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page. For example, all of the pipers should at least have a {{WikiProject Biography|listas=Bloggs, Bill|living=no|musician-work-group=yes}} template on their talk pages, and maybe a piping or county/region project too. Look at the talk pages of other similar pages for other examples and other projects. You don't need to ask permission, or sign on as a member of a project (although many projects do maintain an unofficial list of members) to add projects, but try to ensure that the article is truly in the scope of the project. I don't know if there is a piping related project, but there probably is a project related to the Northumberland region.

1997:. Our present remarks on the subject of the origins of the well known melody (both here, and in the parent article) are also poorly cited (another question altogether) - but regardless they do represent the consensus of several older sources that make no mention of the manuscript. Does it even warrant its own (well cited) article? Either way - a little more background information about the manuscript (how and when it came to light, for instance) would be useful. In fact, assuming that the manuscript is authenticated and reliably cited it makes nonsense of much of what we say in both articles - and both of them would require substantial editing. 260: 153: 2825: 2500: 2412: 2324: 2249: 2119: 1730: 2595: 1224: 863: 2914: 347:. Instead, there is a move button that will allow you to move everything, including the page history and talk page to a more appropriate title with one click (well, a few clicks). To fix up the current duplication, given the more extensive history at the (piper) article, could you attempt to merge the relevant info from the manuscript article into the (piper) article, and then use the 1897: 605: 2774: 791: 1507:. I will leave this, but I do recommend considering if this kind of material is right for posting on Knowledge (XXG) or if it's better off on your own blog that you control and has no expected community standards of what goes on it, since I'm not sure this kind of material would survive a deletion discussion - what it needs is to be referred to in 200: 1108: 2083:

life'. I will play through the relevant bits of the overture to Rosina - I am convinced that much of its material is taken from Auld Lang Syne, but it would be interesting to see if the modern form of the tune preexisted its appearance in Rosina. All other appearances in print that I have found seem to postdate it.

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in all editors, and I'm assuming that all of your edits are made in good faith, and likewise, trust me, I'm not going to start deleting your articles if you don't fix everything in the next week! I can see that you are enthusiastic about your topic of choice and probably are filling in a big whole in

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I have found a long obituary of Shield, from a few days after his death, on the British Newspaper Archive. I will use this to expand his biography. In particular, he seems to have known Haydn quite well, and said 'he had learned more from Haydn in four days, than in any four years of the rest of his

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in the New Pages queue and just wanted to thank you for this and your previous work, dating back to 2008, frequently dealing with topics that would otherwise go uncovered. Popular culture is important throughout history, not just in the current moment, and your efforts are appreciated. best regards,

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is probably the most relevant to your piper articles. Whislt they are probably skewed towards popular music and keeping out every garage/high school band that wants some publicity (which is obviously not the case for your long dead pipers), you should review the community agreed consensus and try to

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I'll have to try again to find it! Of course we always knew that the "attribution of the tune to Shield is spurious" - we have never taken this seriously, but, as you remark, been determined to refute it as succinctly and conclusively as possible. At the time this article was written (several years

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are areas on wikipedia where editors who are either geographically or topically related can discuss, maintain, review and assist improving articles. I note that most of your new pages don't have any projects listed. You add projects by adding the relevent project's template to the article's talk

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Hi and welcome again. Well done on your edits so far, particularly concerning Colin Ross, but I feel I should point out that ticking the minor edit box is really only for very small edits like typos and adding links. It doesn't bother me much but some editors treat this as disguising controversial

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Rob McKillop does play the Auld Lang Syne variations, and a fine bit of playing it is too. One of more than 100 pieces on his Youtube page. The Balcarres lute book, as one of the early sources of popular music in Scotland, and as - in McKillop's words, the 'most professional' of the Scottish lute

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The final point I would like to make is that any edits you make to Knowledge (XXG) need to be in "encyclopedic style". They need to read well in conjunction with what is already there, and not to make "persuasive" or rhetorical comments that might be very appropriate if you were writing a book or

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The MS is currently in private hands, and I need the owner's permission before saying who owns it. He has placed some information on the website I linked to, but I do not want to divulge more than I am free to. I will add citations as soon as I am able. But nothing relevant is yet published in

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This is a pity, as the MS is important, and has only recently come to light. But I accept Knowledge (XXG)'s reliance on published sources, so it is perhaps too early to create a Knowledge (XXG) article on this subject yet. I may well be back with this once something has been published. The

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ago now) a google search brought up dozens of (mostly 3rd rate) "sources" - newspaper articles etc. - one or two of these (from memory) actually got a mention here but disappeared like the ephemera they always were, so that all that remains are those wretched "citation needed" tags. --

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Fascinated by your edit to the William Shield article, especially after visiting the website about the Rod MacKillop album (the idea of Scottish lute music is a new one to me, but just the sort of thing to tickle my jaded old musical palette) - I might well want to get this one).

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suggestion of a museum in Northumberland is a good one - the owner is hoping the MS will eventually go to the Pipers' Society, and be lodged in the Morpeth Chantry Bagpipe Museum. But while research on it is ongoing, it makes sense for him to hang on to it for the time being.

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Thanks for the information, I understand your policy. I am still learning more about this important piper; I hope to return to the subject in the future - in particular, there's a press cutting where I need to identify the date and source before I can cite it.

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is to you (and my feelings for the bagpipes rank only slightly less than the saxophone for my least enjoyed instrument!) But, somethings on wikipedia cross all geographical and topical boundaries. I'll separate them into points below:

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I removed the speedy deletion tag on this one because it makes a credible claim for notability, but some more sources would really help stave off further efforts to delete it. You can even email me scans of hardcopy sources and I can

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page - a tentatively identified man can't possibly be notable, so the MS itself, in either case an important historical source for Northumbrian music and, in Dixon's case, for bagpipe music, should be the subject. The older

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manuscripts, deserves its own page, but I am certainly not the one to write it. I can add a relevant citation. For sure, the attribution of the tune to Shield is spurious, and needs little discussion except to refute it.

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that are trusted and have a professional reputation. Perhaps a local museum in Northumbria would be interested in putting up an article about this manuscript on its website? Anyway, hope this is helpful to you.

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On the other hand the Balcarres manuscript, from which the (pre-1700?) set of variations on the well known melody is allegedly drawn, is not something that has previously featured here and DOES really need a

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after it? That way, it will show up as a reference and be on the reference list rather than as a link in the line of the article. (It look like you tried once, but just put </: -->

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One 20th century newspaper article says ALS is derived from The Miller's Wedding, in Bremner's Scots Reels, from 1759. A totally different tune. Only primary sources will do....

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Hello, thanks for writing this article! I’ve just read it and I’m a bit concerned that it has no citations. That worries me since without proof that this topic is

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Incidentally - have been doing some more digging on my own - Rod McKillop doesn't actually play the Auld Lang Syne variations, does he? Was keen to hear them. A

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on the topic that you can add? If so just edit the article and add citations using the cite tool, or if you have any thoughts or questions just let me know.

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print, at least since the Northumbrian Small-Pipes Society folded in 1900. The MS was only rediscovered this summer, so it is early days yet.

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File permission problem with File:Clough Colour Photos -in greyscale- - Jim Bryan + Tom Clough + Foster Charlton + 1009.jpg

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page can be deleted, as the content was copied across. I haven't found a project specifically covering Northumbrian music.

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Hi John, I'll start by saying that your primary editing topic, piping, is probably as familiar to me as my regular topic,

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Very many thanks - I'm glad that what I'm trying to do is appreciated. The project continues ....

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