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1366:"Had" implies that they have stopped dying, or that the ones who are currently dying are not honored by the day. E.G. "Those who had died in the war." "They had been there, but they are no longer there." "Have" implies that they continue to die, and continue to be honored. E.G. "Those who have died serving this country." "They have been there many times." "Have" is more open, "had" implies specificity. I'm sure there's a better way of explaining this, but I'm not exactly an expert in the minute details of English grammar. 2898: 2440: 3199: 3253: 2743: 2110: 1458: 1083: 491: 309: 619: 1051:. I excluded sources from those medias to keep objectivity on this article. I want you to read sources more specifically. Majority of sources is just telling the fact, not there own opinion. Lastly If you think I made a mistake or if you have other opinions on this issue please discuss on the talk page. I'm always open to your opinion. Thank you. Jeff6045 00:28, 22 September 2019 (UTC) 3139: 3406: 2518: 2359: 1427: 3506: 3340: 3087: 3005: 2663: 2051: 2023: 1633: 1282: 435: 1382:
verb "to have"). This is the single most commonly used tense in spoken and written English because it has multiple functions. The two most common are: 1) to indicate an action that started in the past and continues into the present, as "I have lived here for 20 years." 2) An action that occurred at an unspecified point in the past, as in "I have visited Italy."
1734:, and stop misusing the feature that has been pointed out to you now multiple times. Volvo isn't "controlled" by China, Volvo Cars has a parent company that is Chinese. A Swedish company having an American or Chinese parent company doesn't mean that the US or China "controls" the company. This has been discussed on the article talk page, and what you added was 1387:"Had died" is the past perfect tense (past of auxiliary "to have"). This tense is rarely understood and frequently misused. It is usually called "pluperfect" in other European languages and sometimes in English. It has only one correct use in English. It expresses the older of two actions when the newer one is also expressed. For example, "I 2195:
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to the movie." The older action "finished" requires the "had" to indicate that it did not happen at the same time as the newer action "went." Truth to tell, most English speakers don't know this anymore and as I'm sure you know, they are likely to use the simple past in both clauses, as "I finished
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I've taught college and university writing for nearly 50 years, and there is a definite answer to this. It's a simple matter of the definition of the two tenses in question and the rules for their uses. "Have died" is the present perfect tense ("present" indicating the present form of the auxiliary
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Your whataboutism about Zhu Yi has no bearing on the issue of Volvo being under Chinese control. Zhu renounced her US citizenship and her history and relations with the US are severed and in the past and have no relevance to her as figure skating performance post-renouncement. Volvo is currently
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All enterprise in the People's Republic of China is under the control of Beijing regardless of whether a commercial entity labels itself as private. A company based in the People's Republic of China that has control over one company based in another puts it under effect control of Beijing. Your
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Well my belief is when the personal attacks based on assumed nationality begin, the point has been made. But I can see why you would not be fond of someone noticing this tendency. Again, there's venues that deals with stuff like this, but I don't think we've reached that point (quite) yet.
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my dinner before I went to the movie." This is incorrect, but it's become so common that it's killing off the dear old past perfect tense - too bad, because as you can see in the correct sentence with the bolding, it can be very useful.
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Whataboutism about Albert Einstein isn't very convincing when we have these two clear examples of you on one hand downplaying foreign influence on a Chinese person, and on the other overstating Chinese influence on a foreign company.
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So in our article and as you can see in the passage above about present perfect, the correct grammar would be to write "have died" as the article currently does. The grammar that necessitates the use of "have" is rock solid. Regards,
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Obviously a pro-China POV, removing that an American born athlete is American born to imply she is only Chinese, claiming a foreign company is actually controlled by "Beijing ". This looks like you are editing with a certain bias.
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Incorrect. Also Albert Einstein was a naturalized American but his article's lead sentence of being American was removed. Does that mean the editors of that article have an anti-American sentiment? Get over yourself.
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The article is about its use in English, because yes, its derivation is from Spanish, but now it also exists in English and this is English Knowledge. Again, refrain from editing the lead until the Rfc is satisfied.
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I'll be waiting to see if you're going to follow through & begin decapitalizing the intros of the other British monarchs. PS: You'll have a lot of fun, when you start decapitalizing at
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Please stop adding the definite article in front of company titles, if they're not referred to that commonly, then it doesn't belong there. You might want to look at
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think will help a lot. Additionally, your edit note referred to the use of the term in foreign languages, but this is after all English wikipedia, so no. Regards,
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under control of Beijing as of right now whether you believe or like it or not. Just swallow your Swedish pride and accept reality.
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Still misusing the minor edit feature over two years later, very inappropriate when claiming Volvo is "Chinese-controlled".
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