2765:- like that of every other nation in the world -is relatively new. Peoples' cultures and identitie are always changing and "being made". Even the Greeks forgot their "Greek roots" until Hellenophilic English gentlemen and Germans reminded them with regard to this. From Roman times until the Modern Era, the Greeks were "Romans", shunned the pagan "Hellenes", and hated the "barbarian" Macedonians. It is funny what political braniwashing can do to 'bend' 'historical facts' - to all nations and people. I don't know if you've come accross a guy writing on 'Zbornik' - Pavel Serafimov - who claims that the anceint Gauls, Minoans, everyone, was actually a Slav , LOL !
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section. This is how ignorant you are, or you seem to be like a corrupted computer system. I don't know now if you are really a human from the messages you are pasting, it actually seems like a virus. Now PLEASE do not report to the sockpuppet investigation centre because I have nothing to do with stormfighter or the warrior people you have claimed to the investigator. Maybe they are similar people who don't agree with how this article is explained. However im definitely not one of them or know them. I wouldn't change the section without any sources, I am going to find various sources that is reliable.
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the whole of the article, together with the added sources. That all issue was disussed to dead on the talk page. Bulgarian sources are biased, i.e. they aren't neutral and only Sofia
University Press and Bulgarian Academy of Sciences can be used, but very cautiously. The article is compromise at the moment and is result of a long work. If you can provide other reliable sources supporting your point of view (scientific publications from Oxford, Cambridge, Britannica etc.) just provide them on talk for discussion. If no, keep reading about thas issue. Thank you.
3255:Направих картинка с изображения на известни българи, по подобие на тези, които стоят на статиите за германците, англичаните, французите и др. и я приложих към таблицата в статията. Направих го, защото старият дизайн с няколко големи снимки с по една фамилия отдолу изглежда, меко казано, безумно. Извинявам се предварително на създателите му, но наподобява на надгробна плоча. Може да сме изчезваща нация, но все още не сме умряла нация, за щастие. Ако си ви харесва така, оставете си го. Няма смисъл да го слагам, а вие да го триете. :)
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2369:. There are totally wrong information. In two of the references references I was not able to find that the Congress is ' ultra nationalist organization' and the last reference was broken links. I checked the text with more reliable references - statute of the Congress, Library of Alexandria and the Union of International Associations (where all international organisations are registered).
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3440:. Only few Bulgarian media news articles are put as references, which I don't see as reliable. Which comes to the notability of the article, it isn't mentioned by any other political researchers or outside media except the Bulgarian ones. I put the tags so the article could be improved and expanded, also so that reliable sources could be added.
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1761:. I don't actually see what arguments you have for doing so. I think on most of the material that I wrote I also put references to show the true value of it. I don't agree that you had to delete the whole material I studied and wrote, just because it doesn't go with your political concepts, ideas and affiliation. Yes, I actually am an
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Almost none of the tags was placed rightfully, you have understand I hope. However, some of them were hanging until reliable sources were added or are still hanging where they are rightfully placed. Of corse, I don't have the rigts to block you and I don't wish your block. However I can warn you when
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You we're the one that started the edit war, removing the rightfully places tags in the first place, based on the article's controversies in the talk pages. Secondly I know that you haven't even the user rights to block me, and if you did you need to have a good explanation which you certainly don't.
