User talk:RexxS/Archive 14 - Knowledge (XXG)

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Diannaa's comments. Is there a rule that I have to drop what I'm doing (and I was working up another page which I haven't been able to return to since) to move a source from the article to bib? Could she not have done that? Of the other five points, most would have been easy to sort by a quick sortie to WorldCat to see what's what. That editors who work on these large pages are stuck with constant maintenance like a millstone is not something I realized when I wrote the page, but is something that will prevent me from writing other such pages, despite my content knowledge and expertise. Which is a shame. As for Ceoil - please bear in mind that spelling mistakes often have more than one cause. I can't put a leash on him, and won't. But I will ask him to tone it down a bit, if that helps.

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happening because it's a time to let people edit. Since July I've put through four FACs, and have had a very busy work schedule and just haven't gotten over to Hemingway to tidy. All that was missing were dates in a few of the refs, and some had been added by other editors and I had to track down the sources - some of that I'm still doing. Anyway, as the main contributor and the person with all the sources, I'd prefer to see these discussions taking place on my page or on the Hemingway talk pages, because people are getting the sequence of events wrong. Honestly I don't think it's right for you and Maunus to be talking about me, or anyone else for that matter, on a page where clearly responses are unwelcome. I'll ask the same thing of him. Thanks for your understanding.

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with as many as 30 to 40 sources it's much easier to keep track of the sources without the templates and to fix the degradations. It's also easy to copy sources from one page to another for subarticles when the same sources are used. If there were a way to render the harvard style without the use of the citations templates I'd be more of a fan. But I do dislike citation templates; formatting difficult sources is easier without templates in my view. Anyway, that's my take on it. I think Ceoil reacted badly to seeing the olive branch message summarily dismissed. Unfortunately there's not much I can do to restrain a hot-tempered Irishman, but he seems contrite.

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rebuffed, repeatedly. And I am very very tired of taking the blame for what essentially is a lack of communication and the inability to achieve consensus through discussion. Furthermore, if templated styles are to become the desired "house style" I'd think it would need more advertisement. I'm happy to comply, but I have some strong arguments against if any one were ever interested in listening to a person whose formatted long pages using both styles.

31: 766: 946:. My original interpretation was that a reference to a single article was listed as two difference references, with different reference names. I sorted all the refs by title, and I believe every title is unique. I reread your comment, and now think I'm not quite getting it. I realize it was some time ago you looked at this, but if you could give me an example, either real or hypothetical, it would help me search for problems.-- 503:(such as Baker 1981) weren't in use as references. Those sort of difficulties would qualify for me as "broken references", although I do accept that others are free to disagree with that phrase. If other editors had been unable to format the refs properly, then gnomes like Diannaa are just the people to find those problems and list those that they cannot fix themselves. I've read and re-read her opening post to 1882:

artistically. I prefer the table as I would like the reader to hit a scroll bar, not have the images jumble down the screen like a gallery (I use gallery like a poor man's table). Also I feel that the table keeps any rule mongers off my ass who think I'm doing something I shouldn't (think of gallery as just a pen at the end with a grab bag). And I loved how you had the borders and all in Painted turtle.

207:, it's difficult to make any progress, and my intemperate outburst from 2009 starting "No in fact it's not better than nothing ..." exemplifies my frustration. Anthony Appleyard is really nice guy whom I've met on several occasions at wiki-meetups, but we don't see eye-to-eye on some issues of sourcing. I do not believe in forcing an issue without first establishing clear consensus, so I've taken it to 511:"Diana, offer trivial complaints to sate sour grapes often? listed in the bib but is not referenced in the article. O for fuck sake. Get a life. Such moral superiority and arrogance from a person who has not interest or knowledge of the subject matter. You are the enemy, you are the problem; an admin who is now persuing an editor from bitterness over a seperate and equally trivial argument. Nice." 2406: 307:, you can be certain that nobody will be rushing to impose a "house style". Anyway, I've not said all that to give ammunition in a dispute, but to try to suggest that there's plenty of common ground if everybody can get onto it. Please do your best to encourage Ceoil to look for cooperation, not conflict. Regards, -- 920:, which, being a featured article, can be used as a nice club positive example if there's pushback. I'm still sorting out how I feel about a canonical ref naming convention, have taken a more eclectic approach so far, but will take a look at your suggestions and see if it works for me. I haven't looked closely at 2461:, although it's clearly a labour of love by the nominator, and visually, it works well. The real problem is that HTML and the table structure isn't amenable to sub-tables without a hack of some sort, and all too often screen readers lose out when a sighted editor creates a hack that looks ok to them. -- 249:

