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Rajeshbee, I mostly see Tamil films which I haven't even heard of. I just wanted to make some useful contributions & it's not like I'm getting paid or anything. If you wanna help a fellow contributor, the you can do so, or else I'll just be another guy who is gonna tell everyone about the incompetency of Knowledge admins & how poorly they handle users
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was not my sockpuppet, then it must be the user with which I had the edit war I mentioned earlier. I assumed that it was my sock puppet since I saw that name on my
Revision history. This was 6 years back & I don't even remember the name of the temporary account I created for an edit war. I guess
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Look. Either you tell me how exactly I can convince you guys or what you actually mean by a convincing reply. I don't know how to convince you guys that I don't have any sock puppet when you yourself are adamant that I have & when I ask for proof you won't show me. I remember the story of a man
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808:& the created articles by him are mostly Tamil film articles. I'm from a place called Kerala & my language is Malayalam & I don't even know Tamil, except understanding a few words. I would relly like you guyz to remove the block so that I could continue with my small contributions.
702:& the created articles by him are mostly Tamil film articles. I'm from a place called Kerala & my language is Malayalam & I don't even know Tamil, except understanding a few words. I would relly like you guyz to remove the block so that I could continue with my small contributions.
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as an admin, you have the power to check it. And I no longer respect the so called respected editors anymore as they've made the biggest blunder in considering my user as a sockpuppet of some other person. Again, please tell me how I'm supposed to dispute against it with a higher authority.
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