User talk:Josh Gorand - Knowledge (XXG)

963:(when you wrote that you intended to move the article "Unless there is objection" - anyone who had read the talk page would be fully aware that there was strong objection and of the previous POV forks and frivolous ADF), you of course knew all this, because the talk page included, at that time, a (prominently displayed) link to the AFD page and a discussion of both the POV fork issue and the frivolous AFD (described as a "travesty" on the talk page by a different user). Or did you propose to move the article in retaliation against me (after an unrelated dispute), without bothering reading the talk page and sources that have been cited there? Are you really interested in Lower Saxon politics, or did you just show up there (and now here) out of spite? 1794:

back this up, so Im just going to try asking you to take a leap of faith and accept it. Please consider striking the part of your statement about media interviews – even if one only cared about the LGBT cause, that would likely be a harmful move. You should maybe strike the part asking for a ban against Paris too, he may have made a few mistakes here, but hes actually one of our most honourable admins. Even if you dont agree, maybe you can see you're overreaching, which often risks doing your cause more harm than good. Sorry again for this uninvited advice, but I think maybe my earlier comments were unbalanced and not helpful.

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march of 250,000 souls to Washington, super charging the civil rights movement. Heavilly criticised at the time, in the years that followed, it led to the irreversible defeat of right wing advocates in the culture wars. In a way, one almost feels sorry for them, and perhaps its only chivalrous to let them have a little victory. By the way, I note that like myself you have removed unsightly banner tags from the page of His Holiness Pope Benedict. I wonder if you are a fellow Christian, and like me a moderate social conservative on most issues. If so, it makes your stand all the more admirable. Thank you!

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states, right-wing states, states with one-party rule, Islamist countries, theocracies, basically any enemy of the person using it. It is used perpetually by a critic and never a proponent of the system in question. I know its definition but be honest, how often do you really find that word being used in that sense? It generally means "political system" but I find it is used synonymlously with "government" (eg. the Syrians who took up arms against "the regime" - ie. Assad; the NTC killed civilians believed to support "the regime" - ie. Gaddafi).

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and wholeheartedly agree that the title of the article should now be Chelsea. But your, yes, overzealous defense of the transgendered-rights side of the debate, your hairtrigger responses to anything you perceive as transphobic is, I very much fear, actually helping the other side considerably more than it's helping yours. There's going to be another requested-move poll, and there are already plenty of people who will !vote in favor of it; I don't believe you're going to convince anyone who's not convinced already.

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words and 100 diffs for parties and 500 words and 50 diffs for all others, are in place to ensure that the Arbitration Committee receives only the most important information relevant to the case, and is able to determine an appropriate course of action in a reasonable amount of time. The evidence you have submitted currently exceeds at least one of these limits, and is presently at 1150 words and 7 diffs. Please try to reduce the length of your submission to fit within these limits;

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article is to have them, then all previous candidates need them as well; it's useless as a succession box if only one relevant article bears it. In any case, the clumping of all parties in one infobox was improper and should, in the event of German-wide presidential nominee succession boxes, be split to separately show the line of CDU/CSU nominees and SDP/Green nominees.

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the reaction thst garnered from many reasonable editors) inspired me that such a guideline as a reminder of the norms of NPA was necessary. It is not an attack on you or your character, it is a behavioral guideline that, as you can see, has consensus from several other editors. Please stop misrepresenting my words, this is like the 3rd time you've done so.--

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surveillance by "German (which implies: "all German") authorities/intelligence" is wrong anyway) in every second sentence. It is important to include different opinions and also criticism of the Left but these opinions should be marked as such and not be assumed to be objective facts ("widely considered"). Other than that, happy editing :). Thanks.

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would refrain from using the term, until we can find a way to better explain the confusion of the ending "-phobic" not being a characterization of a person's mental health. Is there some related "trans-" word about disrespecting transgender, which is widely used, but perhaps does not sound like a psychologist writing "

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with in more detail in sub articles. Tagging of obviously uncontroversial material and material that is actually cited is not constructive. There is no agreement on Knowledge (XXG) that each sentence needs a footnote, and many editors hold the opinion that over-referencing degrades the quality of the article.

