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2164:, I am sure you and I have both looked long and hard at this problem. I have a number of evidences which are not in any of the discussion forums at present and probably you have too. I know that Bellasis makes several glaring mistakes in his pedigree references, and like you I have been very frustrated by them. One cannot take any of them at face value without going to the actual documents cited and checking. I am restricted in what I can say here by professional reasons, but I can say from first-hand knowledge that both Bellasis, and also Mrs de Salis in the NEHGR pedigree, were working from older pedigrees which clearly make Cudworth related to this part of the Machell family, though the generations get garbled. Truly, it is not "thin air". I think it very likely that there is an unpublished College of Arms pedigree (which may or may not be actually correct) which then crept into the sources used, perhaps creatively, by both Salis and Bellasis (who didn't use Salis). I agree with your point 2, that cosen might not mean niece - though equally, it might, and at that date often does. I think you are a little hard on Mr Richardson, though like you I don't just accept what he says uncritically. But when he says he has other reasons for thinking as he does, it's worth remembering that he has a great deal more genealogical knowledge than both of us put together, and there I take him at his word. And we don't actually know whether his conclusion is right or wrong, even if we think we do! The Kingston Bowsey (or "Buci") marriage is interesting. Are you aware of the marriage of Robert Machell in the same church in Southwark as the Cudworth marriage, about 3 years later? And there is a Robert in the Hackney baptisms too. It is all too easy to be "sure", but who knows, your "smoking gun" may someday show up. Best wishes, 3037:

certainly involve a certain amount of loss of data (because many of the "journal" or "series" references are more complicated than allowed for in a simple template, and there is the problem of page-number ref and linkage), and (though the proces of alteration) would open the gates to a general possibility of confusion of data which I am not in a position to monitor. It would, above all, entirely disrupt my attempts to establish a consistent formula of referencing, without bringing any particular benefit. I really do not have the inclination to spend precious time correcting or checking for correction the corrections of another editor to what I have already, with great care, written correctly and consistently.

3032:, so if you change just the journals it will make a hotchpotch of everything I have been doing. I would find it extremely disheartening, and actually a great deterrent to making any further contributions, if this were to happen. If it is done merely to add the names of some journals to a list, the better procedure would be for you to go through my references visually with a notebook and write the journal names down (as I do when I am working on articles), and to add them manually to your list, rather than disrupting the whole system of referencing in an article just to simplify a task of secondary importance to the article itself. 2129:

Mathew and Mary Machell, but not for Mary.) Bellasis gives no indication to support Richardson's thin-air supposition that Bellasis had some sort of document indicating that Mathew and Mary (Lewknor) Machell had a daughter Mary who married Ralph Cudworth. However, perhaps one of Bellasis's sources DID indicate that Mathew and Mary had a daughter Mary, whom Bellasis mistakenly assumed was the wife of Ralph Cudworth, because Bellasis was unaware of the 1617 marriage record of "Marie Mashall" to Rev. James Harrison in Kingston Bowsey, one of the homes of the Lewknors."

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argument. I am also quite aware of Ursula's Cambridge connection at the end, which is not surprising (geographically) since there is a long history as to how she hung onto her part of the estate at Woodbury with and without the help of her son in law William Baber. Interestingly her will makes no mention of any member of her own family: you'd think she might at least have mentioned the Cudworths, as he was only a couple of streets away, if she was Ralph's grandmother, and in 1639 he was quite undecided about his future.

2017:, i.e. in reconsideration of your new evidence, and this should have some weight. It is the easiest thing in the world, to be mistaken. A key word in the conclusion which you quote is "presumed" (children of John and Ursula Machell). I once presumed that too. However the fact that Mathew Machell's son John also appears in the same Hackney baptism register for 1580, on the date exactly matching that given as the day of his birth in Mathew's 1593 I.P.M., means that there 2301: 1542: 898: 2260: 798: 1354: 711: 331: 309: 1989:"Summary, the connection of two of Ursula (Hynde) Machell's first cousins to the household of Prince Henry (whom Mary Machell also served), together with the existence of the 1584 Hackney baptism record of Mary Machell among the presumed children of John and Ursula Machell, together with the fact that Ursula (Hynde) Machell at the end of her life moved to Cambridge, where Ralph Cudworth (Jr.) had just finished his studies and begun his career, 2466: 2583:, as the article strayed off-topic. The earlier article should be primarily about the architect and archaeologist, or perhaps be converted into a disambiguation page if any of the other W. B. Clarkes are notable for their own articles (although in the case of the physician and curator, it appears unlikely). While I am generally in favor of joint biographies for closely related people who are near universally treated as a duo (e.g. 2404: 3094: 3019:

