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repeating things in general is a bad thing? I think the main part of my input to that page as of that edit (there are two things with that same timestamp, not just one) was a refutation of the somewhat tiresome (and highly repetitive) incorrect assertion by A Nobody that notability is not a deletion criterion. That is manifestly false, something that is not at all notable doesn't merit an article here, as we are not limitless in scope. Perhaps you could speak to A Nobody about his repetitiveness. He regurgitates the same stuff word for word, and evinces little or no thought in doing so... almost deliberate contempt for those he engages with, don't you agree?. I suspect I'm not the only person tired by it. But all that said, thanks for your input, I'll take it under consideration. ++

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use of quoted copyrighted material on user pages is very widespread, and that Erik's nomination is flawed for not recognising that... and Erik's chosen not to change his nom. So be it. As it stands now, the acrimony is getting in the way of resolving the larger question, which is whether the NFC policy needs to be changed, or alternatively, if a big campaign to clean user pages needs to be initiated. I bet the people I gave example pages of don't even think they did anything wrong. And there are thousands more pages like them. ++

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the genuine answer should have been sufficient), and I removed it again. You put it back and called it a full fledged warning, as if somehow the prior post was anything other than an obvious warning based upon the view you hold and already articulated. This is not the way people are supposed to act here when they are trying to resolve a perceived problem. The action of mine you called "disruption" was done once and stopped. The disruption of my talk page you are doing is ongoing. It's bordering on

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isolated incident it might be better dealt with on-wiki, publicly? As admins, do either of you have any thoughts on this? (Lar, you can forward Versa my last emails if you still have them - but I believe they got sent to tehe CU mailing list, or Versa if you need more information I can give you a run-down myself). Either way, any significant action isn't going to occur until about this time next week, or possibly on thursday evening (

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I'm an admin, and I can, and will, post whatever is necessary to be posted, whereever necessary. You're welcome to remove warnings (and the warning will then be taken as read) but not to make statements about who can or cannot post on your page. You are welcome to continue the discussion here, because I don't remove things from my page, I'm fine with them staying visible. Unlike you and A Nobody. Man up. ++

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Let's see here. First you asked me a question that was clearly intended to be an outright accusation instead of an honest question. I answered and then removed it from my talk page. You restored it and repeated yourself, claiming that my answer was unsatisfactory to you (if it were a genuine question

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Finally, I think it's in the encyclopaedia's best interests that we don't pin down the rules about this too specifically. I think that if we create clear rules on how consensus can trump policy, we will thereby be creating clear rules on how to game the system, and the result is that the system will

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Calling Jack on his continued baiting results in a slap fight on my talk page? Frightening. We all know the rules Lar. I can remove anyones comment on my talk page. I am also aware of 3RR. I am sure some editors will come along and see your unwelcome reversions and revert you, and it will be all for

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Thanks for the input, I'll take it under consideration. But I've re-read that page (it gets mentioned on a lot of places from time to time, as you may know) and I have to say I'm not sure how to map the players here to that one... Still, it's instructive. I've made my points: that despite policy, the

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I recognize that this user page belongs to the Knowledge project and not to me personally. As such, I recognize that I am expected to respectfully abide by community standards as to the presentation and content of this page, and that if I do not like these guidelines, I am welcome either to engage in

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self admitted list, you will see years of edit warring, POV pushing, attacks upon editors, and just all around corruption. Just taking a glance at how they operate at the POV board is utterly frightening, as they are the ones that seem to be pushing some of the worse POV out there. I think this is a

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for Flickr-washing. It means that somebody uploads a (not own) image that is copyrighted or with unclear copyright to his own Flickr account, claiming or suggesting it was taken by him/herself and putting it under a Commons-acceptable license. Thereafter the same person or his/her accomplice uploads

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I prefer not to get enmeshed in the actual dispute. My purpose in coming by your talk page was to caution you against outing people, or threatening to carry out real life actions that some might consider harassment (such as calling the workplace of someone), whether on purpose or inadvertantly. You