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This article is about the Slavic people born in Greece. Not about the Slavs from
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For example, Жарко Траjaноски is political party activist who attack Nice
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I told you that Im not going to make an edit without any sources and yet you have reported for sockpuppet investigation. Have you even read what Ive told you on this talk page? You are showing so much ignorance here. You also seem to not have read and understood what Ive explained about the genetic
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I think, this text is an idea to NPOV: According to some authors during the Ottoman rule, the majority of native Torlakian Slavic population did not have distinct national consciousness in ethnic sense. Therefore, both, Serbs and Bulgarians, considered local Slavs as part of their own people, while
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Instead, it should be: "Jérôme-Adolphe Blanqui, when traveling across Bulgaria in 1841, describes the population of the Sanjak of Niš as Bulgarians. Felix Philipp Kanitz recalled in the end of the 19th century that the inhabitants of Pirot were divided on the issue of nationality; many in the older
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Hi, the caption under the picture says approximately the following: An episode from the Serbian-Bulgarian War in 1915-1918. Leaders of Serbian chetas, acting in the Moravian region, deep behind the Bulgarian army front-lines, capitulating after being persecuted, along with their bands, in front of
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were long-lasting Byzantine strongholds, and that Serbo-Croat , as opposed to Macedo-Bulgarian probably had more to do with the Avars than with the "Sklaveni" and Antes. Kosovo and southern Serbia were undoubtedly part of Bulgaro-Macedonian. The name Kosovo itself tells us - just like thousands of
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As well as more more findings about early Slavic Balkans. It appears that much of Balkans interior was unihabited in 7th and 8th century, except for coastal Dalmatia, Albania / Epirus, parts of Greece, and Ohrid region Macedonia spreading along the via Egnatia into south-east Bulgaria. These sites
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Todor Petrov, the head of the World Macedonian Congress, said foreign powers should crack down on the ethnic Albanian rebels who have seized sections of northern territory and secure the release of Macedonians alleged to have been abducted.The West also should pay Macedonia reparations because the
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The prevealing scholar's opinion and the article's point of view are coinciding about the Bulgars' origins: Turkic people with some Iranian influence. Bulgarians aren't direct descendants of the Bulgars and they also have minor genetic Asiatic influence (1,5% Y-DNA, 1,0% mtDNA). Just read at first
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I don't know what you mean by disruptive editing. I've got all the arguments and I have presented them to you here. If you want it your way, let it be then. If you want me to cease because of your stubborn spite, let it be then I don't mind. But you have to know that you're not always right. Yours
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I don't know, for what cause(?), are you deleting the images of the selected significant people originating from Greek Macedonia. They are all born or have heritage from "Aegean Macedonia" and have played a big part in her history or the history of the Balkan. Why are you constantly deleting them?
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So why didn't you say that? I suggest you reread Peters (2002) because she says nothing of the sort. Where does Buchanan (2006) even mention the song at all? Also, start using the 'preview' button when editing; you make even the simplest of grammatical and spelling mistakes in your frenzied edits.
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I already explained to you about your first source. About your 3 other sources, they called him nationalist. There is a HUGE difference between nationalist and ultra nationalist. You can not say that Petrov and WMC are both ultranationalist. According to your source, they are nationalist, but not
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First of all its Niš, not Nish - wtf is nish? Secondly its a Serbian Orthodox church NOT A CHRISTIAN church. Yes Orthodox and Catholic belong to the umbrella group CHRISTIANITY but its too broad. You have to make it specific so that people who aren't from Serbia know what type of church it is.
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The World Macedonian Congress, a nationalist group behind the referendum campaign, has adopted an alarmist stance. Its president, Todor Petrov, said the changes will force members of the ethnic majority out of Albanian-controlled municipalities. "Some radicals will use this as a means of ethnic
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Thanks for your reply. Based on the image and my (obviously wrong) translation I concluded that Leaders of Serbian chetas on this image were not capitulating but armed, smiling and shaking hands with Bulgarian officers. Please double check the source of this image. It is mistakenly presented as
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similar endings in Macedonia and Blgaria - Tetovo, Turnovo, etc etc. I once wathced a documentary on kosovo - I thought the people were just speaking straight out Macedonian(!) Normally I struggle to understand Serbian unless I already have subtitles. Ie the Torlaks are just Serbianized M-Bs.
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Crucial poll fails in Macedonia. Nationalists, who called for the referendum, conceded defeat but some alleged dirty tricks. "In 20% of the country, polling stations were not opened at all," said Todor Petrov of the World Macedonian Congress. "We will demand that the Supreme Court declares it
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he was not vice-president. Vice president are: Ismail Bojda, Borce Stefanovski, Vangel Bozinovski, Frosina Tashevski-Remenski. In the time when his prayer appeared, he was not any official of the Congress. Nicke's work is irrelevant for the World Macedonia Congress. It is individual move.
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Hi. The whole Czech republic has about 10 million people. You say 12 mill. of Czechs plus 1 Mill. of Moravians? It is 3 more! At the last census only about 600.000 people claimed Moravian nationality. The whole historical land of Morava has about 4.000.000 people. Your numbers are wrong. The
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the fact that sources clearly states that these areas were full of Slavs. Other inhabited areas were the carpathian basin and southern Romania. It thus appears that much of inland Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Bulgaria were unihabited, until the Bulgar arrival south of the Danube and their
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You do understand that Kanitz and Blanqui do not support the above assertion? If Kanitz says that: "the inhabitants of Pirot always feel that they are Bulgarians", it does not mean that Torlakian-speakers had begun to develop predominantly Bulgarian national consciousness. Please read
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Ultra nationalistic is not the only mistake. It article there a lot of mistakes. WMC was found in 1899. It is former Macedonian government in exile, and it exist as it in school history books. It 1990, after the fail of Commununist party, it was officially registered in Macedonia.
