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OK, I do intend to tell you, for the sake of your aching brain. The problem lies in the fact that you use the same user name on wiki and on the said debating site, while I do not. Unfortunately, I don't want to give away my name on the site, but I will give you a clue that is sure to let you know who
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I'm more concerned about the green hue it leaves on the rest of the discussion page. O_o You probably forgot to add a closing line of code or something. Do you know how to limit the hue to the welcome message? I'm not angry about this or anything, it just bugs me a bit. Other than that, thanks a lot
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Heh, I have no problem with you saying any of that. Perhaps I worded it badly. I didn't mean that I become infuriated, just that I always take criticism on board and always attempt todo something about it, even if I don't show it in the debate at hand. Thanks for the comments though, sorry If i came
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I also think the ĂĄ/Ă diacritic system I use here is the exact same as what the French use to differentiate between the two possible pronunciations of a vowel. I based it on the diacritics that the Dutch often use to clarify which pronunciation should be used, and I wouldn't be surprised if they (we)
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English are maybe Umlaute (Ă€, ö, ĂŒ)? My native language is German and I speak French, so I thought the "ĂĄ" and the "Ă " had something to do with French (like "Ăš" and "Ă©").
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Hi Fyrius! :) Thank you for the communications. I am not getting the same phenomenon on my computer so I am unaware of it. It could be I left out a closing tag in the code or something like that. Thank you for pointing this out to me, I'll debug it after I investigate the problem. I know it's a lot
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