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Okay, thanks for the clarification. Regarding my own edit, the source is from 1985, which was long before it was released on video or TV (not to mention India had a low market penetration of TVs and video players back then), so it's clearly referring to the box office (where ticket prices were also
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That is not actually true. the Bruce Lee films such as The Big Boss were called mandarin film. Bruce Lee did not even speak mandarin. The Cantonese voice was not his either. Nowadays, people in Hong Kong most likely watch Bruce Lee films in Cantonese.
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Well, as a compromise, let's put a (dubbed) after Cantonese. Would you accept it then? It's certainly not going to be dubbed in other languages, perhaps only with subtitles with their native language?
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guess is if Hollywood films were to compete against the current 3 Chinese films, Hollywood films would still win everytime while Chinese films will maybe gross 100m less than the current amount.
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