The citations that Diannaa objected to were the Harvard templates. It's much easier to handcraft the 200 than to put in templates. If they want to put back the Harvard templates it's fine with me - I've opened a thread on the talkpage to that effect. I did try to open discussion with Alarbus and was

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Hi JFW, I've modified it slightly because the cause is always barotrauma, while AGE can also result simultaneously from the injury. The confusion is because AGE in divers is serious enough to have incidence data collected, while diving-related PTX seems much less likely to be reported as such. So we

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Thank you for your kind words. That's the great part of the featured content review processes – they are truly team efforts. Us reviewers all seem to complement each other well. We all have our own specialities and can add our unique insights. You've done that with your accessibility comments, which

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You probably already know, but always be careful in citing YouTube because the content there is all too often uploaded without the copyright holder's permission, and we are prohibited from linking to external content which violates copyright. In this case, it would be reasonable to assume that it is

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Thanks Nikkimaria - I've played with those. I find that a lot of these things work well for books, but when journal articles or book chapters or multiple titles written by the same author in the same year, it's gets a little complicated. I really have thought about this and have found that free-hand

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That looks ok on my wide-screen monitor, but becomes crappier as I reduce the browser width. It would be a difficult sell until a lot more folks move to HD screens, because most people are going to be reluctant to trade-off visuals for accessibility and usability. I'd recommend small gains that are

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On the other hand, although row headers would be of much less use in a table where information is split across two rows, I think that marking up column headers for scope="col" ought to be done, because we should be encouraging good practice, even when we can't produce perfectly accessible tables at

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As the IP user doesn't seem to have any criticism, besides his distaste for the content, I second Nohomers48's reply. The sources used are completely adequate for the claims made in the article in question, e.g. YouTube is a primary source in the claim that Gaede's ideas have been proliferated via.

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or equivalent tags to achieve the same result without the use of templates. Disclaimer: I'm not encouraging the wholescale removal of templates from articles, just suggesting ways of reducing the load time when editing articles with hundreds of templates in them! For what it's worth, the deployment

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because of load time issues. I think there are arguments for using both. I don't have an issue formatting them; each is easy to me. The problem as I see it is that they require citation templates for the targets - and I was really shocked to find how badly those had degraded on Hemingway. On a page

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be the sort of thing that Knowledge (XXG) loses a valuable editor over - or any editor for that matter. You have the potential to make a lot more contributions, and hopefully to actually enjoy doing that. If you're not enjoying it, take a short break, and come back refreshed. The articles will all

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features to me. But look, I don't want to rehash that argument. I think it's settled - you ought to have the main say in deciding whether an article employs templates or not if you're the principal editor. Nevertheless, I expect you are willing to listen to other views and weigh them for what they

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to mark them up, there's an example for you. To be honest, the visually impaired gain very little from headers in short tables, although it's good practice to mark them up properly anyway. If you decide to create one large table for all the years, then the headers would become much more valuable.

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Hi Crisco - I've made some edits to the table (hope that's ok) and left edit summaries for each step, so you can go through the diffs to see what I did. Please feel free to chop, change, revert what I did, as it's only meant to be illustrative. At least you can see how the ideas of table caption,

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I'm really sorry I had to mention you, even obliquely, on a page where you couldn't join in. I sincerely hope I did not mischaracterise you in any of my comments there, so please tell me if I did. I trust you understand though, that I was only posting in reaction to Maunus' distortion of reality

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Well, you've used both templates and raw cites (as have I), but I don't find much difference in ease of writing "{{Harvnb|Reynolds|2000|p=17}}" or "Reynolds (2000), 17–18". What I do find is that with templated cites, I can get error messages alerting me if I make a mistake, and anyone can use a

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suggested I ask for your assistance with the layout of the two physical and chemical properties tables. I'm not completely sure what TCO had in mind but am open to any suggestions. The column widths are set in ems to accomodate different font sizes. I was looking at the article last night on an

