1613:. This issue is relevant since if this charge is correct, then that would mean that you're deliberately making claims of false, POV, flawed translations without even having read my sources, which would mean that you're slowing down the process of ameliorating this encyclopedia by putting void charges, which is why I keep bringing up this issue. In any case you still didn't answer either that issue or the other ones that outlined above. Regards. --
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1. "The hadiths declare rape of a free Muslim woman as zina" , so i want to ask, do you know the definition of "hadith" ? could you provide hadith based on this definition? fyi the Al-Muwatta in this case was not a hadith but a Fiqh by Malik, and where in this Fiqh it make a differentiation between a
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Therefore, the image cannot be used. Do not revert the edit again, it is an inaccurate image and doing so will result in my reporting you to administrators for excessive reverts and removing properly referenced material. Do not remove the work on Edict of
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Blasphemy and apostasy. Which are two seperate things. Some countries, such as Egypt do not have the death penalty. They have some penalty, but not death, your map here is inaccurate.
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4. The picture you restored, does not provide a picture of Muslim-majority countries in the Sahel, Western Africa, Central Asia, Turkey, Tunisia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia, Albania and Kosovo. All which are as Muslim, as much as Saudi Arabia or Iran. The picture doesn't not provide an accurate image of
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The edict of toleration removal might not have been you. I will withdraw that point. But the others still stand. They are not accusations. The map is using a misreference of pew research centre. By conflating two things. I made it clear in the edit section, and you still proceded to revert the
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for the wrong-doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on!
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No, no. Al-Muwatta is considered a hadith and also a sharia source in the Maliki school. It was mentioned in the article. I will check the article's edit history and revise where appropriate. For these issues, discuss it on the article's talk page. I will respond there, not here.
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Morocco, which is a liberal Muslim country, full of Western tourists, doesn't go around executing apostates. Pakistan, has death for Blasphemy but not for apostasy. The article is about apostasy, not blasphemy ergo, this map Library of Congress (2014)</ref: -->
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All of these elements makes your map inaccurate, which is why it has been replace. Your map incorrectly references the library of congress. The LoC makes it clear that Iran's law is unclear. You claim that Iran uses the death penalty. So the references are misused.
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Hello. Why did you revert my edits which included tons of references both primary and secondary for no reason? I'm waiting for explanations, either way, if you fail to provide one I'll contact a mod. You're clearly displaying biased behavior.
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1402:* Here you claimed that I made a wrong translation while ignoring the many requests I made to you so that you show why you think so. Two neutral editors have currently approved my translation.
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Blasphemy laws. As I have said, apostasy is not Blasphemy. This again is an inconsistency.
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Stop making up lies and ignoring objections, You never answered the following: (these are in the 2 articles (jizya and apos.) we're not even talking about Q.2:256)
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Do not deliberately misreference material. The picture is inaccurate, it conflates two different things, it will not be used on the apostasy in Islam article.
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provide fair use quote. The transfer process was not robust, but this is hardly the real issue if you want to participate in building wikipedia rather than
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