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This means (among other things) that your references to the 'owners of the website' taking action, and the decision being a 'stance' taken by the WMF, are completely wrong. You may disagree with the decision made, but attributing the decision to the right group would help. If you do read this, I hope

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As you state above, the fact that you initiated the second move request was not a reason for your topic ban, so your attempted martyrdom on this point is rather silly. It's also ridiculous the way you continue to claim credit for "having initiated" the move request - I now know why you edit warred on

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Hello, Josh Gorand. Thank you for your recent submission of evidence for the Manning naming dispute Arbitration case. As you may be aware, the Arbitration Committee asks that users submitting evidence in cases adhere to limits regarding the length of their submissions. These limits, currently at 1000

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Josh, please listen: the reason several of us keep using words like "overzealous" with respect to you is not because we're closet transphobes who want to condone transphobic behavior or the maintenance of the article's title at Bradley. I, for one, have learned a lot from the debate over this issue,

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saying that Gauck's father was taken to a "concentration camp"? There are numerous sources describing the camp as a "labor camp", and the article must present facts as evidenced in reliable sources. I would appreciate it if you would not delete sourced content from the article. With regard to dispute

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for (among other things) "all articles dealing with transgender issues" remain in force. For the avoidance of doubt, these discretionary sanctions apply to any dispute regarding the proper article title, pronoun usage, or other manner of referring to any individual known to be or self-identifying as

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Would you be able to do me a favour and reduce the word count of your request to below 700 words? Would be hugely appreciated. The limit typically for statements and requests is 500 words but I willing to permit up to 700 given the scope and size of this dispute. It is important to keep in mind that

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Sorry to see the ANI thread looks like it might lede to a temp topic ban. No real loss though. Your robust defense of policy and common decency in the crucial early stages have already made a correct result to the RM all but inevitable. Im reminded that its almost exactly 50 years since King led his

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But there's no precedent in German articles. As much as I'd love for there to be a wiki-wide policy on political articles there are clearly large, distinct ways certain regions edit their articles, Canadian succession boxes and Israeli infoboxes being the two that come to mind right now. If Gauck's

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You have no right to delete other people's comments because you disagree with them. Thank you for admitting that you deleted my comment because you disagreed with its content. This speaks for itself. There is no vote. There is a discussion. A vote can only be started after first achieving consensus

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Were they all from the same person? Even if that person is blocked, it should be registered with arbcom, and abusive users should have their email privileges removed and their accounts community banned in some cases instead of just blocked. Those go far beyond incivility into personal attacks of a

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Relax. Everything is going to turn out for the best here - it is now abundantly clear that the name of this subject following her announced name change is recognized by reliable sources as her new name, and the RM will follow suit. The best thing you can do now is just allow it to proceed, without

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josh, please take off the armor and drop the sword. I am undecided still but am leaning strongly towards voting for Chelsea based on commonname - the source switch is mostly there. I never 'admitted' that the guideline is an attack on you, I simply stated that your behavior and that of others (and

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Josh, sorry but you've gone way OTT in what you've said on ANI. It's most important to be sensitive to LGBT issues, which is why I admired your earlier defence on Chelsea's talk. It's also possible to be a non prejudiced person, but not understand all LGBT perspectives. I don't have any sources to

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No, I'm not required to start a discussion to restore the stable version. If you want to introduce a tag to an article with thousands of readers daily, you have to start a discussion and achieve consensus for that. I see no consensus for incuding a maintenance tag, and I see no issues that merit a

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Multiple users have removed these tags now. We don't accept such tagging of articles with such a high profile without a very good reason. This article in particular has been stable for years, includes hundreds of footnotes and literature references, and is very well sourced. Some material is dealt