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Oh you mean the poorly designed options available in the current templates, which force serious users to try and bend things, unsatisfactorily, to try make them work a bit better. Anyway, I note the miserable threat. I'm here to write an encyclopaedia, and I really don't want to waste more time

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Indeed, I've always been amazed that anyone would think that writing out an entire reference in the middle of the article content was a "good idea". I try to use sensible names for the named references: author_last_name-year-page is currently my favourite as it allows me to match up any Harvard

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I'll talk to him when I'm back. I've decided to take a break. I've been thinking about all of this, and it's ironic that it started with something to do with accessibility which I honestly have a great understanding of for a variety of reasons. I have fairly bad vision, had an unsuccessful eye

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A couple of things, and then I think we should let this go, but I appreciate your point-of-view. First, as you know, it spilled over from another page. Second, of the 10 points Diannaa raised, 5 were sources that other editors placed on the page - not placed there by myself. I felt attacked by

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Hi there. I'd promised that I would add some stuff about pneumothorax due to AGE, and I have relied on your recommendations on the talkpage. I have shortened it very slightly, because we have a main article on the wider subject of barotrauma. Would you mind having a quick look and correct any

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to Harvard referencing is breathtaking. Ceoil obviously looks to you as a role-model and friend. I really hope you can somehow explain to him that the only enemies on Knowledge (XXG) are the ones we create in our own minds – we have all taken up this hobby with the same purpose of building an

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If you are feeling "in the mood", love to have you look at the three other galleries in Fluorine and table-ize them (sections Physical properties, On Earth, and Metal halides). Maybe also the one in Nonmetal halides, although I think that works decent as is. Whatever you think makes sense,

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Ouch, Rex, the nerdspeak is defeating me again. Just look at the last section header in the TOC on my talk, would you? It doesn't lead to anything. And then there's the mystery category the page has been placed in. Two connected weirdnesses, possibly? I went to the category page and read the

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Just one other clarification. There were never any broken references on the Hemingway page. It gets a lot of traffic, despite the semi-protection. Since July there have been two Hemingway pages on the main page which pulls a lot into the biography and I tend not to bother to tend when that's

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issue. Nevertheless, it does disassociate the summary from the rest of the information relating to that book. It leaves a screen reader with only the option of sequentially reading the table, rather than allowing free navigation in any direction as a more accessible table would. I know I've

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Thank you both. I don't know how I got so stupid. Copypasting a whole article without a care in the world! I despair, I really do. Why archive in a hurry though? Are the templates still leaking something toxic? (I just archived the whole shootingmatch less than two weeks ago. I

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Comedians. I wonder if he was referring to me in the sense of "work-shy" or "unpiloted"? - or even "monotonic"? Can't say I'm terribly impressed with any of them, but then again, I'm far too mild to reply in kind. Pity we didn't get Famously to do the job in the first place.

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my replies and attempts to find common ground in discovering a policy by which we may guide out edits with on the talk page, but rather just reposting the same thing as if I had not replied: as you can see Though the page appears to have been cleaned by Nohomers48.

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Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I have no clue why the script won't work - I've tried, refreshed (I run Safari), restarted, but it's not running. It does look useful though. Regarding the templates, SlimVirgin removed over 200 harvard templates that I'd added from

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so that all of the information is presented on one row, allowing greater usability and accessibility, but that would sacrifice the present visual presentation, and would need considerable discussion with the relevant WikiProject(s) to "sell" the idea

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I can understand that the delegates are worried about the shortage of reviewers at FAR, and don't want to lose any. But I still don't understand how they can be so keen to placate and retain somebody that counterproductively belligerent. Perhaps the

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have led to widespread changes in how the tables in FLs are made. If you see anything worth commenting on at an FLC, please continue to do so; we need all the reviewers we can get. Thanks again, and I hope to continue seeing you around.

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and, try as I might, I just cannot see what was there that deserved such vitriolic responses. If you look through her contributions, it is exactly the sort of cleanup she does all the time, and nobody deserves responses such as these:

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As my own expertise lies in the fields of electronics, IT and scuba diving, I've seen extraordinarily rapid changes over the last 50 years, so I do take your point about rapidly changing knowledge. A solution has been found at

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Maybe someone who lives in or near Manchester can hold on to it and I can see them sometime to collect it. Or maybe someone can post it to me: if you let me know who has actually got it I can email my address to them.

