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I'm glad we've sorted it out. Another thing: I was not notified that the articles I started were proposed for deletion, so I suspect that the authors of the other articles tagged in your today's campaign might also not have been notified, as it would be right procedure. In the case you haven't done
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Now, on to your first issue; Don't assume that the burden of make an article notable lies with me. It lies, in my opinion, with the person who created the article. If you feel that there is more out there, then do it yourself. You know, as opposed to suggesting that my motives are to be questioned.
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And a good day to you as well. Since you took the time to address your concerns, the least that I can do is respond to them. First, I think it should be stated right up front that I never use the "Google" method. Second, I have had nothing but frustration when it comes to placing tags. The one you
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Well, I do use it actually. However, the computer at work, which I am on now, does not support it. IE only apparently. So, the majority of my work is simple patrolling for weasels and PoV. To be honest, I am probably not going to worry about tagging anymore. There is just too much hostility for my
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After I was done, I got the amusing idea that someone was bound to make the assumption that I was some
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The second issue, or point, as it is an opinion, is regarding the talk pages of articles. I have noticed that many of the articles I have encountered have no activity at all on their respective pages. This tells me that they are rarely visited. I could make a point for deletion or citation or what
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Good day to you sir. I have no issues with anyone or anyplace. What I did was hit Random
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While I understand your points, agree with them even, I feel I must raise two particular points of my own. Oh, thank you for taking the time to write me about this matter. Anyways, the first issue I have is with the sheer volume of applicable templates one can use. Oftentimes they contain similar
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Indeed I saw that you are a relatively new editor: that's exactly why I thought I should mention this. It's just meant as advice, not as criticism. We can always improve ourselves even further; I'm a firm believer in life-long learning. That's what
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Hi. I'm going to reverse part of your recent edit on Cujo - the section where it mentions
Stephen King's views on the book. I assume, given your edit, that you believe it's unreferenced (it certainly doesn't fall into "Weasel Words" territory). However, it's not unreferenced, there is a link
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have you, but it could be weeks or even months before anyone stumbles across it. In reality, the way I see it, if I go around tagging articles, people can do as they please. I figure it's good enough just calling attention to them.
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