attempting to impose a wholesale change of format on one part of the scholarly mechanism for somewhat arbitrary purposes. I have often collaborated, but what you propose is submission to an order which has no better validity than the order I myself, as author, have adopted. There is no rule in the matter of reference format, but I have aimed for consistency according to an accepted and recognized academic format.

1391: 2514:, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Knowledge (XXG), back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? -- 1334: 1967:(Google)), he sends greetings to his stepmother, and good wishes for their latest infant, and greetings from his brother and sister, but says nothing about his (supposed) grandmother, with whom he would surely have been closely in touch if she had gone there to be near him? And the Hyndes came from Madingley anyway, so it's quite natural that she went back to live in Cambridge. 1983:

to reopen this topic. It seems clear, even to the lay person, that by looking at the evidence without any preconceived notions, the most novice genealogist/historian would conclude that John Machell, and not his brother Matthew, was the actual father of Mary (Machell) Cudworth Soughton. The current conclusion reached after protracted debate by several genealogists is

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because it did not carry an inline citation, which simply left the matter as it really is, still undecided. If a proper publication of the case is available to cite then okay, but, if not, then here it ought to remain based on sources. And here there is room to be a bit more chatty, so please forgive the following continuation!

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is up-to-date. The first part is the important bit, but the second is useful as it can demonstrate the impact of making article open access. However, I think the only way for the report to be updated is if citation templates are used. I've tried to steer clear of your articles until I've had a chance

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Hi Eebahgum, the arguments for John Machell and Ursula Hynde being the correct parents of Mary (Machell) Cudworth Stoughton has already been litigated on several genealogical newsgroups and blog spaces. By informing you of where the current argument stands and the current conclusion wasn't an invite

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The same questions had occurred to me, too. But he had already been categorized under "Irish opera singers" and "Operatic baritones" before I came along, and so I was just rounding out the categories in a logical fashion. If you think other categories would be more apt, please feel free to make the

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Hi, Richard, thankyou for your message and for the courtesy of your question. I can only acknowledge with gratitude the good faith in which it is presented, though you'll see below that, since you do ask, I hope you will understand why my response is not one that is favourable to your suggestion. If

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Lovely to hear from you, and a brilliant 2013 to you in these interesting times. Still here, just about, never pro-active always re-active, which as you know gets boring. I do love humanity though, even via electronic social interactions I see there are fellow wikipedians that work with you who work

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Hello - Glad you've been taking an interest in Benjamin Dale. I see you've simplified the syntax of two sentences I originally wrote. Thank you. Not being grammatician (and being somewhat skeptical of highly prescriptive linguistics), I tend to go by ear and decorum. Here, I feel that the change you

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Thanks for the explanation. Kutsch and Riemens say she did continue to sing at the Opéra up until at least 1863, but there are no details as to the parts she got, so apparently they were not particularly important. I got interested because she appeared briefly at the Théâtre Lyrique near the end of

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Also, you are probably already aware of this resource, but I've found the photo archives here enormously helpful (as well as just intriguing). I didn't know if there might be any related to this subject, but wanted to pass on the resource. It's the Spanton-Jarman Collection of Photographs of Bury St

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1) Richardson appears unaware that there were TWO marriages of two separate women named Mary Machell: In addition to the well-known marriage 1611 of Mary Machell to Ralph Cudworth just outside of London (where the family of John and Ursula Machell was located), there was the 1617 marriage of Mary

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Thanks for your comments. You are quite right that one should not alter references, specially when the search engines used by UK archives can be pathetically inept. And I agree that, as the ancestry of the Whites of South Warnborough contains numerous uncertainties, it is best not to be too precise