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referencing quickly as well. The only caution I'd urge is that some editors consider the upgrade to LDRs to be a "change of style" and therefore a forbidden change (while in fact they are merely a variation of the

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as far as I can tell. That ref looks like a fine source to base an article on, and I'm tempted to start one off. I've spent all my limited wiki-time on tables and accessibility lately, but when I've finished the

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It needs to move down to the traumatic section. Barotrauma in diving is the same as the over expansion injury from a vent. The difference is that in diving the gas volume comes from the change in pressure

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template with three parameters caused the "Category:Knowledge (XXG) shortcut box first parameter needs fixing", so I've nowiki'ed that as well. If I were you, I'd archive that section as soon as possible.

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parameter in the citation template (as "harv" or "CITEREFBrubakkNeuman2003" explicitly) to create an anchor (i.e. a target for the link). However, you can write your hand-coded reference and enclose it in

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column and row headers, and css styling can be implemented, even if you want to use them in a different way. Hope that helps, and please feel free to ping me if I can do anything else for you. Cheers, --

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section (usually a sign that a bot has consolidated duplicates), whereas named refs should never be in that section, only the list of full references. All fixed now, so nothing to worry about :) Cheers,

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Having articles in your talk page is a magnet for bots and admin wannabees to come along and "clean things up" blindly. You'll have your page nominated for deletion before you know what's happened.

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FAC. I will try to include some more diving-related content before I am personally satisfied. Today I discovered that horses have an incomplete mediastinum with communicating thoracic cavities!

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section in that diff, you'll see no.178 is "Baker, pp. 101–121" which doesn't link to a target because the year is missing (could be 1969, 1972, or 1981). It would seem that some of the

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can only estimate the incidence of PTX among divers by examining the AGE reports, which is why Bennett & Elliott discuss their epidemiology together. The Knowledge (XXG) article

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Truthfully, that sort of rhetoric (complete with elementary grammatical and spelling errors) only serves to drive divisions between editors - and the ignorance of the importance of

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Thanks a lot, both of you. I'm not very strong on WikiTables (I try and avoid them, for the same reason), but sometimes... Anyhow, thanks. I'll take a look at those links later.

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will remove massive numbers of templates from navboxes, and do more for editing page load-time for most articles than us struggling to prune citation templates. Happy editing! --

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It's really just a way of making absolutely sure that screen readers for the visually impaired identify the column and row headers in a table. There's a good description of how

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perspective particularly? Most of the sports lists I see now use row and col scopes etc, these "episode" lists don't. Is it a problem? Could they be improved? Many thanks,

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during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.

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Hehe - at least Dabomb understood and it turned out right in the end. Reelin is an excellent advert for LDR, and I'm jealous as that's a much bigger job than my biggest (

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I'm sorry your attempt to offer an olive branch to Alarbus was rebuffed. He's just as zealous about proper structure as you are about good prose, and had just spent time

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Thanks for taking the time to drop by. I'm really pleased that the article has settled down now; it's strange sometimes that you get editors who just won't communicate.

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I'll revisit the article and the FLC anyway after others have had a chance to comment because I suspect that there may be pressure to provide a single list. Cheers --

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don't understand. Help, please? No great urgency, for once (as long as you don't mind listening to my desolate sobs over the desecration of my page). Happy new year!

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section as I think some extraneous duplicate named refs are in there? I'm not sure, so I won't mess, but I'm guessing a bot probably consolidated a few dupes. --

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there; I didn't raise the subject and only replied to correct his errors. I'm afraid I have to differ with your assessment of the state of the references at

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of a given style). I've found it's not worth having an argument about, as there's always another article where improvements will be welcomed! Regards --

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As for templates, I'm very aware of the problems of editing pages with multiple citation templates, and I sympathise. I only have one FA to my name,

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would cope with those tables with no problems, but he's probably quite used to hearing them on Knowledge (XXG) - I'd have to ask him to be certain.

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Looks good. I just want a top title, not individual captions. Thanks. You are a whizz and I appreciate knowing who the heavies are to go to!!

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Looks good--I will use that version! It is not in article text order any more, but I think the balance is better (and the text is all close).

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Thanks for being a "white knight". I agree with your comments and have responded on the Adoption category Talk page. Enjoy your New Year.