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This user edits from one IP. Although there is evidence that this user edits logged out, and edits from another userID (sock), already blocked, I find no evidence that any other IP was used to log in as this user. That means it is extremely unlikely that the account was hacked by someone not in the

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2) DRV isn't supposed to be MFD II → That's a common meme at DRV, and it's there for the good reason that it can be used to foreclose discussion of questions that don't belong at DRV. These are the boring questions. But the interesting questions at DRV are the ones where the consensus at the XfD

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What are you talking about? You removed the comment of someone in a deletion discussion. That's not acceptable. I restored it and warned you. I have no idea what else you're talking about, but you clearly have a very large blind spot, your friendship with A Nobody is leading you astray. As a note,

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Has it occurred to you that repeating an argument word for word is likely to be interpreted as an indication of either lack of thought or deliberate contempt? Assuming you agree with the earlier argument exactly, wouldn't it at least help to have added some more detail to the cursory argument?

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However, equally, I think that although a local consensus has the power to do that, it is not to be exercised lightly; and a subsequent consensus can overturn it. I also think the strength of local consensus required varies from case to case. So for example, I think a local consensus to suspend

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3) how do you tell when (fiat based) policy must trump consensus (or the clear lack of it, as in this case, which is a special kind of consensus, the consensus to do nothing) → That's very much a matter of opinion and the threshold varies depending on who you ask. I can only give you my personal

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Pretty much what I expected. Thanks guys, I let sleeping dogs lie with that last issue, you check for me Lar about the same user (if you recall), though it has just occurred to me they overlap and it is time to have a word. I am leaning towards off wiki (by email), buuut considering this isn't an

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I'm just wondering, have I ever had any encounters with you that would cause you to "Nod" in agreement with Ottava Rima's personal attacks on me? Do you have any reason to believe I am lying about who I am, or what my background is? Do you have any basis for implying that I "make a lot of todo

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Hi DGG, thanks for stopping by. It hadn't previously occurred to me that someone might actually take a simple repeat of an argument as "deliberate contempt", any more than just saying "per so and so" would be deliberate contempt. But on reflection, is this a specific issue, or do you think that

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Well if you did it by mistake because you truly forgot that he's Jack Merridew (although it's odd that you woud given the page title) now, then no worries. But it read like sort of an attack to me. Using names as attack vectors (saying "you're just a little part of wIKIPedia" or "you're just A

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Nobody" or "you're quite the Moby DICK" or what have you) doesn't seem a good practice, no matter who does it. This conflict, or whatever it is, has gotten unpleasant in some ways (no one of the major participants is blameless) so trying to find a way to dial it down would be goodness I think.

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Um, who says I "disagreed" with it? If I had disagreed with it, I would have just removed it (per a recent community discussion that discourages nudity on user and user talk pages) Also, I didn't nom it for deletion. You did. All I did was ask some questions about it, at which point you went

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is accepted. In future please try reading for meaning before going off half cocked, and try assuming good faith before casting aspersions and jumping to unwarranted assumptions. You'll find things go much more smoothly... you've been here (under this account anyway) since at least January so

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I would still like advice on what would be better, RfC, ANI, ArbCom, or the rest on the matter. It is not a content dispute but a group of editors that have caused a systematic problem (technically, two groups, but Alefbe and Kurdo777 have their own issues separate from the above group).

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One great way not to feel harassed is to actually engage in honest and open dialog, so welcome to my talk page, where things almost never get removed. Unfortunately, it's possible that you seem not to actually like to have open dialog though, and further I think you're misapplying

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Commons, as I said before, can be somewhat spotty in outcomes. But more importantly, stop trying to poison the debate by casting aspersions. You continue to assume bad faith. When you discontinue that, and speak in reasonable tones, I'll be more interested in what you have to say.

