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code on South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas I don't know for sure when I'll do that rerun but It probably won't be too long from now. I'd rather not see you fret with doing it manually when I already have the infrastructure in place to automate it I just have to write the code to look for them. Also just for clarification is the link you provided the only one that is suppose to be used and all the other ones I've seen should be changed, because I've seen about 10 different variations of that link.
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I think we are suppose to only add NEW wikilinks to the actual article instead of the redirect. I updated 2010 census for almost the entire state of Kansas before I discovered that it changed. So my point is...if you are going to touch all of the cities, then please change it to the correct article
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Nebraska just hasn't good to me so far, but ya that error was a result of the new code I copy and pasted your paragraph into my program then edited the numbers to be method calls forgot about the city thing I just have to change it to city.getType() (As you can see coming from Iowa were everything is
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No problem it was my mistake so it was mine to fix. Also as far as your proposed change goes It's not looking like anybody is going to reply a lot of the comments on that page never got replies and those that did got them within a day. I would liked to have had some more input on the proposed change,
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I'll cleanup a few this weekend as well since I had a bug that will require some minor edits to correct, but when ever I rerun North Dakota and Iowa to update them to the revised third paragraph and date their income info I'll code something to clean up those links then I'll turn around and run that
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Hey there sorry for the confusion as to which page I left a comment on. Specifically, the info box is of course accurate, HOWEVER, the article itself, the intro has the 2010 figure and so, you have an info box with a 2012 estimate and the article proper with a 2010 figure. I went ahead and adjusted
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Coolness. Thanks for the update. I too didn't know there'd been a discussion and consensus reached about it. I mostly just sit in my little corner of the world working on
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The world isn't going to end if you don't do it. I'll cleanup Kansas manually as I touch various cities. I've seen people and bots go through articles replacing various redirects with correct article names, so I know there is some group of people that thinks its important to change them. I'm not
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I'm using my own semi-automated program at this point I have to do two clicks per edit during which I quickly scan for any mess ups. I have been slowly working it towards fully automated as I go along so that I can hopefully catch things like this before I completely let it loose, and it won't take
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Yes, I can fix it I was aware of the differences since I have a script that parses wiki pages to grab the links to all cities in a given state, which requires me to look for cities, towns, villages, etc. I just forgot to make the change to that part of my code to reflect that and it also turns out
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Any chance of rewriting the boilerplate and auto-fixing it at some future point? The third paragraph strikes me as poorly written: it should really lead with the median age, as a single summary statistic for the age distribution, and should eliminate "the population was spread out", which sounds
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Looks good, and thanks for the fix. I'm sorry we didn't get some comments, since it would've been good to get some more input. However, I recall that six months or a year ago, there was some discussion somewhere about changing the boilerplate; the consensus seemed to be that it would be a good
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Ok I see that now on the Cedar Falls page but you might as well undo that one too like your reverting all of my other perfectly legitmate edits just because they were automated doesn't mean the data isn't correct and legitimate you could at least wait for the yah or nah from the bot page before
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with an explanation and a link — basically, the legislature abolished the classification of "town" and redesignated each town as a village or a city. Unfortunately, the Census Bureau doesn't seem to have picked up on this fact yet. Thanks for the good work on the demographics!
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The median age in the city was 33.5 years. 25.1% of residents were under the age of 18; 11.4% were between the ages of 18 and 24; 27.9% were from 25 to 44; 24.4% were from 45 to 64; and 11.4% were 65 years of age or older. The gender makeup of the city was 49.2% male and 50.8%
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Never mind I was just mistaken, I looked at my svn and I've actually only seen 2 versions the one you told me to use and the one I was using before I was thinking I'd seen a lot more due to having seen quite a bit a variation in what comes after the
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I'd probably just put that data back in by hand rather than rewrite something to do that since you seem to have purged over half my edits and I can probably do that many edits by hand faster than coding something from scratch and testing
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I reverted my change. Using the census defintion is a good approach. Identifying a small town like Kimball (pop. 700) as a city is debatable, but that is the census defintion and they do have a city council. Keep up the good work!
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the articles themselves to relfect the 2012 estimate. Good job by the way. A few of the WV counties still has data from 2000, that was fun. However, I was able to update those as well. Many thanks
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No big deal about the auto function. If you are doing an automated update, then do whatever works. When I updated all the cities in Kansas, it was easier to go this route by hand.
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There was basically a travel brochure on the page telling you of friendly people and majestic mountains, much appreciate the removel of the tag, I removed the "data" that was there
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