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A string of twenty-one (21) of your recent edits showed up recently on my watchlist minus edit summaries. I am now faced with the unenviable choice of either ignoring my watchlist, or of painstakingly wading through the Edit histories of 21 articles. In the former case, the purpose of my watchlist is
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In addition I've been adding diacritics, correcting unbalanced parentheses, fixing the sort keys for the categories, etc. The reader who wants a link to the full set of rulers for a particular state can find that link in the article for the specific ruler or the specific state that they're interested
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The french language article also mentions this, unfortunatelly without going into any detail (thought I'd have added that back when I was active on the various wikipedias). I can't read any of our other articles about the county so can't say what state they are in. Anyhow, I will take a look at two
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Namur was erected as a marquisat (margraviat, two sinonimous terms at that time) for Baldwin IV of Hainaut, though before this could be completed Baldwin had died and the large marquisat (Namur, Laroche and Durbuy, probably also Luxembourg and Hainaut, but I'd have to look that up) intended for him
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According to someone who knows a lot more about computers, probably this happened. Due to some strange error in Explorer the menubar I mentioned was painted in backgroundcolor. I experienced this before, but the trouble is that you don't realize it when it happens the first time you look at a site.
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That WikiProject has been tagged inactive since 2008 (and it still recommends linking the years: I agree with you that they'd be better not linked), so there'd be little point in starting a discussion there. (And there doesn't seem to have been any discussion about the format anyway.) The articles
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seem to treat the terms at different periods in time. Or to be exact, the marquis article seems to deal with the modern, particularly british context, while the margrave article looks at the historical context. And yes, margrave means count of a march (border), a very specific type of count. Note,
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Your comparison with removing years or the state name makes no sense because in removing the title, where the state name already implies it, I'm not taking anything away that isn't readily available; the state name and the years are essential to the stated purpose of these lists so of course they
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I expect there are some cases where the link to the person doesn't exist but the link to the title does (but I haven't come across any). A good approach to that might be to create redirects from the person's name to the generic article about their title; this would provide the reader with some
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I added the tidpit about Sallows. I assume you were referring to the expedition sent to Spitsbergen in 1612? As that was the only year I know of where they had to use an English pilot. I'd like to know, in particular, where you obtained the information on the five French Basques used for the
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Can you articulate more at the AFD on why to keep the article, your remarks are being disregarded because they were so short ... AT another AFD the same remark was ignored and the article deleted, even though you voted to keep, the admin person disregarded your tersely written comments.
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Hadn't seen your comment on the coats of arms, thanks. I will probably just add some material to the county of Namur article for the time period from Henry I to the arrival of the Dampierre dynasty. I plan to stay wiki-retired, but I still contribute on
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expedition? I had only known of Basque whalers being used for the 1613 expedition to Spitsbergen (in which they shipped a dozen), but I thought they didn't have any on their first hunting expedition to Spitsbergen. Could you clear this up?
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Hi Omega, how is the article going? Just a thought...I've noticed on your edits on Martin Schenck (and others) that you've not completed an edit summary. Just a brief description on that line saying what you did would be helpful.
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negated; in the latter, I waste my time in an unenjoyable dull task that may be unnecessary. Either case can be perceived by me as rudeness, but I shall take it on good faith this time that it is somehow a case of simple error.
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must be present. A question that needs to be considered is 'how might any reader actually use these lists?' - how would they get to one of these lists and, and what would they be looking for? To take a year at random, look at
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Apologies accepted. I did check the first couple of your edits without summaries, and detected no malign intent. I am sensitive to edit summaries due to a recent rash of adolescent vandalism on articles on my Watchlist.
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Thanks, Omegastar! Actually, i created that article in a very short notice, so i may imagine that is was bad. Sorry, i usually check my articles several times, but that one sliped me... :) All best, and thanks again!
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Why not check off that little box for "This is a minor edit" and let it go at that, with no commentary needed? That lessens your burden as you go about your useful little editing chore. It's just one little click.
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version of the article, (the version that you actually translated). Not to the article in general. (The article might have been totally altered.) Please refer to the version that was translated. See
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Predecessor and successor are always available on the ruler's page, which will also link to the article about the role/title itself, which will give the entire history of the holders of the title.
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seem rather neglected to me - just look at the wildly inconsistent state of the category keys, which I've been slowly sorting out. I've now almost reached the point where someone looking at
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I understand. I translated the article from the dutch wikipedia. It seems the person who created the dutch article did use a credible source, ill ask him to confirm it and then ill add it.
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And I want to end by thanking you for undertaking that little chore. Small improvements in existing articles can accrue into great improvements, and I admire your diligence in correction.
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was split and his son only received a remnant of the original county as his marquisat. So your move of that page was not entirely correct, on the other hand, the county is better known.--
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Hi. Nice work on the page you just created. I never got around to making a page for the Noordsche Compagnie. I was wondering if you could tell me what your source was for the following:
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This is just to say a big thank you for you nice comment on my page. I appreciate it when other editors like yourself, give a keep it up note here and there. Will continue to expand
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The title of these articles explicitly state that they are lists of rulers in a given year, and that's what these lists now provide, in a clearer and shorter format.
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and improve my English where necessary. I am in trouble with some wikipedians from downunder and need your help in the first half of the article (till 1741).
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Hi Omegastar, thanks for the compliment. One thing; I'm trying to get all the Ó's back under the O listing for County Galway, but not sure how. Help?
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Hi again. No, what I want to know is how to merge all the Ó's into the O section. Or if it should be done at all. I do not want to change Ó to O.
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There is no issue about multiple roles - I'm only condensing as described above, so no confusion about regents etc, could arise.
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Its not that much, but he wasnt that remarkable ^^ Ill remember to put something in the edit summary for my future edits.
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Be Bold!
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Meet other new users
Learn from others
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Contribute, Contribute, Contribute!
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