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Walther, and I think a third? But looking back through history, the US military was developing 6mm high velocity ammunition as early as 1895, and had developed the winchester 1907 select-fire self-loading rifle. One of the big myths seems to be the idea that ww1 was trench centric throughout the entire war, and that ww2 warfare was revolutionary, when, in fact, the warfare used in ww2 was pioneered near the end of ww1 by pretty much every country. Germany developed "sturmtruppen" tactics at the end of ww1, and, as I understand it, warfare in ww1 had moved away from the walking fire concepts from the start of ww1. In france, for instance, their army investigated the Ribeyrolle CM 1918, and were generally satisfied but wanted it to have better accuracy at ~400m. The AR article says that the german army developed the revolutionary concept of a Ribeyrolle CM 1918 type rifle with accurate fire up to ~400m in ~1944. Basically the entire article seems to come down to pop-history. Another important point is the StG-44's influence on the AK-47. It does seem to have influenced the AK-47, but it's influence seems to be overstated. There do seem to be sources that say that russia liked the 7.92 kurz cartridge's performance and decided to base the AK-47, along with the several other similar projects that had been started earlier and later in russia along similar lines around a cartridge with similar performance to the 7.92 kurz, but how much of an influence was that really? There also seems to be the general idea that the AK-47 might have adopted the StG-44's over the barrel gas system, although I don't know how well that's supported, but it seems like the StG-44 didn't have a great influence on the broad strokes of the russian rifle development, rather the most that can be said is that russian rifle development was moving in several directions at the time which eventually coalesced around the ak-47, which was widely adopted roughly in the late '50s. Another big lie is that the automatic mode on the stg-44 was only for emergency use. It was mostly a semi-automatic weapon. This idea that it was used as a machine gun doesn't seem to be supported.
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The article which seems to be more of a dumping ground for some of the worst war propaganda of the mid 20th century seems to be half hitler's katana myth and half kalishnakov myth, where wiki gun project editors take in the beautiful and moving story soviet PR smiths spun about a wounded farmer-soldier being the champion of the entire world, neglecting all factual basis or any restraint on the part of the PR team. Thought I'd give you a head's up.
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1698:(A-Class appraisal) until it was posted about just now. But yes, it was an interesting test case which resulted in comments such as: "This source is fine"; "I think the lede is excellent"; "The more detail the better"; "No, this is important"; "I suggest you have a look at some other military biographical articles and educate yourself, because you are way off base with this"; "You would need to establish that
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1572:) the "von" is a part of the family name since 1919 (when nobility was officially abolished). As an illustration,the families "Mannstein" and "von Mannstein" have nothing to doi with each-other. To be sure, and to gain some consensus one way or the other, I'll post this to the appropriate WikiProject. I'll post a link later on. Until such time, I respectfully disagree.
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Thanks for letting me know. Should I post there? I've not been part in an ANI regarding a non-blocked editor, so not sure what the decorum is. Your comments are spot on -- definitely something fishy going on. Both editors have a tendency to remove maintenance templates, place "in use" signs, and then
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I've noticed that you pay close attention to ww2 apocrypha. Are you interested in the StG-44 myth? Editors are pushing that myth very hard on the assault rifle page, that the stg-44 developed by hitler's wunderwaffen project was the first assault rifle and the father of all ARs that came after it.
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Awards: unneeded unreliable propaganda material? - Not at all, he is certainly no nazi hero! judging by your previous edits of this page you clearly have something against this guy though. Marking it for deletion because of lack of information, but continually deleting any provided - now that is nazi
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I first came across the template in relation to a public figure article and have used it a few times since. There are still editors who believe that adding walls of text or an excessive amount of intricate detail will lead to a better article. Just add the brackets, if the article as a whole suffers
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You say that, but the reassess has been open for over a month and the article has only gotten worse. All context for the requirements of the A-X and by extension of the A-10 was removed as were most mentions of the aircraft it replaced, which was also the aircraft A-X designs were measured against.
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is not reliable"; "I strongly disagree. I personally prefer the German version"; "It has been accepted by consensus of the
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I'm sympathetic to your goals with that GAR (and aware of the reversionism that lead to it), but not sure that using GAR as a way to twist a wikiproject's arm will be very productive. The FA process would clean up the same problems, and they appear convinced this is destined for FA. But, I'm not
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Thank you for pitching in on the article as well. It has needed a lot of work and I can only spend a certain amount of time on the article. Given the statements I have seen concerning that article I wonder if perhaps trivial and excessive details are a systemic issue among the military articles.
