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Ganeshk & Fowler&fowler. These were later renominated by different editors. No objection was made by anyone present during the process on the grounds that Fowler&fowler was a foreign user or that his nominator Regentspark was a foreign editor (which in keeping with Knowledge (XXG)'s global participation was completely acceptable). The evaluation was down by a board of Indian Wikipedians so the language in the awarded barnstar was correct. Innuendo by MonaPisser only indicates the mischievous & xenophobic attitude of his/her & the much-vaunted "AGF" is conspicuously lacking here. As I said before, this is selective & malicious re-interpretation of events by User:MonaPisser and I do not intend to reply to this User's allegations anymore.
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Bengali Knowledge (XXG) should do ect. Is that disruptive? I'll leave that to someone else to decide. The only thing I will say is that it's not helpful.
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519:). Those nominations considered valid were evaluated. At the end of the discussion, User:Bhadani was given an award as the most noteworthy editor on WikiProject India on English Knowledge (XXG). The jury decided that while only one award was to be given, all nominees were to be honoured with barnstars. In my capacity as volunteer coordinator of WikiProject India, I placed a barnstar on the pages of all the eleven users who came up for consideration. The same day, I placed the results on
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Hi. Thanks for your message, which I have read as carefully as I can. In the past 48 hours I have received lots of advice and policy prescriptions from well meaning people, and also a block. This is all very overwhelming for me as the other Wikis where I edit extensively, usually under my own name
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and seen that he's been on break since May. It's pointless to ask him questions at this time. (Asking aggressive or personal questions is never appropriate.) Your note on NeilN's page is inappropriate too, by the way; please try to adopt a more collegial tone on this site.
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The user Ashlin who awarded that Barnstar felt he deserved it. That's simply enough. Your personal feelings on it don't mean anything. Your removal and repeated removal(that got you banned) is simply disruptive.
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Please assume AGF. My expertise is on an INDIC language Wiki, and my inexperience with Mediawiki is quite apparent. I have no grievance with Mr.Fowler - I only object to his undeserved barnstar.
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