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Thanks for that. Interesting about their tastes at the time (Scriabin somehow seems to chime with the extravagance of the sonata). Yes, of course, I'm preparing a list of Keel compositions... Looking forward to getting it done. And this conversation will encourage me to get back to the Dale article

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Actually in many cases if an article exists on Wikisource (DNB) then ODNB is an update. If the old text is reviewed (and updates it where necessary), then both authors are credited with the word (review) next to the 21st century author. I think you make a valid point about the wording in prescript

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I put it to you that far more people have access to the online edition than the physical book. This is particularly true for many Knowledge (XXG) editors (who are the ones who tend to check the text against the citations). The OUP have embraced online and receive revenue through paid subscriptions

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useful than it could be. Andrew Undershaft rationalises his amorality: "Remember the Armorer's Faith. I will take an order from a good man as cheerfully as from a bad one. I can make cannons: I cannot make courage and conviction." Just so here: Knowledge (XXG) (the Undershaft) can make articles

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However I am going to add a footnote to the J.C. article referencing your wikitree link at this point and I hope that will be honour satisfied until somebody brings the argument round the other way again. I will put a copy of this reply on your talkpage where I originally posted my message to you.

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Ralph Cudworth went to Emmanuel College Cambridge because both his father and his stepfather had been there before him, and the college was then sympathetic to their religio-political standpoint. Their (the fathers') connection with Cambridge was at a time when John Machell (the supposed father of

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Thanks for your note. I ordered Nick Higham's book about Ecgfrith yesterday, so Anglo-Saxon England remains well ahead of sexual dimorphism among spiders (did I really edit that?) in my affections. Unfortunately, I don't seem to have much time to write these days, but hope springs eternal. All the

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Thank you very much for your helpful and interesting reply. I'll certainly reflect on your points about "encyclopaedic" style — something I've been trying to come to grips with in the last few months. It's also a good feeling to have the chance to correspond with a person who has a connection with

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Hi Eebahgum - I notice that you blanked an article you had started because it "wasn't good enough". Just because a couple of concerns were raised about it doesn't mean that it was no good - the standard way articles are built on Knowledge (XXG) is to start with a less-than-perfect article and then

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The effort that has gone into ensuring your articles are well referenced and consistently is very clear, which is what gave me pause for thought before making the edits. In many cases where I've been tweaking the references I've been adding missing information (eg: an author or article title) but

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I am quite aware of the Hackney baptisms as it was I who pointed them out to Ms Boaz in the first place, after inspecting the original register in person, and she acknowledges me in her text - and her work is the source cited in the discussions about this problem in favour of the John side of the

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Looking again at the references for the article, none of the items with the name Gainsford in them are in quotation marks, which would suggest that the text follows an original form and which I would not have altered without checking against the original. Nor do any have online links to resources

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Dear EBG, thanks for your comments. Actually the Braham article probably needs general rewriting - it's largely a paraphrase of the section on Braham in my own book, and at the very least the various quotations need citing. The Hazlitt quote is excellent, and I hadn't come across it before - many

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In the images I was editing, "300" is not a valid size format. Since it wasn't specified properly as a size (it needs "px" after the number to be valid), it was seen as an attempt at an image caption instead (which is a problem, because an image caption already exists). My choices were to either

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Anyhow, these are stray thoughts. But until there is a proper published article on this bringing all the evidence up to date, people will just keep adding in favour of Matthew or John, and the answer will still be the same - it is undecided. I hope I have not given offence in just trying to keep

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Though many sources claim that Margaret Gainsford's husband Robert White was a knight, some even making him a Knight of the Bath, I can't find a reliable online record of his will, monument or IPM, any of which would indicate his rank with certainty, and the Robert White who served as sheriff of

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The honest and direct answer is, that I really very much hope you won't go through all the articles I have worked at length on, replacing the journal references with your template. Since I started editing here in 2006 it took me a while to get up to speed with adequate referencing - things were

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This statement appears to be a rather gross error. Bellasis indicates sources at various places on his pedigree, including "C.21, C. 26, etc.", but at the location of Mary Machell and Ralph Cudworth his source is NOTHING AT ALL. (Bellasis DOES give specific sources for some of the children of

