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by the Tāmaki Collective of 13 iwi and hapū since 2014. Some of the naming conventions reflect gazetted name changes, some have been arrived at over the last eight years. Most are now commonly used on Google Maps, Google and recent sources like mainstream media. (The three maunga with dual Māori names didn't have their name changed officially in 2014, their signs use dual Māori names now, council uses three names, the media tend to use the main Māori name plus the English one. I used the dual Māori names in the title – to help people reading signs – and all three names in the article body).

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I've appreciated you rewording info I've added from legitimate sources where you've felt the need. I haven't appreciated you deleting info based on your interpretation of Knowledge policies and guidelines with no discussion on my interpretation. I'd more than happy to respond to your opinions above

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Hi James, I just want to talk here because I get the impression this is something that is going to carry on elsewhere if I don’t address it. You continue to refer to Māori names being “regained” or returning in some way. I find this troublesome, as it implies that Māori people or the Māori language

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articles over the last day to bring their naming conventions in line with six others, which reflect the Auckland Council's (reserve managers) and Tūpuna Maunga Authority's (administrators) multiple websites, brochures, signage and maps that help the public access the 14 maunga which have been owned

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I am offering this as an overview, because I appreciate the gradual editing process and discussion on article Talk pages, particularly for contentious topics. My hope is that we can continue to collaborate in a constructive way to develop encyclopedic content that is clearly sourced to independent

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23:37, 31 March 2023 text added with the edit summary "Added New Zealand Human Rights Commission perspective." When I reviewed this source, I edited the article to clarify the context and attribution (it is an opinion article) and removed what appears to be unsourced content, but also attempted to

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on the Mount Albert suburb page lists suburbs or neighbourhoods and if they have an established reo Maaori name, uses that as well (e.g. Grafton has nothing, but Parnell has Panēra). I'm happy to add more sources that specifically call Mount Albert suburb the suburb Ōwairaka, if you want. It's

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source you're referring to is a booklet published by Auckland Council, which, as stated in the booklet, was written by historian Graeme Murdoch, with stated sources and acknowledgements. My family and I contributed to later parts of the booklet. You are yet to provide evidence that the booklet

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because sources do not appear to describe Keen as engaged in the scale of activity described in the wikilink and the lead should reflect the article content, which is 'billboards, posters, and stickers, and social media', and not use wikilinks that may inadvertantly communicate more than the

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I am trying to collaborate with you and everyone else involved with the article, within the boundaries of the applicable policies and guidelines as I understand them. This is a biography of a living person (which is already a contentious topic area) also within the contentious topic area

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Why take on the "burden" of removing it when the same time and energy could be placed into fixing it? And how is one single quote "overuse"? It’s literally one quote that is not even a full sentence. In no way this an example of an overly long quote, misuse or copyright infringement.

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certain content by reverting on procedural grounds. I've experienced this multiple times when adding clarity or notable information on Keen's objections to the Gender Recognition Act 2004 and its proposed reforms, as I've outlined in four topics in the article's Talk section.

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to upload close-ups of information signs on Wiki Commons. For signs you find in parks and reserves, they count as 2D works, so you'd need to ask the Auckland Council (or DOC if it's a national park) to release the content under a CC-BY license (or public domain or similar).

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spelling is incorrect. If you Google 'Ōmaha and Mahurangi block' you can see various other reliable sources using this spelling, including NZ Parliament's 'Ngāti Manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill, Ngāti Whātua Ōrākei Claims Settlement Bill — Procedure, First Readings'.

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taking it to COIN without talking to you first—you should probably acknowledge your Cs of I, whether on your user page or the article’s talk page. And, if I’m reading the situation correctly, you should avoid further editing to the family history section directly.

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English name. The hill clearly hasn’t had an official name before, so I assume you’re not trying to say that. Maybe you can clarify what your intended point of view is here, because I don’t want to have the same conversation at every turn.

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01:17, 1 April 2023 text added with the edit summary "Added "adult human female" info and restructured for flow." When I reviewed this addition, I noticed several issues. One issue was the addition of content from non-RS

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01:53, 1 April 2023 text added to the first part of the Biography section with the edit summary "Feminist agreement." I initially edited this to remove the Twitter source and copyedit according to the reference

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I tautoko Schwede's comment - I'd also note that BilledMammal has reimplemented their own bold moves in the past (or opposed their reversion), so it seems strange to be calling you out for the same thing here.

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A Māori language source is perfect for showing usage in Māori! The article is about the tree felling controversy, and describes the Mount Albert (suburb)-based protestors from Honour the Maunga protestors as

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article in te reo Māori, so I don't know if it refers to the suburb or not. It seems to be a story about the maunga. Perhaps a Māori language source isn't appropriate for an English WP page? Ngā mihi.

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My apologies, I thought you had - you've just repeatedly blocked others from carrying out the reversions you're asking for, and done it on multiple occasions with article content instead of titles.

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Hey, excuse me for butting in, but I just had a read through this, and while the IP editor here is way out of line—trying to resolve an apparently unrelated content dispute via accusations of COI,

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to say that the volcano (maunga) “regained” the name Pukekawa. It is my read of the situation that the Māori name has existed all along, but has finally been governmentally recognised as the

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The article is also under a consensus-required restriction ("Changes challenged by reversion may not be reinstated without affirmative consensus on the talk page"), so it is similar to the

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at 03:18, 1 April 2023 and I responded to, including at 04:35, 1 April 2023 identifying issues with sources and noting one source that currently seemed usable; discussion continues at

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All my edits are constructive. You reverting with no discussion is disruptive. I have raised three topics in Talk about your reverting. You have raised none about my edits.

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Nice work, had to reword some of the text to avoid copyright violations. Some of the text was the exact same wording as from: heritage.org.nz/the-list/details/98 Regards

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Thanks for that, I see what you mean. I think it'd be good to add another source that's a bit more explicit for people like me not familiar with that website. Ngā mihi.

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All my edits are constructive. And in the case of this article they reflect the article sources and the article itself. I've detailed this on the article Talk page.

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As I've just replied in the article Talk, while you have been constructive in editing some improvements I and others have made to this article, you also seem to be

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as I was busy moving the others at the time. You moved so quickly, I just thought I hadn't done Ōhuiarangi / Pigeon Mountain yet. The other moves you reverted are:

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in progress for the Charles III article. Since you participated in the previous discussion, I thought you might like to know about this one. Cheers.

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