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questions have been asked multiple years now, or how well they were received previously, including at external criticism sites and by the candidates themselves. Finally, if there is not a big gap between our positions, I guess I'm not clear what you wanted to convey, because nothing is preventing the wider community from asking questions or getting answers (well, except the restriction on asking more than one question per person on the "official" page). ++
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a possibility to ask questions - and get answers. And yes, you complied with the letter of these rules, but I felt you've been a bit pushy in trying to get the candidates to answer your questions. And yes, I am not a prolific editor at all, and never have been, though I am not sure how this is relevant. Anyway, I don't think there is a big gap between our positions. Cheers. -
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I'd been thinking of doing the same thing, actually. There are a few things that could stand better parameterization in mine as it stands (each year so far I've copied last years, and then thought about making it more standardized, and then got busy). Probably the most important one is to not link to
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I believe I know what you are referring to when you claim I was "involved" in outing. However, you definitely do NOT have the facts of that situation. If you'd like to e-mail me about it, since it is extremely sensitive, feel free. But making false accusations is really below the belt and illustrates
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Hi, I noticed you said "as well as asking my questions again this year". The election arrangements limit individual questions to per per voter per candidate, with a size limit of 75 words. The same question should not be pasted into every candidate's individual question page. You are free, of course,
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In this situation, imagine we had something I'll call a semi-block. An editor who is semi-blocked can edit an article talk page, but not an article. They are forced to make their case for inclusion/exclusion/rewrite to others, just as they would (assuming they are not admins) if full protection were
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Barring a very good explanation, I shall be opposing candidates who don't answer Lar's questions. I imagine that I will not be alone in this. It is too late to do anything about this now, but a proper consensus must be had on why it is too much for candidates to take the time to answer the questions
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Dear Lar, I also agree that your questions are excellent, and I myself would like to see the answers. I am not even sure myself that the current restrictions are wise, but I assume (I haven't checked) they reflect the community consensus. I just thought it is also important to give a wider community
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You may suggest that, yes, and thanks for sharing your view. However, it's not universally held that "the restrictions on questions are there for a" (good) "reason". Yet I've nevertheless complied with the restrictions, and set no expectation that my questions, noted as "some of the deepest and most
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Yes but where should the username parm be used? That is, what pages or sections does it point to? Other than me and my questions I think most other folks don't have special questions sections to point to so it's not necessarily needful to even have it. Which is why I was thinking of suppressing it.
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We now have the notion of restricting contributions to talk only, some topic bans already do this. But the enforcement is via admins noticing and taking action, not apriori technical restriction. What you generically want is a block that's namespace specific... For most generic applicability the UI
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My experience with ideas I think up is that I'm almost never the first to think it up, so I'm betting it has been discussed and rejected. I did a search in a couple logical places, but identifying the right search terms isn't trivial, so while I did not find such a discussion, it's possible I'm not
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I took my stab at them... I figured it would be best to throw down something for people to peruse, rather than leave them hanging as the nomination period comes to a close. At least I hit your main points, I thinkāif anything begs elaboration, let me know. There were a few toughies in there, but I
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I decided a while back to make my real name public. I still think this is a good idea. Unfortunately, in my user page history, there are some stupid jokes about me (and by me) that have now caused me some minor personal hassles. Of course, this is entirely my fault... but I'd like to clean it up.
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Semi-protection can help, but it catches some innocents in the net. Full protection is even worse. I'm not saying it isn't warranted, but it does have unfortunate consequences to many innocent parties. Blocks can be targeted to the offending parties, but may be overkill if the dispute is merely
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participated in on his talk) should be answered first, or even at all . I would remind you that this is the third year these questions have been used, (I note that you seem to have been relatively inactive since this year) and that they have been analysed by others in the past. Finally, if my
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Lar, may I suggest that the restrictions on quetsions are there for a reason, and that the candidates should give much higher priority to the questions on the official question pages. There is no harm in answering your questions; however my feeling is that your questions may distract them from
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I suspect the restrictions do not reflect true consensus, merely a temporary local consensus among the election volunteers, or worse, Tony1's personal view pushed through by force of personality. My point about your contribution history was to explain why you perhaps are not aware that these
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Just so you know, I don't have oversight so any revdel I do is still visible to other admins. If that's not far enough you may want to write to the oversighters and ask for more specific action. I've deleted the page and restored only the last revision. Advise of any questions or concerns.
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I answered most ofyour questions, just too many to do in one sitting. This means that I probably won't finish them until after THanksgiving. One point related to rights, I currently don't have any rights, but I voluntarily relinquished my adminship and could regain it without any
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Absolutely not. (it's a wiki!) ... thanks for letting me know and if you run into any snags, please holler. Glad to see you started one, we need more I think... In fact I was about 5 minutes away from popping over to your page and encouraging you to write a guide.
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OK, the gap is not big but it exists in that I would have preferred if you did not push the candidates to answer your questions but instead stressed that the priority needs to be given to quetsions on the official page (including the ones by
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I can usually tell when people pander to me, and it hardly ever works so no worries on that score. Thanks for letting me know, and more importantly, thanks for spending the time. I am not your only audience for those answers.
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It is a nice template. The approach I have taken is to get the username from where the template is used (as the template is almost always employed in userspace), but it could also be a parameter (such as "U"!).
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On the (probably slight) chance you haven't already seen it, just noting that I've now answered your two specific-to-me questions, as well as finished your general set. Regards,
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some of the questions on Monday, because I didn't think I'd properly hit all your points. No big changes, just more explicit rather than leaving it up to your imagination :P
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What would you like "mine" to link to, if anything? Or do you want "mine" to say "Lar's", orĀ ? I think I can fix it for you if you let me know what you have in mind. ++
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Very interested in what you have to say. I would like to know which questions you would like a more detailed answer for. I will be happy to provide it. Thank you.
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I'm not sure if it's allowed to request revision deletion on your own user page, but if it is, and you'd be prepared to do it, would you please consider deleting
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I'm not sure what you mean by "push". Perhaps you could clarify. You've come here with some concern or another and I'm still not clear what it really is. ++
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If you look at NW's use of (a copy of) the template he points to the entire questions talk page instead which may be a better generic approach. ++
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That would be fine by me. Feel free to copy them whenever you're ready, or I can, I guess, although it's your userspace. ++
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