User talk:JackofOz/Archive 19

2195:...I'm being followed. My watchlist has just lit up like a firework display: Melba, Stanford, Bliss, Wood, Elgar, Harty, Sullivan et al. Sterling work on the cats! I think it's pushing it a bit to call Wood a composer. The occasional arrangement isn't quite the same, I'd say, but I don't press the point. I also boggle a bit at including Dames like Melba in the category Singers who have received knighthoods, but I shan't stick my oar in further. Regards as always. 1610: 31: 3233:

knowledge and his ready wit. Those things have their place, but not when "How knowledgeable and witty I am" become the thing itself. His fawning admirers and acolytes will probably tar and feather me at their first opportunity for having the outrageous temerity to say these things about someone who to them is, if not a god, surely at least an apprentice god - but I don't care. I'll take what's coming to me. Like a man. :) --

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being asked for reasons other than simply wanting to know the answer, it's this: Play a straight bat (to use a cricketing analogy). Treat the question absolutely literally, in this case solely as a botanical question. Do not engage them in stuff they haven't raised (the Bible, religion, whatever else you

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However, that was just the tip of the iceberg. All the other shit that happened both on the ref desk and more particularly on the talk page, most of which had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the question per se, doesn't bear repeating. If you want my advice for handling questions that you suspect are

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I've heard other-language speakers use "of course" in places where it seems natural to them, but would be considered rude in English. Where you suspect something is the case, and you ask for confirmation, then "of course" as part of the reply might be appropriate. For example: you believe your work

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What ho! If you have a moment, pray run an eye over this new article to which I have given birth after a protracted labour. I shall add blue links when I feel up to a second grapple with this huge list, but meanwhile, any general thoughts, or Jackish tweaks will be most welcome. All this, I may say,

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But where it's not reasonable for you to be expected to know one way or another about something, then "of course" is very much out of place. For example: you want to know who the 13th President of Italy was, and you ask someone. If their response is "Vittorio Vercotti, of course", you're likely to

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half a dozen times and I've tried to like it, I really have, because I like quiz programs generally and I like adding to my paltry storehouse of knowledge. But I always come away having missed half or more of the in-jokes, and with the strong feeling that he's just there to impress us all with his

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This cannot be true. The difference between the cited dates is 18 days. Both my parents were born in that period (1906 and 1909 respectively) and their birth dates were October 2/October 15; and February 5/February 18. The difference for the dates at the time of the change was 13 days; the few more

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Weird. When I first got your message, I was getting ready for work and only had a moment to check what the website was. It looked interesting enough to come back to when I had more time, like now (evening). But now, I can't access that website at all. I keep on being told there's no such site.

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Hi. I'm currently floundering my way through an update of the Schubert Grand Duo article. As usual I'm running short of reliable sources. The main problem is that section on the Orchestrations. I think that needs to be re-written and made separate from the analysis. I've removed some badly written

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I've noticed that there are plenty of people here who are kind of addicted to drama, and repeatedly asking them to drop their sticks seemed useless unfortunately. In my native language using the direct translation of "of course" in this context is completely innocent and totally not offensive. You

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So apply that idea to the question we're talking about, "Is the mustard seed the smallest seed in the world?". They presumably have no way of knowing whether it's the smallest or not, which is why they've come here to find out. Saying "Of course not" is like saying "Any fool knows it's not. How

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I am trying to find a title of a drama film (possibly in black and white) about a romance relationship that was stopped by his family being Italian because it was found out that the woman had an unsavoury past. It is not Traviata or Camille it is st in moderfn times. Any suggestions would be very

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It can be shared by many! Even in retrospect - I had an article where a friend contributed a lot a few minutes after it appeared on the Main page, and was told how to give credit. - But first we should solve that the text is still more or less what the obituary says. (So the "originator" doesn't

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Hi, Dona. This is about the question you asked on the Knowledge (XXG) Entertainment Reference Desk yesterday. Please confine the discussion to that place, and do not approach individual editors simply to restate your question. Best thing is to go back to the Ref Desk, and respond to me there,

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If you haven't already seen '''http://tinyurl.com/77k4mea''', I thought you might be interested. I was, and have no competence in either field. I wonder how hard the piece would be to learn by rote. (I couldn't make a blue link because the "tinyurl" site is blacklisted, probably for copyright

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following a request for me to remove material from the Sexuality section of the article. As whether to leave this material out of the article or reinstate it is something that should be decided upon by more than two people, the more voices that are heard on this, pro or con, the better. Please

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Thanks for that very valuable feedback, Signor Voce. I had my own misgivings, and of course I too realised that vast numbers of operas involve the death of an important character - so if not all of them qualify, where to draw the line? Best to restrict it to what you say. I'd still include

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Why, how kind of you, Tim. I must say I know next to nothing about him personally, and I've only put in whatever I could glean from google, which isn't all that much. For the longest time I even assumed, not unreasonably, that he was British born and bred. Not so, as it turns

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I stumbled accidentally on a query made in 2008 regarding Constantin Silvestri's date of birth. Specifically, although his official birthdate was recorded as May 13, 1913 a note found in a publication indicated that that the date as May 31, 1913, presumably Gregorian.