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I wanted to let you know that I understand and appreciate the concerns that have been raised on my talk page, and throughout the move discussion, with respect to this issue. I believe that the root of this problem lies in the ambiguity of the relevant policies, which is something that I intend to

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condition, just as "-less" in "clueless" or "heartless" does not mean "harmless" is also a negative word. However, due to the misconceptions, many people are *certain* how "transphobic" is a grave mental insult, rather than a word which means "strong dislike" or "discrimination". At this point, I

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Germany’s strong support for Israel in its foreign policy is just one way that the country has tried to make up for the crimes of the Holocaust. But the lessons of World War II also made many Germans strongly pacifist and thus uncomfortable with the hawkish tone and threatening language emanating

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when discussing Libya use "the regime" when referring to Gaddafi. Sometimes "the former regime" buit NEVER on CNN or BBC, the "current regime"). So its POV status is unequivocal. Note that I am not the only editor to make these changes, it invariably improves the article and 99% of the time meets

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may be able to provide some help in doing so. If the length of your evidence is not reduced soon, it may be refactored or removed by a human clerk within a few days. Thank you! If you have any questions or concerns regarding the case, please contact the drafting Arbitrator or case clerk (who are

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Please be very careful when making reverts. I make a number of edits to the article and most were aimed at taking out POV language, wiesel terms such as "regime" which have virtually no place on any article. I made a number of edits and if you really believe that the Communist party installed by

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The reason you were topic banned is very clearly laid out in the arbcom case, and is based mostly on your behavior during first move discussion. Also, you weren't topic banned by the wikimedia foundation, you were topic banned by ARBCOM, which is the community-elected final court of appeals for

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I use the word "needlessly" there with purpose though. It might be glib, but I cant think of any oppressed group that has made change solely by holding the moral high ground. It has always required at least a modicum of (judiciously placed) aggression (NOT violence, the two are in my mind quite

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First making POV forks that were deleted, then frivolously nominating the article for deletion (speedily kept), then unilaterally moving the article without consensus (and ignoring sources cited on the talk page), then complaining about me preventing further move wars, making a fake note on the

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as the only source for the assumption that something is "widely interpreted as..." is certainly a bit over the top. Lastly, I think it is not appropriate to mention the observation of parts of the Left by federal and some German state authorities (to claim the whole party is extremist and under

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Hah! Hey Josh, I've got no barnstar for you today, but I did want to let you know that your "separate bullet point" in the #1 support position, which was moved, removed, restored, re-moved, struck, un-struck, and re-struck, all in the name of the RM nominator having !voted with the nomination

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Read your last statement back to yourself. It is self-contractictory: "neutral term meaning form of government", "widely used when referring to communist/socialist regimes". What about non-Communist situations? Actually I will tell you about its usage. It is used past and present for Communist

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and elsewhere has taken place. It doesn't make any difference to me if different people are behind the frivolous ADF, the POV fork, the unilateral move and the "reporting" of me for merely fixing it and preventing move wars. Anyone who wants to have the article moved needs to take part in the

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I just removed a comment by User:Tarc where he apparently stated that his vocal opposition against renaming Chelsea Manning's article (presented with the rationale "Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't make a heifer become Marilyn Monroe y'know") was all really the biggest case of WP:POINT ever

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all the German Ministerpräsidenten are called minister-president on all wiki-pages exempt for your changes in some wiki-article%s about lower saxony Ministerpräsidenten, if you insist on prime minister as the correct form off Ministerpräsident them please change all of them and not just 1%

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This request has been closed. Due to your absence, no action was found to be necessary aside from reversion of the edit in violation of the ban. In the future, please do note that topic bans apply to all pages on Knowledge (XXG), including userspace, except for the exceptions listed at

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Also, as Bibfile mentioned in the linked talk page, the party system is much different in the United States in that they are much more rigid and clear in their nominations for elected offices that the more fluid, potentially multi-nominations more likely to occur in Western Europe.

