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as Evile and Gama Bomb) and the new 'dark metal' subgenre pioneered by bands like Agalloch. It's also not exactly 'modern' when you consider that bands have been playing in this style since the mid-90s.Metalcore basically started when you had hardcore punk bands that started incorporating elements from the more extreme metal subgenres, in particular; melodic death metal (bands like At The Gates, Suffocation, later Carcass), groove metal (bands like Pantera, Machine Head) and thrash metal, (bands like Slayer, Megadeth, Testament and earlier Metallica) into the hardcore punk roots they were already playing. (incidentally, thrash metal is also a fusion between metal and hardcore punk, as is groove metal.) Bands like Earth Crisis, Integrity, Converge, Hatebreed, and Shai Hulud amongst others pioneered this style. The term 'metalcore' is a contraction of 'metallic hardcore' which was the moniker originally applied to the genre. As for hardcore punk itself, that is basically just a faster, heavier (but not because its influenced by metal; playing 'heavy' does not automatically mean you are playing 'metal'), more abrasive form of punk rock. Musically, it's not that far removed from punk itself. Important bands include Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Minor Threat, etc. The term 'hardcore' is basically shorthand for this.

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hardcore punk and heavy metal. Metalcore is known for its emphasis on breakdowns and heavy guitar riffs. Screamed vocals dominate metalcore. Singing is usually present, but the emphasis is on screamed vocals. A lot of bands that are casually referred to as "hardcore" or "metal" are actually metalcore

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Hi, I saw your comment on the metalcore page, and thought that I'd reply. I'm by no means an expert, but I know the general differences. Hardcore punk is basically a harder, noisier, more abrasive form of punk. Metalcore is a combination of heavy metal, particularly extreme metal, with hardcore punk.

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I think saying metalcore has 'practically taken over the heavy metal musicscene' is strentching things a bit far tbh. There's plenty of new metal styles that have little or nothing to do with metalcore; such as djent bands like TesseracT and Textures, the current revival of thrash metal, (bands such

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other styles of music, and are often closely associated with alternative rock or punk. What identified post-hardcore, though, is the inclusion of hardcore punk elements like screamed vocals. If a band uses screamed vocals and heavy instrumentation, but is not heavy enough to be considered metalcore,

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I hope this helps. :) The best way to become familiar with these different genres is to read the "Characteristics" section on their respective Knowledge (XXG) pages. It can be confusing to differentiate all these genres, but after a little while you'll be able to tell the difference pretty quickly.

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Yeah for Mikey well he met Alicia when he toured with From First To Last in 2005 for the christmassacre and she also toured with them and like Mikey played bass for them both in the same year to be percise, i think once Mikeys is accepted we should do Matt Pelisser's, if we can we can translate the

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are derivatives of rock. Those two genres are very general and encompass a HUGE variety of music. Hardcore punk is an abrasive form of punk rock with screamed vocals. What separates hardcore punk and heavy metal is that hardcore punk genres are generally more experimental and abrasive, while heavy

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Yeah so for Bob's page, I know he didn't do some of the albums with MCR, but I've been leaving the discography as it was because if I delete the other albums then something happens to the references. Like a "cite error", as you probably notice. I guess we'll just have to find out how to get rid of

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Good idea, it does seem like the Spanish article has quite a bit. It sure wouldn't hurt to start one for Matt anyways. In terms of discography, I don't think Knowledge (XXG) likes if we were to put the band's entire discography on. ALTHOUGH I think if we were to just list them all (i.e. not have

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I agree absolutely as well, your a huge help in this little fiasco, friginator edits like a robot without any regard to interpretation, its insane! Thank you for all your help! and can you fix up the genre for the ghost of you that song still says pop/rock for some reason.

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Okay great, i've added some references, sources and more. And once Mikeys is submitted we should start on the touring member "Michael Pedicone" but yeah one Mikeys is submitted or once Ray's is, i don't know about Bob's, and Matt's isn't complete yet.

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Hi Ericdeaththe2nd, I came just ask your cooperation to participate in a discussion that I created on the talk page of etf, to put an end to the etf is screamo or not, enter in the discussion and give your opinion about it in the

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Thanks that clearers it up alot, And yeah i know what Post-Hardcore means i guess in my opinion its Hardcore Punk but focuses on singing more then screamed vocals, but that clearers it up alot more thanks :)

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Okay great i've added Sources, and more. I think once Mikeys is submitted or once Ray's is complete we should do the touring member "Michael Pedicone", i don't know about Bob's yet but Matt's is nowhere near

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Okay but usually people start to call them by there married Zaniab Khan and Mandy Beale both seem like names you can say with out being odd but I do see your point, let me know if there are any changes

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RAY'S PAGE WAS ACCEPTED?!?! Wow! Well thank you for asking for the submission, it wouldn't be a real article now if it wasn't for you! I think we should try Mikey's again anyways. Thanks again!

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well if the pages names were redirected to another page and didn't have a page of its own that was only way and idk how to remove the redirect, secondly those pages are the ones i hate created

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Hello, I saw your recent edits to My Chemical Romance albums; putting "post-hardcore" in the genre box. I agree with you, but a user keeps reverting all of those genre change attempts. :/

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for the "Christmassacre" tour, due to the fact that bassist Jon Weisberg had left the band. Way met his wife-to-be, bassist and fellow touring member Alicia Simmons, on this tour."

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