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That sounds fascinating, Bielle. I will check it out at the library. Ives is one composer whose music I've never played a note of, so it'll be interesting reading about the experience from that untainted perspective. Thanks for the alert. Cheers. --

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You do know that you don't have to insert the date yourself, don't you? Or even your name? All you do at the end of your post is type 4 tildes (~) and the system automatically inserts links to your user name and your talk page, and the date and time.

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A thousand pardons, dear lady. All this time I’ve believed you were merely a male. But I can hardly be blamed, really, since women tend not to associate themselves with the voices of tenors. There are male sopranos, but I’ve never heard of a female

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I'm so pleased you've put up an article on this important musical scholar. He's been on my To-Do/Guilt List for ages, and I'm glad you've got in first or the world might have had to wait for heaven knows how long. Another feather in the JackofOz cap.

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Hi there. I fear you've misread my query. The usual date shown is 13 May 1913, but without specifying whether it's a Julian or Gregorian date. But my source says his true date of birth was not 13 May but 31 May 1913 (Julian), which equates to 13

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is not the answer you're after. Many people read the ref desks and will see this, and this will get their brains ticking over. You've got a much better chance of getting the answer that way, than by approaching editors individually. Best. --

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was among your recent batch of categorees (to coin a phrase) but in your flying visit you may not have noticed that I've substantially overhauled his article. If you have time and inclination I'd value your critical eye on the new version.

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was a travesty and that turned me off him. Just because Oscar's your personal hero (so what, he's mine too) and just because you look very vaguely like him, does not make you fit to play him. And Fry didn't play him, he played himself.

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Voceditenore and I can't sing to save my soul. :) I'm not sure whether having the word "death" (or a synonym) in the title makes a difference, and can also lead to a slippery slope, but at least it's a little more defining. I'd consider

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has nothing whatsoever to do with death and everything to do with the tension between avant-garde and popular music. If a category invites these kinds of subjective judgements, it probably isn't going to work too well. Also, how does

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That actually did occur to me! I had been considering trying to do something "clever" in honor of the date (which hasn't arrived yet at my longitude), but considering the brouhaha a year ago over the main page I'm a bit hesitant.

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But if you actually like drama, conflict and endless argy-bargy (and believe me, lots of people really get off on that stuff), then feel free to ignore me. But also feel free to pursue your passion elsewhere. Cheers. --

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No, leave it. It actually wasn't an April Fools prank at all. That was just my lame attempt at an excuse for naughtiness. But I just can't help it - that man gets up my nose. I used to like him in Fry and Laurie, but

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now reads "Surnames beginning with Mac or Mc are sorted as they are spelled. Douglas MacArthur is sorted {{DEFAULTSORT:MacArthur, Douglas}} and Malcolm McDowell is sorted {{DEFAULTSORT:McDowell, Malcolm}}." Cheers,

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Hi Jack. Thank you for your comment on my talk page. I simply searched Wikiquote for "no path" hoping for something rather more Zen-like, but the Krishnamurti quote seemed to fit. Glad you liked it. All the

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I just wanted to thank for your improvement on this aforementioned article. Many of you Wikipedians are so proficient. What makes your contributions for commendable because of dedicated volunteerism.

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Wow, the things you read. When I come to power, all Mcs and Macs will be sorted as Mac, that's a promise. Until then, we'll just have to go with the consensus, I suppose. Thanks for the alert. --

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know, the funny part is that I was thinking about spermatozoa, which can euphemistically be described as (human) seed. They are pretty small; their head is 5 µm x 3 µm and their tail is 41 µm long...

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all right. Incidentally, he used to say he'd been a minister ten times, but this record accords him only seven, plus the two House leadership appointments. Customary rhetoric I guess, eh? Cheers,

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I've hived the discography off to its own article, and I am under no illusions how much more work it needs, so for now I'd avoid that one if I were you. I shall get it up to the standard of the

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So, by "the day of the appointment", you're referring to the swearing in of Campbell Newman and his cabinet at Government House? I'd really like to see a readable link, because Monday sounds

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colleague has a Hungarian background but you're not 100% certain of that. You ask them "Are you Hungarian?". They're likely to say "Of course", meaning "I've never made any secret of it".

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Hello mate! I hope you like cats. I am quite sure that people would've continued whining for months without explaining anything if you hadn't given your explanation. Thanks for your help.

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Well, it just seemed kind of obvious to me. I probably wouldn't have said anything, since your English skills seemed pretty damn good to me. Until I read that box on your user page.

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Hi. What you say applies to Germans and Austrians. But Nadia was a Russian who married a man with a German name. In her own article, it's "von Meck", never just "Meck". --

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has received a request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to "Liam Neeson". As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation.