1060:. Following this, I realized that you have only deleted the text and sources, but you didn't replaced them into the Classification section. Afterwards, I just restored the deleted text and the sources in the Classification section. I really think, you are biased in this case.
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While you are working on the "Bulgarians", would you be so kind to update one of the population numbers in the infobox. Since the article is semi-protected, I cannot do the edit myself. The number of Bulgarians in Serbia is now counted to 18,543 (the source is
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Well, what this has to do with the 1 million in the article? Neither you refer to the population of the ladnd of Morava, when it is around 4 milion or you refer to the nationality - it will be 600.000, you do not get 1.000.000 unless you are Harry Potter ;O)
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both born in ancient Macedon. All of this men were born where Greece didn't exist, but they are considered "Macedonians". Then why can't the Slavic people who were born and had lived here before the Greek Independence be mentioned. That's what I want to
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Please, allow me to interject - the "Bulgarian" source is the diary by Hristo Uzunov himself. Uzunov expressed his Bulgarian identity and belonging. It would be better to stop to extrapolate today's political and ideological realities on the past of
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Why are you bringing back this conversation about Greek Macedonia after the Greek Independence, I'm talking about Greek Macedonia as a territory. And the pictures of Voskopoulos and Tsarknias aren't a copyright violation, they are in the public
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As you can check after the last Macedonian source I have added, Koneski himself recognized that his village and his family were pro-Serbian. Also, claiming book as Historical dictionary of Republic of Macedonia is pro-Bulgarian is biased view.
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The source which you refere is written by ethnical albanian Artan Sadiku and is not neutral.It is not reliable source. The organisation is affilatet to UN international organisation, if it was ultranationalistic it will not be accepted.
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Hi, the ancestors of the Romanized Thracians, later named Vlachs, who were not slavicized survived in some areas. However, I do not understand the context of your question. Are you a newly registered IP or a sock from another user?
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About vandalism of Nice Dimovski, the only reference is youtube video which is incorrectly translated and the world are taken out of real context and meaning. Also, Nicke's work is irrelevant for the World Macedonia Congress.
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please discuss your proposals with other editors on the talk page. Also your style of editing is not too encyclopedic and resembles wall-newspaper or even advertisment. But you are not beginner here. That is clear. Thank you.
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I have warned you twice today. I have also discussed on article's talk-page, but you did not. If you continue with blind reverts to delete a correct info, sourced with academic publication, I am going to report you. Thanks.
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Bulgarian sources are not proper sources. The whole world knows about your lies, they are do no good to anybody so stop reverting and go write articles about bulgaria not Ohrid, Macedonia, and Macedonian revolutionaries.
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It will be better to discuss your suggestions about the images in the info-box on the talk page of the article Bulgarians and to gain a consensus about your proposal with other editors at first. Thank you.
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without responding to my objection in any form. This is unacceptable, disruptive revert-warring and will not be tolerated. Self-revert now, or at least provide a well thought-out reasoning on the talk page.
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Wow that's cool. Of course, the only problem with isoglossic analyses is that we cannot date them to any precise time without contemporary evidence. Same goes for that arguement about the distribution of
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I think that you would understand that I'm not a threat to Knowledge, and that you won't delete my edits just because of my ethnic and national belonging. Thank you,
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Slav and they are brainwashed to believe they are Greeks. According to Dosnski the Queen Elizabeth and her ancestors Samuel and Alexander are also Slavs.
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I sow that patroller edited both articles. I sow that he have put 'nationalist'. I think that we shell leave he as neutral editor to decide the content.
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Hello, I am still checking and writing more detail and verified article about World Macedonian Congress, the one which you edited was uncompleted work.
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ultranationalist. It should be corrected. Alo,the article need a LOT more information. There is nothing about its activity, mision etc...
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Hi Gustavo Rubén. Nevertheless I have removed a link to a strange site, unrelated to the issue Ottoman Macedonia, you had added. Regards.
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Please do not track and dismantle my edits in different articles, stop threatening me for no particular reason. Hope you'll understand,
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I will go on and change the OR-statement which you have added to several articles.--
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