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There is more to do to clarify that majority view. Proponents of the neuro-linguistic programming are likely to claim majority views are irrelevant if those sources did no direct measurement of the neuro-linguistic programming. It is a common pseudo-scientific objection similar to; you have to try it for yourself to understand it. That can be clarified in the article.
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Sources show what is obvious to most science literate readers when they read the phrase. They show that the neuro-linguistic programming is as pseudo-scientific as it sounds. Neuro-linguistic programming is intrinsically misleading and obscurantic and care should be taken to make that point clearer.
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I'm still new at this and apologize for not bringing these matters up in the appropriate forum previously: I'm intending to clean up the NLP article. At the moment it reads as very imbalanced with 'scientific' support overreaching its findings, self-referencing and the use of value-laden terminology.
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I looked at the history and found that it was you who removed the attribution to OED and plagiarized it by removing the quotes and attributing it to someone else. Please make the necessary adjustments so this does not happen again. Why exactly did you remove the quote from the OED and attribute it to
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Hi LKK, I think that it is possible to improve the articles related to NLP. I would suggest that you read closely the WP:FRINGE guidelines. Do you think that it applies to writing an article on NLP? I'm trying to find fertile ground in editors can work collaboratively. -Reconsolidation (talk) 09:07,
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Secondly: Glasner-Edwards and Rawson simply quote
Norcross et al. There is no "scientific evidence" - their methodology was to ask non-experts in the domain with at best rudimentary and outdated representations of the domain, whether they believed that this "thing" worked. The valid conclusion from
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Re-Lam Kin Keung, You deleted a heavily referenced paragraph that included a quote by one of the leading psychoanalysts in the country from
Columbia University without explanation. You requested for further dialogue in the changelog. I'm not sure what additional information you require than the
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Lam Kin Keung, You deleted a heavily referenced paragraph that included a quote by one of the leading psychoanalysts in the country from
Columbia University without explanation. You requested for further dialogue in the changelog. I'm not sure what additional information you require than the
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On 1 January 2005, RAU ceased to exist as such, when its campus and some campuses of the now defunct
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I noticed that all your edits to other pages are minor and uncontroversial except for your edits to the article about NLP. You reverted me just then and said that it needed to be discussed. The reasons for my changes are quite clear if you read the edit comments and the changes I made. You are
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Lam Kin Keung, I'm trying to include in the article quotes from one of the most respected psychoanalysts in the country who is on the faculty of
Columbia University. You have repeatedly deleted his quote without explanation. Please learn about brain plasticity from the sources that have been
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Hi. You have undone my addition to the history of Rand
Afrikaans University yesterday. I actually wrote that the school ceased to exist. Did it not? Did it it exist? Yes or no? Does it exist? Yes or no, please. Reply to these twe, then we'll talk again. Thanks in advance.
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this is that these people don't regard what they perceive NLP to 'be' works. To put three sentences of the opening section of the article into making such statements adds unwarranted weight to what are essentially unqualified, outdated opinions.
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LKK, you have not taken the approach you are advocating with your own edits, none of which have been referenced. But you are asking for that approach for the most well referenced inclusions in the article, which is clearly a mistake.
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Hello Lam Kin Keung. Sorry for the rude tone at the beginning. I was at that univerity and am really sorry it merged with lower-level and less renouned institutions (though it was not itself a great one, after
Stellenbosch, Potch and
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By deleting quotes from the most well respected people in the psychoanalysis community you are vandalizing this website repeatedly. You offer no facts -- just links to wikipedia rules that you do not follow yourself.
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I strongly suggest you revise your draft to take into account significant other points of view. I don't want you to fall into the trap that some proponents do (i.e. confirmation bias). We have to keep impartial here.
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You are engaging in the slow edit war. You have attempted using a different ID to remove and marginalize the evidence based view that neuro-linguistic programming appears on lists of discredited interventions
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It is not clear what you are saying here. What are the counter-arguments? You also need to rewrite the draft using an impartial tone. Have you found a source which critiques your "scientific skepticism" POV?
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Thank you for the extra information. I will have a closer look. Feel free to make any changes yourself. I am not sure how much you know about editing
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and targeted elements of NLP that are of little or no relevance to NLP as it is used today. That some would consider NLP as 'largely discredited pseudoscience' is not supported by scientific evidence.
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The current draft is fine. It has good multiple sources coming from the scientific skepticism view. More can be added on to it in the article when more sources support those views.
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My writing style is developed from a lot of dictionary use and grammar checks. If it is similar to other people then I guess they use the dictionary and grammar checker too.
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There are appropriate criticisms of elements of NLP that should not be discredited because they are difficult to identify from the mess.
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