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editor behavior; the WMF did not weigh in on your case, and while Jimbo retains the right to overturn such decisions, he didn't (and likely won't) - but your continued accusations that this is a WMF action are false. This was an action of the community, as represented by ARBCOM.

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I highly doubt that any topic ban would apply to a user's own user page. This is their page and they should be able to mention whatever they like. I see no good reason to limit people in this way, and in fact, to be allowed to limit in this way would be IMHO a form of bullying.

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this point, because you wanted to be able to claim credit, even though at least 20 different editors worked on the evidence for that move request over a month of work. The credit for that move request should be shared, I really recommend you stop claiming it as your own.--

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using prime minister is fine with me, but it sucks if all the different wiki articles use something else, and with the exeption of lower saxon Ministerpäsidenten, most of the other english wiki pages about other german Ministerpräsidenten use minister-president

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All right, I wasn't denying dictatorship. I was only looking to make the language usage more amicable. You know better than I do that one event led to the next, the downfall of the dictatorship may have been the hard part but from there it was plain sailing.

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I suppose I'm rambling a bit, but I would welcome an email if you wanted to discuss things further or needed somewhere to vent about this. I should have an email this user link on my page (I don't see one for you) or just leave a message on my talk page. --

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You are making disruptive edits to that article, as has been pointed out to you, including introducing obvious errors and making changes that do not improve the article in any way. The SED was formed in 1949, not in 1922. Regime is not a "wiesel term".

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Josh says: "I have allegedly been "topic banned" by the site owners from articles on transgender topics (which I hardly edited anyway)...especially for having initiated the (successful) proposal to move Chelsea Manning's article to Chelsea Manning"

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I am German and can assure you that it is relevant, as it illustrates the state of mind of a large portion of the people, and it ties in to the Easter Marches (Peace movement). I think that the quoted text put this in a rather well written form.

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until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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and other deceased and irrelevant names @ the ISHR article looks a lot like vandalism. You did a lot of edits in that session. Some look constructive. Some look like POV. I've removed Erhard, et al, but what's up? Why the borderline vandalism?

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that says you can remove maintenance templates you don't agree with. There are whole paragraphs without referencing and therefore suspect. Knowledge (XXG) uses maintenance templates to identify that fact. I have reverted your reversion of

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Er, you are the one manipulating the talk page by deleting other people's comments to prevent people from reading my objections to your unilateral and non-valid "votes". I can comment wherever I want except inside signed comments.

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itself, eventually wound up back above the #1 position, but struck through without any parenthetical explanation. I thought that it could confuse readers into thinking that the nominator had changed their mind, so I brought it up

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The German states uses and have used various titles in German. I already change Minister-President to Prime Minister whenever I come across the term and such a change is supported by sources. I might look further into this later.

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I received various "suck a cock"-style emails from two different editors (they could of course be the same person), but I'm not interested in using Knowledge (XXG)'s procedures to pursue this matter for the reasons stated above.

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If you think there are not enough references for such a statement, then please advise what to change, rather than deleting the section ;) The text I used for the section was a direct quote from an article which I referenced.

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While such general commentary could be appropriate for a newspaper article, I don't think such generalizations and material not directly related to the subject of the article is relevant for an encyclopedic article on a poem.

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and a host of other terms. If you know of a reason why "regime" fits the bill better than these, explain it. In the meantime, I ask you not to use the term "vandalism" which you claimed falsely, and I further ask that you

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I know but I honestly don't have the time or the energy to fight things like this full-blown anymore. If a legitimate discussion seem to be taking place, I may drop in but I'm afraid I can't be any more help than that.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.

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PrimeHunter's point is as follows: the first link contains your statement "we don't even post it when the US Democratic Party choose their presidential candidate", and the second link demonstrates that, yes, we do.

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Germans is the problem, we can find a way around it. The point is however, that the party was formed in 1922 but it went though name changes. It continued even in West Germany until the state banned it in 1956.

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You were the one who wrote a manipulative comment. If you're so confident that it is not a valid vote, then there are no reason for your comments like that ones your have recently put in the voting section.