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Eebahgum, you stated "Douglas Richardson, who is a highly experienced and knowledgeable genealogist, has expressed the opposite opinion..." I should point out that Richardson is not without error and has made some gross errors in regard to this parentage issue. Someone's "reputation" is not a

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Hi, Lionheart0317, Thanks for your reply on the James Cudworth talkpage. I'm replying here because it would be a pity to clutter up the J.C. talkpage a with a long continuation of all the discussion that takes place elsewhere on this subject. The only reason I reverted your good faith edit was

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The formats of the references are therefore as I have intended them to be, and you will find that in almost every case the references are directly linked to the page in the source text. To change them all would be unnecessary in relation to your first reason for wanting to do it, would almost

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I believe that, if you had spent the amount of time which I have spent, carefully searching out the details of these sources, and presenting them in a full and regularized format, in order to support the article texts so painstakingly assembled and written, you would hesitate further before

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Reverting my changes also brought the errors back. Since it's apparently your preference to keep the images at the default size thumbnails generate, I've removed the numbers in their entirety (even though this clashes with the intent of the editor who put those numbers there to begin with).

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I've found with some lithos and paintings too, that there is so much superfluous border "stuff" or blank canvas surrounding the person that it's hard to make them stand out. In some cases, I've actually used Photoshop to crop a pic, then reloaded it back up to Commons and a second version.

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Mary) was in and out of prison in London for debt, his wife and children were not speaking to him, and he was in the process of disinheriting his son and heir John (son of 1st wife Frances Cotton) in favour of his grandson. Have you read the chapter by Mike Gray on the Machells in the book

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either the creator of it or someone else improves it. In this case, the main problem was simply the way the article was cited and is something which should be relatively simple to fix - it certainly is good enough as the start of an article, simply one that needs a little work!

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Apologies for worrying you! I appreciate that someone randomly popping up and asking if they can make lots of changes to something finely tuned would give cause for concern. I'd been wondering how to put my question for a while for that reason, and did not get it quite right.

1207:, then I have no trouble changing it. In an instance such as this, where an argument can be made for the choices already decided upon, I'd rather leave well enough alone with my edits and have the debate another way. If that makes any sense - I promise it does in my head. -- 2012:

Okay, But this is not a situation in which the appearances to "the most novice genealogist/historian" (to use your terms) ought to have much weight. Douglas Richardson, who is a highly experienced and knowledgeable genealogist, has expressed the opposite opinion to this

1939:(2004)? I don't agree with one or two points but it is very well-referenced and gives some idea of the horrible entanglements which John got himself and all his relations into. Even this is not exhaustive, and yet Gray has read a great many of the lawsuits. 2997:

to check how you feel about citation templates since I know some prefer to format references in their own way for various reasons. So would you mind if I edited some of the references in your articles as suggested above? No worries if you'd prefer I don't.

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3) Richardson falsely states that "Mr. Bellasis indicated that Mary Machell, wife of Rev. Ralph Cudworth, was duly recorded as a daughter of Matthew Machell and Mary Lewknor in manuscript sources found in the College of Arms, which he styled 'C. 21, C. 26,

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Thanks for your note. I guess that I just felt that it was difficult to make out her features with that very dark background, especially as it was the prime pic of the article, the first thing you see. But I've no objection to having both in there.

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P.S. I apologise, Ursula does mention one family member, her nephew Robert Hynde. No Machells or Cudworths though. And when Ralph wrote to his stepfather for advice about taking a fellowship, in 1639, shortly before John Stoughton died (T. Solly,

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Many thanks for the transcription of his MI, which offers first-hand proof of his status (it would be “miles” rather than “armiger” if he were a knight) and of his year of death (1512, rather than the 1513 which appears all over the internet).

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it last weekend and was very impressed. From the program notes I get the impression that it is no less than the complete apocalypse, unchanged words for essential passages, summarising poetry for the others. - The one who gave us the gem

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that wouldn't be the case in the articles you've worked on as they already contain all relevant bibliographic information. I certainly wouldn't want to disrupt a system that is working well, so I'll leave things as they are.