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to Commons on 10 July and forwarded the email release to OTRS at 9:14 AM that day, but it's not yet been tagged for permission confirmed. The email's subject line is "Commons image File:Selma Reformed Presbyterian Church.jpg"; would you look for this email? Thanks!

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I seem to recall that several people have done that recently, including Jack? But I maybe mistaken. I think it really depends on what the editor feels. Jack, for example, prominently, and may I say proudly(?) displays his former name on his user page. I think under

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Saw that, thanks for raising it, I've replied there. Let's leave it as it is now till it's settled. But I'm not seeing what this has to do with anyone allegedly following anyone else around, though, it seems to be about templates and edit summaries.

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same physical location as this user, and further, extremely unlikely that the user's claim that someone else was making the recent edits he is denying responsibility for is true, unless he switches to "my little brother did it" style explanation. ++

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with ::saying no. The original claims of the blanking was that there was consensus on the talk page or even a discussion. If you follow the first link, you will see a long history of operating in such a manner. If you expand it to

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Thanks for letting me know. I've responded there, I think it's an interesting question. I hope you'll choose to engage in constructive discussion, as you are welcome to do so here about the issues I've raised. In passing, I found

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about the section name, which I did BEFORE you templated me. Please don't template people if they have moved to the talk page, it's rude. Normally I try hard to subscribe to 1RR so sorry for reverting you more than once.

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Can we do anything about our friend Howes, now editing and attacking me as an anon IP? Next time someone gets ticked off at me for something, they will use this guy's attacks as if they were legitimate complaints? See

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As for the title, I'd rather not edit war over it, but I've changed it to what I really think it should be, this isn't about Jack, or you, or me, it's about an etiquette point. I hope you can see that and abide.

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reason. So, this juicy picture of a quite possibly underage girl is beneficial to the project just how? I've got the Commons discussion watchlisted and am still looking for just what "flickrwashed" means. Cheers,

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I think you'll have a bit of trouble getting that allegation to stick. I came to your page to learn more about you, (as I expect people do all the time, I know my page is written to give more information about

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is a good example of rather blatant tag teaming. There are many, many books devoted to calling it a Christian epic, yet Folantin insisted simply because it was a page that I worked on. Funny how that happens.

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responded with what I felt were good points about credentials and arguments from authority so I agreed with you, even though they were tangential to the caution. That advice about actions to avoid stands. ++

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I think a local (talk page or AfD) consensus can agree to suspend a global consensus in the case of one particular article. I think anyone who does not understand this has failed to think hard enough about

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I will be changing it again, I think there are several parties, and it's probably more useful to go with a description of the general question, don't you? You have some open questions in this thread. ++

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haven't satisfactorily addressed why you tagged something as a CSD that was going through deletion discussions. But as long as you realize that doing that again may get you blocked, we can be done. ++

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Editors like you and Jack are so predictable. You will keep harrassing and baiting editors until the enivitable happens. I just don't understand what kind of satisfaction you get out of such behavior.

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and allow unsourced allegations of child abuse against a living person would require such a vast consensus and such overwhelmingly strong arguments that I can't foresee it ever happening in practice.

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was wrong. Consensus at XfD can be wrong, and DRV is the place to fix it because there's nowhere else. When there really is a credible argument that the consensus at the XfD was wrong, we tacitly

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Thanks. It appears to be ticket 2009071010039483 ... let me do a bit of research and (if possible) I'll tag the file for you. If not, I'll let you know (via email I think! :) ) what the issue is. ++

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The suggestion that an established Flickr contributor would be "Flickrwashing" images is spurious; images of this nature are regularly retained as a result of commons deletion discussions such as

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be gamed. So I am reluctant to be pinned down very closely on how strong a local consensus needs to be, exactly; I feel that's a decision to be made from case to case on the merits of that case.

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I'm not sure, and don't have the deep background. A well thought out answer would take more thought than I care to devote right now and I'm not sure a flippant answer would be a good idea. :) ++

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If I were in a heated content dispute with an editor, and I visited their userpage, found an element with which I disagreed, and nominated it for deletion, then you would be the one warning me.