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perpetrated on Knowledge (XXG). I don't want to engage here on my talk page with editors who have made comments like the one cited, and if what he is now saying is really true, I don't know what is worst.

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If you make a cast-iron commitment here to not impugn the motives of others and to focus on debating the merits of the two options, it should cancel out all of the "support" votes in that ANI thread. --

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Messed up your comment on Chelsea Manning, but seems you got it restored. Really sorry. I am totally out of my depth, not having edited seriously for montns and months (more like years and years). --

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a proposed discussion guideline or ignoring other users' views, or writing part of that guideline as an admitted attack on another editor. The battlegrounding is done by the ones favouring Bradley.

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that may be improved or translated. As you have already edited some of the listed articles, we thought you might be interested, and accept the challenge. Hope that you will join us. Thanks!!!

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for the duration of the case. Unless otherwise provided for in the final decision, any sanction imposed pursuant to this injunction will automatically lapse upon the closure of the case.

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the longer statements are the less likely they will actually be read. Conciseness and brevity throughout ones participation is the key to arbcom cases. Which is why we have such limits.

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I just removed the "barnstar" I awarded you with. That was beyond dickish for me to do. It was wrong, and so was I. I appologize and will not do anything like that ever again to you

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As you have just started editing, I hope you find the following selection of links helpful and that they provide you with some ideas for how to get the best out of Knowledge (XXG).

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We do not vote at Knowledge (XXG). I have voiced my support for Prime Minister and backed it up with arguments and sources. We are not finished looking at sources. You repeatedly

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when calling me disruptive. It is a content dispute at most. I have edited for six years, and you feel me to be disruptive or spreading vandalism, please report it to the admins.

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Yes, any abusive use of the Knowledge (XXG) e-mail system should be reported to the Arbitration Committee via e-mail, especially if the abuse is severe or repeated. Thank you.

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Yes, I agree it was slightly too long before. I was aware of the problem, but I didn't think such a high profile article should have a maintenance tag for an extended period.

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and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

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That's perfectly ok. I had noticed that bullet point moving around a lot on its own. I overlooked the point regarding not posting a separate bullet point as the proposer.

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someone would make ad homs in this sort of situation. I think it's important to have an outlet to vent that stress so that it doesnt needlessly affect the debate itself.

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Indeed it would and I, personally, would be satisfied with that. Looking for a distinction between "That's offensive because..." and "That's transphobic".--v/r -

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i dont really care which one is used but can't we try being a little consistent; thank you _consistency10:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)10:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)~~

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well, as they seemed to be blocked already i didn't bother. I don't really have much faith in Knowledge (XXG)'s own procedures anyway after the Manning debacle.

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is consistingly used to describe the head of government of German federal states, so there is no need to changed it only in two cases of current interest. --

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Josh, if those hate mails are real, I'm sorry about that. If they came as you state through wikipedia, are you going to report the editors who sent them? --

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Hi there. Thanks for your ongoing contributions to this article. However, I get the impression that some of your edits are not totally in accordance with

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I haven't read enough about the dispute to talk competently about it, but I did want to offer general support for you and your position on this. I think

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Thanks for the article! As it is basically a translation of the German article, this should be noted as a courtesy to its original authors. Thank you. --

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Don't waste your time. When dealing with someone who says "I'm correct" with no factual evidence, you are unlikely to change that sort of persons mind.

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If you insist on using Prime Minister instead of Minister-President, would you please be consequent and change it everywhere where it is used. The term

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Josh, I don't know if you will read this, but as one of the arbitrators who participated in the case in question, I wanted to make a couple of points:

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No one is objecting to the move discussion. But we had a long discussion about why to hold this on a sub page, primarily because of page size issues.

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The Arbitration Committee has passed a temporary injunction in the case in which you are a party to. The full text of the injunction follows:

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I appreciate your concern, but what good is it going to do to argue about it? There is an ultimate goal here which is bigger than that.

