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Layered Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence". This name could also be used as a title. The unclarity here for me is that there are a lot of programs and I am not sure whether this name encapsulates all; perhaps it's even better to talk of a "NATO missile defence system architecture". It's more a bringing together of national capabilities (possibly also from non-NATO states) and combining them with an overarching NATO system to form one architecture. Using google as a reference, "NATO missile defence system" is slightly more popular than the "Active Layered Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence". PS: The spelling "defence" and "organisation" should be preferred in this case, as NATO's working language is (besides French) British English - meaning that all NATO names and documents are in BrE. As a consequence, we adhere to the British spelling in all NATO articles.
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the discussion started in the talk page. Sorry about this. But now, I propose you to leave it as is while the discussion happens. It isn't that important as in any case the title and the intro are refering to the federation, it seems more important to avoid an edit war. But I agree he sort of started
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Patrickneil, I understand that the weight in the history section was perhaps a bit heavy (the same can be said, in hindsight, from France's temporary withdrawal from NATO's command structure). At the same time, missile defense is clearly different from a "military operation", or it at least does
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Sure, just tell me where specifically you could use a hand. I am not a NATO expert though - my primary interests and knowledge are more related to linguistics. I think "NATO missile defence system" is a good title. NATO already has limited missile defence capabilities, so the title is appropriate
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I do assume good faith. I do see an anti-France/Europe bias, but at the same time, I do get the point that the French response may ultimately not bear long term consequences and hence just be a footnote to the foundation of potentially a majorly important military alliance. That's a lot of "ifs"
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I reverted your edit although I agree with what you say, but I think you should refrain doing this, as it doesn't have much sense as long as the title and the intro are saying something else. There is no urgency, let's not start an edit war and talk like adults in the talk page ;-) I have put a
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