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Thanks. I appreciate someone else making the same point. We seem to be losing a sense of institutional memory over there at the same time as that page has become a lot more efficient. Oh well.

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prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for

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and allow an article on a full professor at a major university to be kept would require two or three well-reasoned !votes from editors in good standing; but a local consensus to suspend

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Since Jack followed by yourself, continue to "pop up" where A Nobody is editing, maybe we should clarify what names are prefered. I replied on the page and made a new talk page heading.

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no problem, I responded again. The standard policy it seems on the page is to name the person you have a question about. We can clarify this on the talk page if you like.

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that people not post there, but you may not REQUIRE it. This is all administrative information that you need to be aware of and you ignore any of it at your peril. ++

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Thanks for the heads up. I've commented there. My TPWs are invited to take a look as well. Long term I think we need an RfC to get policy in this area clarified. ++

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I am not clear why this is being run again. 50 participants to decide about an experiment seems plenty. Were you hoping for a different outcome than last time? ++

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As the person who removed the disruptive tagging you did, DreamGuy, I echo Lar's concerns. I see little point in what you did other than intentional disruption.

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You may be interested in a discussion and poll I've started to decide the criteria that will be used for promoting users to the reviewer group at

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I suspect he was agreeing to the principle, not as applied to you personally. Read it in context of trying to advise someone and defuse tension.

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Got the mail. Seems a good idea. May not get to the task right away. Not to worry, I check my mail a lot so pings usually aren't needed. ++

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Interesting reading. When you said at the DRV you were going to take it here, I was about to fire back "no, these questions matter to

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about credentials but doesn't have the writing/research skills to make good contributions?" If not, why are you saying such things?

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if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the

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That was a good thing to do, but it seems to have petered out. How to get it going again? There? or somewhere else? ++

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Well, it may have been interpretted as an error about calling him by his previous name, that is why I reverted it.

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very serious situation and that this little group needs to be broken up. Any advice on how? RfC? ArbCom? AN?

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Please see my talkpage where we conversed earlier. Break a rule and remove this once read, as you wish.

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Thanks on both counts! It's not often that we get new pictures for isolated NRHP listings in Alaska.

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and note (a) how nasty the argument became and (b) the outcome. You're making fools of yourselves. --

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Thanks. That's rather what I expected but had not found; I was guessing poorly re shortcuts. Cheers,

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not lately... besides ... 15,000 elements? Who cares! why steal milk when you own the whole cow? ++

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Best to ignore those diatribes. I've warned. If it continues, ping me here again and I'll block. ++

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Since I am still welcome to post here (thank you), I thought I would let you know about this:

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PS, that page IS good reading... you should review the whole thing. Especially where it says

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Versageek checked too, I see. OK where to put these results??? Please advise. Here they are:

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I will respectful change it back, and ask on the talk page, where you can share your view.

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Saw that, responded... think it's more nuanced than 100% always. Also, I responded on the

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reasonable discussion about it, to publish my material elsewhere, or to leave the project.

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National Register of Historic Places listings in Southeast Fairbanks Census Area, Alaska

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1) Why no edit of the year 2006? → I've yet to find anything funny enough. Sorry.

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the meme that DRV is not XfD round 2. Oddly enough, it was arch-deletionist

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Lar, I responded to your question, I think you will support my answer.

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at his point, and you need to stop. For specific details you can see

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who began that practice with his brilliant closure of the DRV for

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Fork for reasons explained there. You asked me several questions:

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hopefully that's just a reminder, not new advice. Best wishes. ++

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myself, rather than allowing this matter to continue to fester.

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DRV", but perhaps not. Must think and respond in more depth. ++

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I hope this answers all the questions you raised. Cordially—

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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XLI (July 2009)

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would make good deletion nominations to get you started :)

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Tagged. Not the most solid permission but it will do. ++

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