:Help:Referencing for beginners 477:You can only copy/translate a 440:. For the Election committee, 410:Arbitration Committee election 401:ArbCom elections are now open! 1: 4702:and his death certificate = 2 4574:02:54, 29 February 2024 (UTC) 4560:02:27, 29 February 2024 (UTC) 4521:19:44, 28 February 2024 (UTC) 4503:19:25, 28 February 2024 (UTC) 4479:I've accepted your suggestion 4458:11:53, 28 February 2024 (UTC) 4441:02:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC) 4388:06:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC) 4347:21:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC) 4332:22:34, 25 February 2024 (UTC) 4297:21:28, 26 February 2024 (UTC) 4277:16:13, 22 February 2024 (UTC) 4247:06:25, 16 December 2019 (UTC) 3801:16:22, 30 November 2019 (UTC) 3763:12:48, 30 November 2019 (UTC) 3447:policies and guidelines, not 3331:describing a feature that is 3323:I tried an experiment on the 3213:. Each article should be, at 2990:19:46, 2 September 2019 (UTC) 2910:19:22, 14 December 2018 (UTC) 2879:19:05, 14 December 2018 (UTC) 2860:19:01, 14 December 2018 (UTC) 2810:17:24, 14 December 2018 (UTC) 2773:18:35, 13 December 2018 (UTC) 2694:13:12, 12 December 2018 (UTC) 2679:12:55, 12 December 2018 (UTC) 2639:11:56, 12 December 2018 (UTC) 2620:07:52, 12 December 2018 (UTC) 2425:16:36, 29 November 2018 (UTC) 2388:15:20, 29 November 2018 (UTC) 2334:18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC) 2297:Knowledge arbitration process 2261:18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC) 2224:Knowledge arbitration process 2128:Knowledge arbitration process 2070:For the Mediation Committee, 1922:. Take Control Books. p. 26. 1742:Dantz Development Corporation 1662:22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC) 1625:Knowledge arbitration process 1372:condenses a discussion whose 489:. You can read about this at 450:17:08, 24 November 2015 (UTC) 121:The five pillars of Knowledge 93: 15: 4669:Review of Ronny Lee book by 4206:Retrospect article talk page 4174:22:00, 7 December 2019 (UTC) 4164:starting to use that tool. 4019:05:39, 2 December 2019 (UTC) 3960:23:36, 1 December 2019 (UTC) 3895:09:02, 1 December 2019 (UTC) 3879:06:01, 1 December 2019 (UTC) 3857:is that it is intentionally 3593:09:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC) 3568:01:10, 7 November 2019 (UTC) 3501:10:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC) 3475:09:28, 30 October 2019 (UTC) 3416:22:07, 29 October 2019 (UTC) 3318:21:59, 29 October 2019 (UTC) 3169:21:37, 29 October 2019 (UTC) 3111:17:31, 26 October 2019 (UTC) 3095:User:DovidBenAvraham/sandbox 3079:User:DovidBenAvraham/sandbox 3068:User:DovidBenAvraham/sandbox 2930:User:DovidBenAvraham/sandbox 2598:17:02, 7 December 2018 (UTC) 2584:16:46, 7 December 2018 (UTC) 2546:14:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC) 2533:13:06, 7 December 2018 (UTC) 2483:09:40, 7 December 2018 (UTC) 2476:02:28, 7 December 2018 (UTC) 2438:03:10, 4 December 2018 (UTC) 2165:18:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC) 2080:18:24, 20 October 2017 (UTC) 2065:Knowledge:Dispute resolution 2059:of the Committee, or to the 2045:request for formal mediation 2029:04:58, 20 October 2017 (UTC) 2027:of the Mediation Committee. 1352:, he/she should try reading 1318:04:56, 30 October 2016 (UTC) 1304:04:06, 26 October 2016 (UTC) 1283:05:15, 24 October 2016 (UTC) 1239:03:56, 26 October 2016 (UTC) 1210:04:48, 24 October 2016 (UTC) 1155:20:56, 23 October 2016 (UTC) 1109:09:03, 23 October 2016 (UTC) 1043:04:56, 30 October 2016 (UTC) 1029:05:17, 24 October 2016 (UTC) 1007:03:55, 24 October 2016 (UTC) 974:02:51, 24 October 2016 (UTC) 953:08:11, 23 October 2016 (UTC) 867:03:25, 23 October 2016 (UTC) 804:03:20, 23 October 2016 (UTC) 783:13:09, 11 October 2016 (UTC) 514:Knowledge:Close paraphrasing 131:Intuitive guide to Knowledge 55:sign your name on talk pages 25:Hello, DovidBenAvraham, and 3021:it is not Knowledge content 2970:04:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC) 2507:article? Last night I ran 1772:Sorry, your right on that. 1696:18:19, 20 August 2017 (UTC) 1688:2001:2003:54FA:2F79:0:0:0:1 1646:and submit your choices on 1580:2001:2003:54FA:2751:0:0:0:1 1564:18:26, 20 August 2017 (UTC) 1556:2001:2003:54FA:2F79:0:0:0:1 1528:18:06, 20 August 2017 (UTC) 1520:2001:2003:54FA:2F79:0:0:0:1 1513:20:47, 20 August 2017 (UTC) 1494:per Wikimedia Foundation's 1482:22:15, 20 August 2017 (UTC) 1413:"what it is intended for". 1132:for multiple users on a LAN 1096:, with summarized changes. 753:13:42, 9 October 2016 (UTC) 636:Hello, DovidBenAvraham. 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