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Perhaps you look here sometimes. William Waterhouse was moved to (bassoonist) which I don't like, he was so much more than that. You may be interested in a concert in his honour at Wigmore Hall 16 April, - wish I could go.

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For future reference, however, if you don't like the resulting sizes, please don't completely revert my changes and restore the errors in the process. Adjust the sizes yourself to what you think is best instead. Refer to

565:? A bit further down the line, I hope to contact the RAM to try to fill in some obvious information gaps in Keel's biography, and maybe access publishable photos of both men. I appreciate your thoughts. Best wishes-- 1589: 1556: 912: 1775:, where people can check for themselves. What I've done is to insert the following note: “In the sources, the family name may appear in the standard form of Gainsford or as the archaic Gaynesford or Gaynesforde.” 1247:. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose 3014:

you trouble to look at the edit histories of the articles I have worked on over the past few years, you'll see that a good deal of my time is spent in this work, freely given, and I hope given with great care.

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Although this particular article has not been updated (Published in print: 23 September 2004, Published online: 23 September 2004) the OUP often update articles and when they do it is to the online edition.

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I made some more alterations based on Huebner's book on Gounod's operas and Anne Williams' essay plus some additional sources, which add more detail and hopefully help to clarify the situation a bit more.

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the template and I personally would be happy to change "The first edition of this text is available at Wikisource" to "Superseding", and I would support such a change, but it is something to propose at "

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a lifelong friend" because "would become" seems to avoid technical ambiguity after "another". Also, the friendship may not have been so immediate. However, I wouldn't want to make a big issue of this.--

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I concur with Grutness on his point. Some citations would be most helpful. But the tie to the poet John Donne, as well as the obvious work in the panels, makes the entry potentially most interesting.

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Everyday I try to find an opera item related to the day, today I found this. Only rarely do I look further at the history, - today I did because was written well and with a heart: I found you! --

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certification of accuracy for any lineage or genealogical matter. On a website where many "respected and accomplished" genealogists write opinions, one such genealogist recently stated:

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Not sure where this time period will take us and the rest of the world, the danger of living in interesting times! Hope you are well, wherever you physically are these days, take care.

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Hi Eebahgum, I noticed that you've written quite a few articles relating to Kent and Sussex. So it's possible you might have noticed me on your watchlist fiddling with references like

1904:. Can you give us more lead, please? - A friend always told me I have to listen to it, but I didn't manage yet. I linked from a singer who performed it at the Salzburg Festival ;) -- 2029:

the children of John and Ursula Machell: indeed the opposite is proveably true. Does that appear in your blogspots and forums? If not, then their conclusions are merely provisional.

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for DYK, if you want to take a look. I remember your help with Klaus Mertens, who was mentioned in a recent discussion. His student, whom he replaced in 2009, will now come to sing

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Thank you for the citation. Didn't mean to be an ogre, but sometimes on wikipedia there's so much added that one has to ask for a source. Your contributions are most welcome. Best,

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thanks for this. At some point I will indeed redo the article and cite at least part of it; or of course you are welcome to add it yourself. At the moment I am rather tied up with

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made in the second of the two sentences (the one about Bowen) is a definite improvement. On the other hand I tend to prefer "...Arnold Bax, another promising pianist-composer who

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hello, once again our ships sail pas each other. lots of personal news which when i see you again i will tell of (sounds a bit like a saga!) but can you please have a look at

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read it, did not grasp it, re-read it and stunning thoughtful and far far too honest.....You should think about putting it out into the tweeterspheere or something. Thanks

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But I have no fixed views on this on the Cruvelli article, so feel free to replace and/or add in the other in an appropriate place. All the best for 2015. Happy editing!

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and also says she appeared at the Opéra-Comique (K&R don't mention this), and says "ses belles notes graves, rapporte Théophile Gautier, électrisaient les salles". --

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I've been trying to give some of the opera articles some visual enhancement, if only to avoid huge chunks of text going on and on.....I think I used the latest one on

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earlier on and realized that our paths hadn't crossed for ages and ages. I hope you are well, or at least better, and that 2014 has started well. All the very best,

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became available online a couple of months ago. The early ones are available on the Internet Archive as you've seen, but now the later volumes can be consulted too.

