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I can't for the life of me understand this arbitration. The status quo was "Tel al-Sultan massacre". JohnAdams1800 violated 1RR (and WP:TITLECHANGES) in order to change the status quo to "Tel al-Sultan airstrikes". Now you're saying I should go back and change the title
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