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This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

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You may be able to avoid a block for violating your sanction if you will take down the material about Pvt. Manning that you posted on

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This barnstar is awarded in recognition of your contributions to building the evidence base for the Chelsea Manning move. Well done!

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never adds anything to the debate at hand, and raising it on an article talk page just obfuscates and obscures the real argument. --

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tag. Also, I see no sections without "referencing" at all, and I note that multiple users have already opposed your proposed tag.

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Yeah, well that was discussed in detail IIRC. I didn't have an opinion in it one way or another, but that was what was decided.

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Oh and in case you want to know how the 700 is being calculated, copy and paste your section from the rendered section here:

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topic or individual, broadly construed. He is also topic banned from all pages (including biographies) related to leaks of

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The Entrepreneur's Barnstar is given to recognize new editors who have made great strides to contribute to Knowledge (XXG).

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I disagree. Every word Josh said on ANI was reasonable. But if you want to participate in the debate, Josh, stop with the

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to

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is right, to a degree, in that ad homs can forestall successful de-escalation. All the same, I think i can understand

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I do not deny that an AfD took place. Your comments suggested that I would have done what you have enumerated above.

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Er, Leicchauser is the one who makes personal attacks against me constantly. I merely reply to his personal attacks.

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distinct) to get things moving. That's not to say it's appropriate in this case -- again, havent read enough of it.

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transgender, including but not limited to Chelsea/Bradley Manning. Any sanctions imposed should be logged at the

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And if you've never done anything like that, then why do so many of us keep getting the impression that you do?

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No, I haven't heard about Help:Import. The article isn't 100 % translated (at least not the version I wrote).

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to comply with the guidelines. Now it focuses on the essential information and looks very good. Well done! --

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You do not have to participate in the vote. This is your choice. I never admitted to deleting any comment.

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No, I didn't say that. A couple of users have been involved in this behaviour, all while a discussion at

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I think that if there is a clear, linear line for the CDU nominees, then there shouldn't be a problem.

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Move discussions normally take place on the main talk page, which are more visible than a sub page.

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It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can

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Who exactly is "we" and what guideline/policy reinforces your opinion? I don't recall the part of

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on having a vote. We have only just started looking at the relevant sources. This is what matters.

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I should have known, then denying this behaviour by you guys took place at all. As a user who has

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Its a shame you aren't here anymore but you've definitely made wikipedia a better place. Thanks.

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Hi Josh, quick question for you: why was the section about Background of Germany removed?

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worrying what page it is on. Also, you might want to notify interested projects. Cheers!

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Please show examples for these allegations. I don't think you are talking about me here.

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its not about that, its about obiwankenobi ignoring the procedures of requested moves.

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Can you please stop your manipulation and actually be civil when discussing the topic.

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It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these

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Hello Josh Gorand. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of

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administrators' noticeboard, pretending to be just some "observer"(!). What's next?

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resolution, consider this a warning not to engage in edit warring over the article.

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Because you've violated your topic ban on your user page, I've raised the issue to

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Ah, I see, I went to Wulff's page to see if it followed and hadn't seen any there.

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Hey, I'd like to send an email to you, but you don't have it enabled as of yet.

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I appreciate that. Thank you (although I wasn't really that offended by it).

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for exceptional contributions to various articles in a short time as a user.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=What_Must_Be_Said&action=history

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regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is

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Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.

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seems I'm the lucky recipient of barnstars from everyone today.

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But you can't change their behavior, while you can change yours.

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you will take the time to correct those inaccurate statements.

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I am not sure how to better handle misconceptions of the term "

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Hello, Josh Gorand. Please check your email; you've got mail!

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And what's your point? You're linking to one of my comments.

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All right. I am going to leave "dictatorship" per consensus.

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I hope your comment could be looked on as a personal attack.

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http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/countwords.shtml

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Can you do something to give us a different impression? —

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article

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I have never done anything like that, I'm not the one

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on Lower Saxony if you're so interested on the topic.

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