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I only know thanks to you, used a more lady-like one further below. Btw Messiah's parts are on the Main Page for the rest of the day, improvements welcome, --

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correct the formatting or delete the number, and my natural instinct is to correct the formatting, since this was probably the size other editors intended.

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if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the

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Thanks for your note, good for my heart! (Is there an English word for wohltuend?) Smiling I discovered yesterday that it was you who created Schmidt's

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Btw, I wanted to thank you also for casting your eagle eye over the Keel article. It's good to know there's nothing obviously too far wrong about it!--

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A year ago, you were the sixth recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, it still applies (your remark archived again, should be returned again), repeated in

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You have asked my opinion, and that is it. I don't see what more I can say. At any rate, thankyou for giving me the chance to say it. Best wishes,

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Please be aware of what I was doing in adjusting the image sizes that I did. I was changing those options to remove Lint errors (refer to

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Hampshire in 1506 (if it was him) does not seem to have been a knight. So, in the absence of convincing evidence, I've demoted him.

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As you can see, someone's reputation or analysis means nothing, especially when it contains errors in forming a conclusion. --

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2) Richardson falsely assumes that, in the 1646 will of John Machell (son of Mathew), that cosen/kinswoman can ONLY mean niece.

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The article looks good and improved. I don't know much about the subject though. I made Turner's article because it was in the

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article you created. There are two citations that need page numbers. Do you still have the access to the two books? Thanks

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Nice to see you active! - I added to some members of the Melos Ensemble recently. - How do you like the dream on my talk? --

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to

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when will this far away part be completed, will you be replenished and refreshed rather than used up? You are missed.

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Play the piano and then look at the picture book, memories of many more friends besides Stockhausen. - I'm finishing

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looser in the earlier times - but over the past 6 or 7 years I have been, I hope, VERY consistent and thorough. The

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Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Knowledge (XXG) appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited

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particularly from libraries both public and university. This is true for a host of their publications including:

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with others, who in turn have worked with me. Maybe there is hope for us all. Are you keeping well and busy?

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chamber music prize on 18 February, a more pleasant task. Visit my user page, for glimpses on my life, --

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indicates that John Machell, and not his brother Matthew, was the father of Mary (Machell) Cudworth

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Dale himself. Can I perhaps interest you in a colleague of Dale's at the Royal Academy of Music,

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Many thanks. I'm glad you created such an article, and happy you're linking them. Best regards,

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My response, after lengthy discussion both at Wikitree and on SGM's 'Machell of London' thread:

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on pixillated morality which I archived but returned, to remind us what to avoid, - you are an

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Should James Ludwig read William Ludwig? If so you can link to William Ludwig (singer). Noel

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that I have created. Could really need some help with it. Any help is appreciated. Regards,--

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became known as a pioneer for the unconventional, family-friendly environments she created?

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Just saw your latest note. This one is still on Commons at ] but not on that website....

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There is nothing wrong with a stand alone reference, but what wrong with updating it?

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Two last points (1) the location of the DNB articles on Wikisource have moved from:

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I know you would prefer to bow out of this, but it has come up again, see

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s:Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900/Beckford, William (d.1799)

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Got it duh it was in the title of the section. Answer within 24 hours. –

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about Robert Hungerford. Given an odd moment, I'll correct both points.

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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Knowledge (XXG)

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very droll :| I found who I was looking for, an Australian geologist.

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Graeme on the Main page right now (McMahon before), I like it,

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Richardson's 'certification' was premature at the very least.

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The first edition of this text is available at Wikisource:

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Richardson appears to have made three separate errors here.

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the question on Edmunds Talk Page about the A/S chronicle

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who is proving rather troublesome. All best for 2014 - --

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Sheridan, R.B. (2004). "Beckford, William (1744–1799)".

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A page you started (Geoffrey Chamber) has been reviewed!

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Peace or: 10,000 Easter eggs for you, top of my talk, --

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article, and not using a template, then please use the

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A page you started (Anthony Earbury) has been reviewed!

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By the way, in case it's useful the whole run of the

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