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I have responded to your request to reassess 'Robert M. Citno'. I believe it has the correct assessment now. The article seems to be little more than a list of awards, and a list of books. There is nothing about his personal life. Since I am reviewing for the 'Biography
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Yes, it is OK to post :) The ANI post is actually for inviting comments! The only thing to remember is to stick to facts (and diffs), use a dispassionate tone and point out the flaws but not to indulge in personal attacks against the editor themselves (civility is the most important thing).
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Ummm.... I read your comments on that page and apart from reference to a single edit, there's not much of a consensus there. Consensus takes more than one person, or two, after all. Moreover, checking for some appropriate pages I did not find much in the way of guidelines except
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Wehrmacht article to this (linked above) list article. Looking at the overview section therein, it seems redundant to the list of the article which follows it. Thoughts?
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Hi, On the "von"-front the news is that the german wiki strongly prefers 'von So-and-so' and the opinion was shared that en.wp should ultimately conform to this. I strongly agree with that. If, however, I were to insist on a proper surname, that surname would be
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Hi K.e. Just a heads up, but it may be worth while revisting the debate. There has been a drastic and positive series of edits which satisfy my concerns. Obviously you have your own opinions, but take a look at the new version. Regards mate
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hopefully realize that the "von" is actually part of his name, that the giy is named "von
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Dear Sir, may I kindly and humbly ask you to add a link to the above published (on the 08.xii.2015 in the
National News Section of THE MALTA INDEPENDENT) source for any future reference since it is of International interest.
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Independent German, Belgian as well as French academics describe the surviving Siegried Grabert dispatches âa significant findâ. The letters written in SĂŒtterlin, the historical form of German script, await transcription.
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I noticed that you have commenced a community reassessment of a different article. Given your expertise in such matters you may want to examine the one pertaining to this article cited above.
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should apply to "their" articles); I don't need to add to that collection, so I'm not sure how much I'd want to get involved in this. PS: Minor request â could you please use
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I was "lol" about "'non RS and not used for citations'...instead of saying 'These are neo-Nazi publications.'" I'd been thinking one day I'd write a one sentence essay called
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Dear Sir, The gentleman who posted sourced content was acting on my behalf. I am the owner of the Siegfried Grabert Archive and I really appreciate if you might contact me at
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You are right; I should have responded sooner. But as can be seen from the thread, it was taking a lot of back & forth on the thread to get to the bottom of the concern:
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This is not really a wikipedia matter; wikipedia deals with published secondary sources, rather than archival material. I'm not exactly sure what I am being asked to do.
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The Atlantic. A Brief History of the Assault Rifle. The gunâs name may have been coined by Adolf Hitler. by MICHAEL SHURKIN. JUN 30, 2016
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The Atlantic. A Brief History of the Assault Rifle. The gunâs name may have been coined by Adolf Hitler. by MICHAEL SHURKIN. JUN 30, 2016
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Are you interested in the false, stg-44 centric history of the assault rifle?
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In general, you can see the AfDs I started or participated in via this handy
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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Wolfgang LĂŒth
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and more :-). There are dozens of similarly flawed articles, such as
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Well, at least you're not entirely alone in raising the issues.
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I suggest you stop, otherwise I will take your conduct to ANI"
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I don't recall reviewing this article, I am afraid. --
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Thanks for the heads-up. I responded on the AfD page.
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Thanks for the tip; I will be on the lookout for it.
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suggests notability, so I removed my prod. Cheers, --
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Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste
2502:At least one can have fun with edit summaries. :-)
2491:Another good one is "Uncited since ", in this case
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2097:I would be inclined toward an RfC, advertised at
1074:, Sterling Publishing Company, Inc., 2002, p. 218
2382:, I'd put "removing intricate detail" there. :-P
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2009:they find on dubious web sites and forums
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1366:Hi K.e.coffman. Just so you know, I've
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348:Glad to help. All the best,
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1727:Heinrich von Vietinghoff
1718:Other reverts, such as:
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1482:Frances Cress Welsing
735:, while also being a
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