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article, but I can't print from this computer. If you can print stuff that'd be cool, but if not, I'm going to hand write some stuff (hoping Moon will not mind that). Get back to me if you decide to print any information.
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I just checked the bag I used on that day, and it is still sitting in there, surprise! I loaded it with new batteries, and I'll try to remember to get it to you tomorrow. --
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Oh good call thanks for showing me that site. Your right it was a Papilio polyxenes not a pipevine. Im off to change that right now. Thanks again.--
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