675:, good thought. This was indeed the first place to properly and authoritatively document the nest of Russian fake news sites. I was shocked - shocked! - to find that right-wing populist xenophobes who benefited from Russian disinformation, have criticised EUvDisnifo. Once you take out primary-sourced opinion, there's a legitimate criticism of an apparently sloppy error that was corrected too slowly, wrapped around with the inevitable inflated political rhetoric that could probably be toned down some. What's most noticeable (on Googling) is that the loudest opposition seems to echo (and I know you'll have a hard time believing this) Russian talking points, for example that the Russian invasion of Donbass is really a lot of freedom fighters and not at all an invasion funded and supplied by Russia, oh dear me no. How very dare the EU believe Ukrainian sources about this, and not Russian ones?
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when there must be tens of thousands of old deletion discussions. Are all of these pages just uncategorized? Well, that makes it impossible to find anything. I never understood why SPI cases are also uncategorized, too. So, it is basically impossible to locate old deletion discussions unless you know
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I'm glad that you're around lately and thanks for the above links. Just in case it also interests you, since it's related, this article may need revision/update, including IRT the important role it played recently. A few months back it attracted some criticism (probably unsurprising). Some of it
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I wasn't payed for the article so why should it be spamming it i just felt like the article worth being published on
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century and 21st century evangelicals. Evangelicals had turned from opposition to war to supporting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; from equal rights to opposing the
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