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you are a great biologist who can insist this without references, then please accept my humble apologies and don't get arrogant and bellicose because of one brief edit. If you take issue with the details of what seemed a harmless simplification, then re-edit. I haven't even gone back to that page. I did not think a long, hyper-parenthetical etymological digression was appropriate for the lede, though a better-written clarification would be fine lower down. I also detect a soupçon of arrogance and bellicosity. "You do not mention your biological accomplishments" - I have none, and don't claim any. What was that meant to mean? "Circumscriptural habit"? Um... quite awesome word you're using there... please give me a reference to a definition. Now, no-one mentioned an edit war. Please 'assume good faith', and Knowledge will be a nice place for everyone. I have had a particularly hard couple of months just with the people I know in real life, so the last thing I need is to get harangued by people I've never met, thanks. P.S. etymology is not biology.

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engravings might be Australian Aboriginal, then we can put that in, with proper sources... but otherwise I do think it's just silly. Astronomy in the sense of describing formal physical laws of the heavens? Surely not. In the sense of keeping an in-depth account of the workings of the heavens, even if superstition takes over? Well, early Mesopotamian records etc. are surely more deserving of that... In the sense of keeping a note of the cycles of the moon? Well, their African and Asian ancestors would certainly have done that too, like anyone who spends any time outdoors... and there's a supposed lunar timekeeping bone in Swaziland that has been put forward as much older than anything else (though it's extremely iffy, to say the least, like anything like this would be before the invention of writing).

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Will get to adding references ASAP. Though not most obscure journal, and just need to format the link I already have (not the journal site but the UIUC webpage on it) underneath a References section. That should cover most of it. The reference for the contents of the first volume of the journal is...

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Ladino was not spoken in Spain but developed in the Ottoman Empire by Jews who left Spain in the fifteenth century. The text you removed was correct. See Howard Sachar Farewell Espana page 95. I tried to undo your change but was was not able to because of subsequent edits. Could you take care of

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Thanks for the link to the site. I see nothing wrong with discussing Australian Aboriginal astronomy, but there cannot possibly be any way that we can write that Australian Aboriginal astronomy is the oldest in the world - a fairly meaningless statement. If it is the case that the oldest astronomical

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was "This is just silly - an overenthusiastic ABC broadcast is referred to, but in prehistory we can only presume their (Asian) ancestors looked at the night sky too... as for other peoples, and a definition of 'astronomy', and evidence". While it is my opinion that the content of the reference may

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Fynbos DOES mean 'fine bush', this much is certain. The original statement had no references, but there are several references to the leaves being the factor. The original page didn't have refs for this - mine merely simplified things, so it didn't either. If this is more complex than thought, and

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Could you please explain why you altered the lede to the article on fynbos? You do not mention your biological accomplishments, but you surely must have been aware of the nature of fynbos before undertaking to alter the text. What gave you the impression that all fynbos has ericoid leaves and that

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The site does seem to be fairly partisan, with very little in the way of peer-reviewed academic formality. People always use superlatives too easily - people who find even an ancient toothpick in their country tend to jump to calling it's 'the world's oldest toothpick!!!' without ever checking the

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and a number of other articles in WP. The remark on your biological accomplishments was meant to mean that if you have none, that might explain a misunderstanding, but that if you were biologically advanced, I would like to know just why the term apparently was used circumscripturally in such a

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The articles in the categories linked above are over 90% of the job. There are probably also articles that do not currently cite Ethnologue, but which we might want to update with the 18th edition. I'll need to generate another category to capture those, probably after most of the

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I half-accept your half-acknowledgement of civilities. Are you a biologist with major accomplishments? Maybe you are - I can genuinely say I don't know, but this is irrelevant. However, I know the word 'circumscription'. I also know the word 'circumscriptive'. I do not know the word

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just came out, and if we divide up our language articles among us, it won't take long to update them. I would appreciate it if you could help out, even if it's just a few articles (5,000 articles is a lot for just me), but I won't be insulted if you delete this request.

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I think it was still two sentences, but the topic is perhaps so vast that the only lead that could do it justice must be as vague as possible - however, I've put in a bit more which might do some more justice to the issue, though still not really ideal.

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like to know if you have any suggestions or ideas on how to best summarize the article in order to improve the lead. I am not nearly as familiar with this article and topic as I am with others and would appreciate hearing your input. tyvm

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this is the circumscriptural attribute, rather than ericoid habit, that gave rise to the name? I am reinstating the description as it stood. Please discuss the matter with me before starting an edit war.

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does not provide a date for the bulk of the population, just enter "no date" in the date field. But if the population figure is undated, and hasn't changed between the 17th & 18th editions of

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