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WTF? You asked me to find a "reliable source" to back up my claim and I did..! Made the relevant changes, then without even acknowledging my new reliable source the other guy reverts it back. The other guy even reverted it back after another 3rd person made the changes! And he hasn't even been
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Starting a discussion is the correct course of action. Continuing to revert is not. No, I did not warn the other individual. Although, they had two reverts in 24 hours, that 24 time period passed by the time I came across the edit war. You had two reverts within 15 minutes of each other.
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