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which after repeated OBSERVATION and EXPERIMENTATION one could formulate a THEORY about OBSERVED processes) BUT not even that much given the ruckus it causes. Just remove the fact-by-assertion claim. BTW there is another source that makes a claim to the origin of species and mankind on earth (Genesis 1:1-31)
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The atheism religion is synonymous with scientific ignorance and utter UTTER gullibility- Richard
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So they got some RNA PYRMIDINES, 2 of the 4 bases (not purines) this literature proves spontaneous generation i mean abiogenesis is a MYTH. Full literature costs 32$ only the abstract. This is why wiki articles need to be made scientifically
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