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is a voluntary process which resolves a dispute over article content by facilitation, consensus-building, and compromise among the involved editors. After reviewing the

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I did it again, never mind, wanted him known. He will be - or not. Thanks for adding to Nystedt, we are working on his "Immortal Bach" for 5 * SATB. And now for

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Thank you. Just shows that even I have to let off a little steam occasionally. Also, it's April Fools Day here, if that makes any difference. Cheers. --

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Thank you for adding a German cellist to the countless enjoyable biographies and Chopin's Polish song, first heard when I was young. Enjoy the company on the

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Sorry, Jack. German name--the rule still applies. If you still disagree, please take it to the Tchaikovsky talk page so that others can discuss it as well.

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What a great start to my day. Thanks, boys. If I happen to come across any Hebrew slaves today, I'll be sure and tell 'em what clip to watch. :) --

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Still so many articles to write - don't let anyone ever tell you Knowledge (XXG) is almost done. Hah! We haven't even scratched the surface. --

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Hi All. Just letting you know that we have another meetup planned for Melbourne, on Sunday, 26th February at 11am. More details can be found at the

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Learning: the much discussed sonata is known among German musicians as op 27/2, is that "Op. 27, No. 2" in Wikipedian? If there is a redirect

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sub-categories lump knights and dames together under "knighthoods". It's a commonly used generic. Cheers and thanks for your support. --

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but when her last name is used alone, the "von" is dropped as it is a title, not part of the name. The best example of this rule of usage is

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History, just above the new link for Fitzroy. for a multi billion dollar company, there is no google reference to Dane and Andrew. ideas ?

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after the main Monteux article is put to bed. Meanwhile, any Jack thoughts, amendments or additions on the main article would be welcome.

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Because requests must be responded to by the Mediation Committee within seven days, please respond to the request by 24 January 2012.

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Yes, a good idea to clear away the historical cobwebs of distortion and melodrama and let the damn music speak for itself. I've also

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In the recent reference desk question where I made a mistake about "at me", why did you call me "kid"? I'm a bit insulted by that.

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on playing Ives's music. The imagery is telling even to a non-player like me. The article requires payment, of course, but if the

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should have an article on Women's Day, which explains that of course her mom called her Julie, - half-joking. I tried to sort

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if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the

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could you possibly not know that?", and if I had got that answer, I'd have been mightily offended. I hope that explains it.

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seems to cover music that’s typically performed at funerals etc, or music that’s written to commemorate someone who’s died.

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has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath

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You're very welcome. I didn't really understand your last sentence, but it seems to be a compliment, so thank you. --

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is basically a meditation on death and the afterlife despite the word not appearing in the title, while I suspect that

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a lot, though. If he had never appeared in anything but those two programs, I'd still be a fan. Still waiting to see

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Absolutely. I did the first few, and assumed others like yourself would come along and build on it. Cheers. --

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Hey all, just a reminder that there's a meetup tomorrow at 11am in North Melbourne. There are more details at the

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I've given the old grouch a major overhaul. Glad if you'd look in and amend or comment ad lib. No rush whatever.

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Whoops! Sorry about Henry J. It's the brain catching up too slowly with the eyes. Press on, sir, and ignore me.

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Ah well, maybe I'll just go and watch Hewitt thrash Djokovic, and try again later. Thanks anyway, Bielle. --

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Normally the originator gets the credit, but he/she is still a redlink, so I dunno how that works on DYK. --

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I assume it too, but I haven't, as far as I can remember, seen anything in print that confirms the assumption.

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a borderline case which highlights the problem. I would say that the central theme of the opera is not death

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Hello! I didn't submit it, and I didn't even know it had been submitted by anyone else. Thanks anyway. --

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articles a going-over. If you have time and inclination to look in it will, as always, be esteemed a favour.

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Hi Jack-- I've posted a couple of responses to your note, but moved yours and mine to the bottom section,

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Wishing you a good one, I followed your example of mentioning a few people who played a role in my life

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this Sunday at 11am, to celebrate our 11th anniversary. Details on that page. Hope to see you there!

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I linked her a few times. Should I nominate? Who are the authors? She had almost 2k hits already! --

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I'm using a different computer with different security protocols, but that shouldn't make any diff.

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Hmm. I don't watch enough TV anymore to have an opinion on his recent stuff, and I haven't seen

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I'm in the middle of overhauling the article. Any contributions will be gratefully received.

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Thanks, Gerda, When you alert me to some article, can you please provide a link to it. --

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Discussion relating to the mediation request is welcome at the case talk page. Thank you.

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Hi Tim. I've had a quick look and made a few tweaks. I'll come back to it later. --

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for Ravi Shankar!) It would make the musicians category less crowded too. Thoughts?

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Sorry, I was not talking in general, just about the four women and five men who form

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to so many operas, seemingly on the basis the central character dies. But apart from

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