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you see a bad law, break it" although it's not saying the rules are bad, just that in some cases within certain contexts they may not apply. I see it says there is no common sense. I think being polite is common sense but no that's not a rule anyway so ignore all rules wouldn't apply. I do think if I break a rule, please tell me what one, Knowledge (XXG) is good in that it's relatively easy to get links to specific edits and comments.
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Oh ok. I think I know what you mean. First thing I learned in wikipedia is if it's in here, it needs a reliable source. Also is it notable? If it's notable, how much weight to give it? How is all this decided if people disagree? Talk it out on the talk page, stay on topic, and try to get a consensus.
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Whoa. Ok. This is why I thought you were mad. You do see why if I ask you what the problem is, and you don't say what it is, it's hard to assume good faith? I don't want to disrupt. Ok no more questions. But please see where I found a new source that's related to this
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Not a suicide pact ok but just good advice. If wrong, in what way? Being wrong is not the same as having an agenda. And if entirely sincere, that is opposite of having an agenda right? You had said "Atsme will, of course, reject my reading of her agenda." There is a lot of rude, unecessary insults
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I have been surfing around wikipedia clicking on links that spread out from where this whole controversy started. Lot of interesting debates and arguments going and I bet it won't end here. I think you're right that eventually overzealous folks will wither away. How could conflict of interest
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That's a lot of info, thanks. I can see where something politically related will have a lot of anger involved whether liberals or conservatives. I think Corbie was just having a bad day. It happens. I think Guy wanted me to see he has been here for a long time. I think it's still possible he
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Specifico thanks! So maybe the article should be unlocked for just a second to take that out? What about these other sources for the jekyl Island part of the article: "He has opposed the Federal Reserve since the 1960s, saying it constitutes a banking cartel and an instrument of war and
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misinterpreted the suicide pact thing though. And assumed bad faith on me by mistake. And specifico assumed bad faith by mistake here but then realized he was wrong so just told me to look at my hsitory. Hard to do if no one tells me what I did wrong so what should I be searching for?
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which Griffin advocates. Atsme is a lovely person and up to now I think a very good editor, but she has acknowledged that she tends to settle on an angle and write from that perspective, and in this case the angle is simply wrong, and she can't seem to let go of it.
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eventually be solved as a problem? I don't know. That wifone person who ran a school in India got trusted with years of good edits and being polite. What did him in was not lack of reliable sources, it's that he went too far being rude to people.
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policies. Which you apparently don't bother to read. People have spent their valuable time helping you when that time could have been spent improving the 'pedia. They do all this for you and then you come back and ask the
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