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I've added images, and replied to your other comments. Mind explaining the whole span=col thing, please? I'm not really that keen on it.

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But that's it, I believe: the twin principles of collaboration and proper sourcing, the basis for making Knowledge (XXG) work. Cheers --

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Hehe - sorry James, that was a joint effort using Julia's mobile and was brief. It turns out that Harry had been sitting on your hat.

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Rightyho, I'll need to digest that and see if we can roll out the suggestions. Thanks, as ever, for your time and enthusiasm RexxS.

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Okay. I thought that one was meant for use with freehand, but I've never actually used it myself, so I'll defer to your experience.

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girlfriend, Solitaire runs off with Bond. Solitaire is captured by Mr. Big, but Bond saves her and blows up Mr. Big's yacht with a

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and give me some input on how to best meet the accessibility requirement for Featured List? I've tried fixing the table but...

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reviews I'm in the middle of, I really must get back to doing some scuba work. If I'm late, you can start without me, Gene! --

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Hi Rexx, as you're an experienced teacher who has done Knowledge (XXG) training, I'd be very interested in your feedback on

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Hi RexxS, happy new year! Been a while since I've come cap in hand to you, but I was wondering if you could take a look at

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Hi TRM, Happy New Year to you too! You know I'm only too happy to pitch in where I can help, and I'm grateful you've asked.

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Copy of my note to Bishonen: Dear RexxS, It's OK, I'm feeling better, I'm back. Mightily cheered and surprised to receive

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spy operations in America. Bond's friend and CIA ally, Felix Leiter, is captured and fed to a shark whilst Mr. Big's

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FAR is uncharacteristic or something, I haven't studied the OP's other nominations. Let's hope so, because potential

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Thanks a lot. I must remember to find ways of getting back at Harry, like trying to get him desysopped or something.

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to be strongly preferred for any such articles at FLC, but it's the sort of thing we ought to seek consensus for.

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encyclopedia "in an atmosphere of collegiality, camaraderie, and mutual respect among contributors." Regards, --

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Apologies, I intended to look at this today, but other stuff got in the way. I promise I'll look tomorrow. --

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street brawling with you Alarbus. I apologise for posting in your talk page. That was very silly of me. --

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easy like the column headers to start with. That's before we even start looking at things like "List of (

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introduced a concept of "degree of accessibility" there, but there's no other way of putting it; I think

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that's messing it up. The see also section and template that added the category are from that. Regards,

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for outside opinion. Hopefully that will help us towards a resolution. By the way, here's a tip: if you

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was an interesting take for all of sports with the refs provided on talk for controversy in diving med.

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Oh good, I was worried I was either missing something or not understanding. Glad it was cleaned up.--

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the author who is uploading his own content, so it shouldn't present a problem. Happy editing! --

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Hi Peter, my son is an avid xkcd reader, so he proudly showed that to me yesterday <grin/: -->

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just after we'd discussed it. The named refs were like this: <ref name="pmid18319075"/: -->

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That's a tough one. I've left some comments at the review, but to be frank, it doesn't meet

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present. This ought to be done in the table headers and reflected in the documentation at

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Hah, I second that idea! Nice to see you both yesterday, hope you had good journeys home.

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Thanks Buggie. You hatted a chunk of stuff, chère, but inside it was a level two heading

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Christbaumschmuck an einer Nordmanntanne (fotografiert in Baden-Wurttemberg, Deutschland)

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still be here. If you still have problems with scripts then, I'd be happy to go through

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Knowledge (XXG):Centralized discussion/Citation discussion#Demo of specific proposal

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I would like to convert this to more like a table like you did for the turtles in

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surgery last year, which combined with severe astigmatism when letters look like

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talking to Kafka Liz on that subject when Ceoil came along and called him a prick

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Hi RexxS, You might find this webcomic amusing in context of recent discussions.

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Ok, we'll just get him elected to ArbCom next year - that's a far worse fate. --

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Thanks! Hold on to it for now, please, and I'll get back to you about it.

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Easy to change around - throw another pic in and I'll size it for you. --

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mistakes I might have made? It's been added to "secondary causes".

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You're just asking me to revisit your poorly designed templates.

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Thanks for attempting to assist me with the Bill Gaede article.

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