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state of panic induced by the world media" is a classic example of what is considered Emo. All the other bands that fall into this category have one thing in common other than music style, they are unable to deal with the real world and the success they have generated and generally go around feeling sorry for themselves and their percieved problems, this is exactly what is presented in the quote above. This is not a bad thing, it is just how the bands attempt to relate to their disenfranchised fans.
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most certainly have) it is unclear in the definition whether all members of the band need to have done so. This debate continues on the supergroup discussion page and it seems that a consensus has been reached that bands that replace a member with an unknown or relatively unknown and change the name of the band should not qualify. I think this gives reasonable grounds to reconsider the notion of the panic channel being a supergroup. Any thoughts? 132.181.7.1 22:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
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I'm also thinking about putting audio samples on the site. I have all the CDs, but I don't have Cold and Jaded (obviously). I don't want to put a stream-rip from MySpace in the article, so do you know how I can get access to a CD-quality version of the song? An MP3 is okay but a WAV file is ideal;
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In terms of their genre, I think that it is a bit strong to completely disregard the possibility that they are Emo just because of the negative connotations that you may associate with the term. If anything, what is on the page wholly supports the argument. For example, "The band's name refers to a
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Wow, that didn't take long to read. There isn't much of a page for "new prog." That being said, they still don't fit the definition given there. It says that there are only progressive elements in "new prog" bands. If you read what I posted about their first album, that is most definitely not the
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again for the site i got the information from and this time, i will be sure to state my source at the end in the References section and at the end of the Requirements section. And if you encounter a problem with it this time do not delete it, just tell me and i will be happy to correct it.
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I have heard "Capricorn (A Brand New Name)", "Edge of the Earth " and "Buddha for Mary" and they seemed more like artistic alternative rock with industrial elements. I like several songs by them, and I don't hate them at all. I just don't think they are progressive.
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page. We have already discussed how they are progressive in the discussion page, so please read. Their first album was progressive. Please read the discussion and stop changing the page. If it continues, I will seek help in dealing with you. Thank you.
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if you have the single handy I can help you rip it (I'm a computer guy). You can then mail it to me so I can take a clip from it, compress it, and put it in the article. If you can't, I'll just wait for the CD to come out before putting it up.
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Also, the article needs more pictures. I noticed during my research that you're pretty active on the Adema forums. So you probably know of people who have pictures of the band playing live; if you do, could you send them to me?
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Wow, just looked at it, and it looks awesome! You did an amazing job! If I had much time I was going to go through it, but it looks like you did a better job than I ever could. Great work!
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energy inside and outside the room when we create these songs ... we like to think of creating music as a way to channel the panic into something tangible," as stated by Navarro"
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